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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
November 09 2012 17:52 GMT
#901
Ah, that's interesting. Well, what are you gonna do right. He *did* have to spend points on vet, too. I was hoping he'd get sloppy and not do that so I could just shoot him and end it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:59 GMT
#902
Votesteal costs 3000 for me (remember the completely imbalanced setup? For example, ##earn double points gains H1 and BH a free extra vet or mirror power, it earns me 1/6 of a vet or mirror power). I was planning on vote stealing and I would have had enough if we'd gotten 1000 on the last day, but the troll $100 game fucked me up.

If I had the votesteal I would have won straight up, no need for these draw shenanigans.

@BH yeah I wasn't sure about asking that but I was flipping out in the scum QT when I found out about your ridiculous guaranteed day-DT check and the possibility that H1 could also use it.
Also I told you I had vet, I bought it day 2 and it stays until it gets used up.

@hopeless - wtf are you talking about, "town should have won" - first, the sheer size of the mod actions in your favor was ludicrous and I still managed to get to lylo, and second I still could have won straight up if I could've persuaded BH to vote keirathi (or keirathi to vote BH, but keirathi already knew I was scum from talking to someone outside the game so that wouldn't have worked).
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
November 09 2012 18:01 GMT
#903
On November 10 2012 02:47 Blazinghand wrote:
You could just RB+Shoot us or double-shoot us if we pulled a stunt like that right


RB doesn't affect the vet ability if I remember correctly.
Also if you have mirror it wouldn't have any effect right? The RB is done back at scum who are RBed and can't shoot you.

Again, yes we could double-shoot you but:
1-We wouldn't know if you had enough points to get vet status..since remember we needed 1500 points to do so and had no idea it costed 500 instead for you guys
2-If you get mirror then we suicide into you basically. We can double-stack 1 of you guys, but in that case one of us dies as well and there's still another confirmed super invincible townie left, and since we have 1 less scum we can never use 2 KP again basically (and if nobody gives us points we could never afford the 3750 points for a new KP either)


Also you guys could get a RB as well (you could get like 3-4 RB if you wanted) and RB who you think is scum who will give out the scum kills.

Wait.....#involve only costs 500?
Why didn't both of you use involve on D2 for instance? You either confirm scum or get 2000 instead which you can use to use #involve again on D3 like 4 times (both of you each) to basically out the whole scumteam. Or was it only one-shot?


Also double points was only 250? Like....here:
On N1 both of you:
-Use 500 to buy vet
-Use 500 to buy 2 double points
-As soon as D2 starts both of you use 2 double points

Then you'd get four times as many points! Both of you would get 4000 points in the D2 game and with 8000 points you can do whatever the fuck you want!


Is it me or did BH and H1 like severely underperformed with their powers? At least considering all the possibilities they could have gotten.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:01 GMT
#904
I already had purchased the extra KP on the night before, but I decided at the last minute not to use it

an extra KP cost me 3750 points

like, this game was incredibly hard for scum to win IMO even without losing three KP night one and having the most suspicious townie get modkilled day2.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 09 2012 18:02 GMT
#905
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:03 GMT
#906
On November 10 2012 03:01 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 02:47 Blazinghand wrote:
You could just RB+Shoot us or double-shoot us if we pulled a stunt like that right


RB doesn't affect the vet ability if I remember correctly.
Also if you have mirror it wouldn't have any effect right? The RB is done back at scum who are RBed and can't shoot you.

Again, yes we could double-shoot you but:
1-We wouldn't know if you had enough points to get vet status..since remember we needed 1500 points to do so and had no idea it costed 500 instead for you guys
2-If you get mirror then we suicide into you basically. We can double-stack 1 of you guys, but in that case one of us dies as well and there's still another confirmed super invincible townie left, and since we have 1 less scum we can never use 2 KP again basically (and if nobody gives us points we could never afford the 3750 points for a new KP either)


Also you guys could get a RB as well (you could get like 3-4 RB if you wanted) and RB who you think is scum who will give out the scum kills.

Wait.....#involve only costs 500?
Why didn't both of you use involve on D2 for instance? You either confirm scum or get 2000 instead which you can use to use #involve again on D3 like 4 times (both of you each) to basically out the whole scumteam. Or was it only one-shot?


Also double points was only 250? Like....here:
On N1 both of you:
-Use 500 to buy vet
-Use 500 to buy 2 double points
-As soon as D2 starts both of you use 2 double points

Then you'd get four times as many points! Both of you would get 4000 points in the D2 game and with 8000 points you can do whatever the fuck you want!


Is it me or did BH and H1 like severely underperformed with their powers? At least considering all the possibilities they could have gotten.


If I hadn't claimed out of the gate and started getting people to give me points, we would have been uberfucked instead of just superfucked like we actually were.

BIG PLAYS
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 09 2012 18:03 GMT
#907
day powers were 1-shot per day per power.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
November 09 2012 18:04 GMT
#908
There were triggers that I had in place, when townies spent or received a certain amount of points, drew would get mad and stop giving out points, or give them to people watching at home, or give them only to the band.

Also, I RNG'd what game to play each day, it just happened that we never hit a game that involved the buzzer. If we had, each audience member could spend 1000 points to hit the buzzer.
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
November 09 2012 18:05 GMT
#909
On November 10 2012 03:03 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:01 gonzaw wrote:
On November 10 2012 02:47 Blazinghand wrote:
You could just RB+Shoot us or double-shoot us if we pulled a stunt like that right


RB doesn't affect the vet ability if I remember correctly.
Also if you have mirror it wouldn't have any effect right? The RB is done back at scum who are RBed and can't shoot you.

Again, yes we could double-shoot you but:
1-We wouldn't know if you had enough points to get vet status..since remember we needed 1500 points to do so and had no idea it costed 500 instead for you guys
2-If you get mirror then we suicide into you basically. We can double-stack 1 of you guys, but in that case one of us dies as well and there's still another confirmed super invincible townie left, and since we have 1 less scum we can never use 2 KP again basically (and if nobody gives us points we could never afford the 3750 points for a new KP either)


Also you guys could get a RB as well (you could get like 3-4 RB if you wanted) and RB who you think is scum who will give out the scum kills.

Wait.....#involve only costs 500?
Why didn't both of you use involve on D2 for instance? You either confirm scum or get 2000 instead which you can use to use #involve again on D3 like 4 times (both of you each) to basically out the whole scumteam. Or was it only one-shot?


Also double points was only 250? Like....here:
On N1 both of you:
-Use 500 to buy vet
-Use 500 to buy 2 double points
-As soon as D2 starts both of you use 2 double points

Then you'd get four times as many points! Both of you would get 4000 points in the D2 game and with 8000 points you can do whatever the fuck you want!


Is it me or did BH and H1 like severely underperformed with their powers? At least considering all the possibilities they could have gotten.


If I hadn't claimed out of the gate and started getting people to give me points, we would have been uberfucked instead of just superfucked like we actually were.

BIG PLAYS



Yeah...but what if BH and H1 said "oh wait we are confirmed town and performers as well, give us points instead".
People would surely give points to them instead.


Also yeah, this "big play" from you is what basically made us (well you ) survive this long.


Damn it I wish I was a performer in this game, I would have tried to get like 10000000 points on D2 and like start a fucking war with all the shit I could buy.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:06 GMT
#910
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
November 09 2012 18:06 GMT
#911
Man whatever wacky schemes there might be with points or night actions, that's not really how I think. I shoot scum, and use vet if I have points for it, and lynch scum in the day. The ##involve felt pretty wacky and was mostly there to see if S&B was really town or not. I didn't actually send in the ##involve until after Crossfire got modkilled.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#912
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#913
Dude S&B you couldn't have convinced me at all, I was trying to shoot you, then I voted you and went afk. You were dead unless you stole a vote.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#914
On November 10 2012 03:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.

That came out harsh. Sorry.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#915
Well, his filter did look a bit townie, but in our Mason QT he scumslipped hard and revealed a scum mentality. He wasn't convincing me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
November 09 2012 18:08 GMT
#916
On November 10 2012 03:04 iGrok wrote:
There were triggers that I had in place, when townies spent or received a certain amount of points, drew would get mad and stop giving out points, or give them to people watching at home, or give them only to the band.

Also, I RNG'd what game to play each day, it just happened that we never hit a game that involved the buzzer. If we had, each audience member could spend 1000 points to hit the buzzer.



How many points?
Okay that may have stopped the "get 8000 points on D2" deal, but they still could spend at least 1000 points each night, therefore could get veteran+mirror each night and be invincible confirmed townies that can do whatever they want with the game
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:08 GMT
#917
On November 10 2012 03:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.


only because you read it knowing I was scum. confirmation bias.

otherwise presumably someone would have read it and called me scum? Maybe?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 09 2012 18:08 GMT
#918
PM's with iGrok regarding whether I would have shot Keir or held the points:

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes. I was going to try to steal points and the vote from SnB and doublevote him if I was alive.

I had the post written and waiting for the daypost.

Original Message From iGrok:
So you thought S&b was scum and keir was town?

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Hopeless1der:
No, I would not have shot Keir if I had the points.
I did the math and my conclusion was one of the following:

1) SnB would have either Double Stacked me (which i assume has happened)
Or
2) 4 alive, and he would try to steal votes and double vote to lynch me or BH then NK Keir for the win.

Original Message From iGrok:
I need to ask you a question, and you need to be completely honest with me. if you had been able to, would you have shot Keirathi last night?

Original Message From Hopeless1der:
Thank you. I'm good.

Original Message From iGrok:
1 power per type per day
activated when you ## in thread
you get how ever many they have if they have less than 500

Original Message From Hopeless1der:
Regarding Day Powers:

Must be declared in thread?
Activated immediately?

If I ##Steal 500 points: [player], what happens if that player does not have any points?
- Less than 500 points?
Can ##Steal be used multiple times?



Original Message From iGrok:
Welcome to Whose Line Is It Anyway, where everything's made up and the points DO matter! Thats right, as performers you know the true secret of the show - the points are actually tradeable 1-for-1 with Liquibucks! Feel free to spend your points however you'd like. You can purchase any of the powers below, or you can give your points to someone else!

Night-Only Powers
Veteran 500
Roleblock 250
KP 1250
Mason 500
Mirror 500
DT Check 1000
Track 500
3 Random Night Powers 1000

Day-Only Powers
##Steal 500 Points 500
##Steal Vote 1000
##Buzzer* 750
##Earn Double Points 250
##Involve Audience* 500
3 Random Day Powers 1000

*Buzzer will hit the Buzzer on any Buzzer-based Games
*Involve the Audience is used ##Involve NAME, if that person is an audience member, you will receive double points for that game.

Feel free to ask any questions and buy powers at any time.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
November 09 2012 18:09 GMT
#919
On November 10 2012 03:08 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.


only because you read it knowing I was scum. confirmation bias.

otherwise presumably someone would have read it and called me scum? Maybe?


I shot you. Does that count? I voted you. That should also count. If you weren't stealing a vote, you were dead.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 09 2012 18:09 GMT
#920
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

I completely disagree with this point. BH and Keir were 100% committed to killing you before the Night ended.
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