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On November 10 2012 02:33 syllogism wrote:Blues should have realized earlier that there is no way the setup has 4 confirmed town super blues when there is even an anonymous point trading mechanic Also s&b's claimed actions here were rather hilarious http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16822226None of his many, many actions produced any results and he even claimed having visited both dead players, presumably because he was afraid of being tracked to them
They should have, but they didn't.
and yeah that claim post was a little bit ridiculous
I wasn't afraid of being tracked, I was just having a hard time coming up with a large enough sheer bulk of actions that I could claim without results after I found out that powers cost 1/3 as much for H1 and BH as they did for me
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iGrok, should I have been modkilled earlier for this quote?
On November 06 2012 12:22 Crossfire99 wrote:
World's worst holiday: Labor Day (idk what to put, idk if the weird ones count like earth day or flag day or...whatever)
Ok, I'm not blue, and I sent some points to strong both nights. Unfortunately I didn't crumb this. I'm not claiming how many points I sent to him yet because he should be able to figure out that I definitely sent him some points last night. I will say that I gave the same amount of points to strong each night. If he hasn't figured it out with this clue I have given him I will explicitly say how many points I gave him each night. I'm hoping that if we're lucky we will catch scum in a lie with all this point claiming.
I just saw Keirathi's post. Don't claim how many points you have left. Don't let scum know anything about what you can or cannot do. I agree with lynching one of the 3 of us: me, stutters, or keirathi, but I'm not sure about the vig plan. I have to think about it. Maybe scum has a vet power that they can activate with points. Interesting thing to note was that mementoss had no points when he died because we each only got 1000 points yesterday. I asked iGrok specifically about this and he said that mementoss had no points to be split amongst us who lynched him. This is what makes me think that scum have powers activated with points as well because I seriously doubt scum would give their points to someone who isn't scum.
World's worst tv show?
Also, for future reference, how should I go about revealing information that I acquired in Mod pm's? Should I ask the question in the thread, so you can answer it? Or is the information I receive never going to be public?
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Yeah.
Outing myself and Mementos at the end of D1 wouldn't have been that bad....if you know, we could have killed 3 townies on N1 (H1 didn't have vet protection on N1 since he gave points to BH right? So he would have died).
Also iGrok, I really want to know how you planned this game to play that doesn't end in town winning by a landslide.
Tell me what would have happened in this scenario:
H1 and BH claim Ryan and Colin as soon as N1 starts and claim they are confirmed town to each other and ask everybody to give points to them.
After they get like 6000 points from everybody, they convert them ALL to KP so they have like 5 vig shots to use on anybody they want and they obliterate scum on N1 if they have decent reads.
Or just ask everybody for points, buy vet+mirror and with the rest of the points buy KP.
If scum shoot them then scum kill themselves because of mirror, and if they didn't doublestack them they survive because of the vet shot
If scum don't shoot them, they proceed to lynch whoever they want on D2 (since they are confirmed town basically), and then again ask everybody for points on N2 to repeat the process
Because really, they could have gotten like 6000 points out of everybody and their abilities costed like 500 points each wtf?
I'd like to see the full list of what they could buy.
Like....yeah we were lucky S&B claimed first and neither BH nor H1 tried to get people to give them points instead
Had the reverse happened (which is what BH and H1 should have done imo) this game could have been over by D2 with BH/H1 using like 10000000 vig shots on everybody that's not them lol
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H1 did have vet protection n1, gonzaw. He used 500 for vet, and sent 250 to BH to use vig.
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Oh yeah not even mentioning what could have happened if we didn't lynch BKE on N1 and town had 3 super blue guys.
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oh yeah the game would probably also have been easier to win for me if crossfire hadn't been modkilled, or at least I think it would've because there would've been additional people to put blame on and it wouldn't have just been 1v1 me vs an actual VT.
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yeah lol they can both buy vet+mirror each night, just using the points they get themselves.
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yeah you know what fuck it I'm going to declare myself the winner of this game. no night actions N1 + modkill on the most suspicious townie + not giving points to the guy who probably would've shot the last VT = enough.
Self-declared Scum Victory!
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
Well at least I got gonzaw.
S&B you really had me fooled up until you made this post in our mason QT: i guess we should game out the possibilities. You mentioned something in-thread about godfathers and framers - do you have any idea how ##involving works if there's a godfather?
As soon as you made that post I decided to shoot you in the coming night. That post can only come from a scum mindset. It's too bad you had vet status or were NK-immune or whatever  it'd have been awesome to kill two scum. If only I also had enough points to RB you last night in addition to shooting you! Still, even with the slip you played well enough that you probably won if you could steal me and Keirathi's votes today (or even one vote, really). Good work.
BKEXE I'd have really liked to see a blue claim from you. I REALLY would like to know why you didn't claim.
Overall, I had lots of fun, good game everyone. Thanks to iGrok for hosting!
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On November 10 2012 02:42 Keirathi wrote:
H1 did have vet protection n1, gonzaw. He used 500 for vet, and sent 250 to BH to use vig.
Really?
I mean...everybody gets 1000 points in each game right? (besides the troll $100 game).
That's enough to buy a vet ability every single day. If they claim and become "confirmed town", then they effectively become invincible confirmed townies basically.
They would be unlynchable because they are confirmed town to each other (therefore could only be scum together), and they claimed 2 blue guys and were uncc'd, and there would be no way scum had 2 blue fake-claims like that and out themselves like that basically.
THey would be unkillable at night since they could get a vet ability every single cycle. Not only that but they'd have points to spare to buy mirror or other shit as well to make them even more unkillable at night or at least if they are killed they take one scum with them.
SO town could have had 2 confirmed invincible super townies on N1......or am I missing something?
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Can someone list the actions that the blues can buy? I have no idea about all this point stuff lol.
I actually don't know if me being modkilled helped or hurt town. If I survived that lynch and survived the night (which I feel I would have happened because I could have been mislynched the next day), I would have pushed you hard strong. I don't know if I would have gotten you lynched, but I would have known you were scum. Once stutters was lynched, there was no convincing me you weren't scum.
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http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/CiRTjbr4R3HTV
There were ways of countering audience giving hopeless1der and bhand all their points, but at this point it doesn't really matter. What really sucked was mementoss dying n1 and gonzaw getting outed. Scum should have had at least 1 extra kp, probably two, and gotten points from those kills.
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For the record, I had the following post waiting for the daypost:
##Vote Strongandbig
##Steal 500 Points: Strongandbig
##Steal Vote: Strongandbig
##Vote(Strongandbig): Strongandbig
Previewed in game thread
##Vote Strongandbig
##Vote (Strongandbig): Strongandbig
Previewed in Vote Thread
They were contingent on me receiving the points from SnB though.
iGrok essentially gave me a couple minutes to collect my thoughts.
He answered some questions regarding day powers (and forgot to send the points) and I replied
"OK, thanks, I'm good"
intending to carry out my above posts.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
You could just RB+Shoot us or double-shoot us if we pulled a stunt like that right
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
In any case I declare this draw a Blazinghand victory for pure sexiness, manliness, and general ballertude
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On November 10 2012 02:46 Blazinghand wrote:Well at least I got gonzaw. S&B you really had me fooled up until you made this post in our mason QT: Show nested quote +i guess we should game out the possibilities. You mentioned something in-thread about godfathers and framers - do you have any idea how ##involving works if there's a godfather? As soon as you made that post I decided to shoot you in the coming night. That post can only come from a scum mindset. It's too bad you had vet status or were NK-immune or whatever it'd have been awesome to kill two scum. If only I also had enough points to RB you last night in addition to shooting you! Still, even with the slip you played well enough that you probably won if you could steal me and Keirathi's votes today (or even one vote, really). Good work. BKEXE I'd have really liked to see a blue claim from you. I REALLY would like to know why you didn't claim. Overall, I had lots of fun, good game everyone. Thanks to iGrok for hosting!
SnB, did you have enough points to votesteal after taking me out? I think town should have won the game if you didnt.
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Night-Only Powers
Veteran 500
Roleblock 250
KP 1250
Mason 500
Mirror 500
DT Check 1000
Track 500
3 Random Night Powers 1000
Day-Only Powers
##Steal 500 Points 500
##Steal Vote 1000
##Buzzer* 750
##Earn Double Points 250
##Involve Audience* 500
3 Random Day Powers 1000
*Buzzer will hit the Buzzer on any Buzzer-based Games
*Involve the Audience is used ##Involve NAME, if that person is an audience member, you will receive double points for that game.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
I assume he did. All you need is one votesteal to win at that point.
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I don't think he did if he had to doublestack me. Its why I kept going on and on about "I did the math" bullshit.
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Its also why I kept insisting I wouldn't send in the hit if I didn't get the points, because if I got stacked, the points were not there to send to me..
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EPT
