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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 02 2012 06:14 GMT
#341
Justice is blind, Adam.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 07:07 GMT
#342
I will be more direct with you then if you insist on dodging.

You think me and Gonzaw scum, who is our third teammate?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 02 2012 07:27 GMT
#343
I don't know yet, and as a rule I don't draw associative tells between unflipped players. I'm serious, though, if you really think you've done a good job this game of proving yourself and contributing to the town, you have nothing to worry about.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 02 2012 07:29 GMT
#344
Actually, aside from your sniping at gonzaw and your extraordinarily gentle prod of Mementoss, I don't know what you think. I've given my town reads and my scum reads, yet you're here asking me for a third scum read and nobody in the thread knows what you think.

If you weren't you, but someone else trying to read your filter, you'd be like "damn this Adam guy is scum" but of course, you're you so instead you're like "I am scum lololooooo"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#345
And as I have said, if you would like my opinion on a specific player, then simply ask. I do not post my thoughts for the sake of just posting as I find it needlessly inflates the thread.

If I was someone else thinking 'damn this Adam guy is scum' I'd be wrong, since he's not.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 02 2012 09:22 GMT
#346
Hey guys, I'm catching up now. I'm in EST but my sleep schedule is all sorts of fucked (5:20am as of this post). I'll be most active around 4pm-1am EST but I'll try to get as many posts in during other hours as I can as well. I've played a couple of newbie games, but this is my first "real game." I'll go over the thread now, but if anyone has any questions for me feel free to fire away.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 02 2012 10:49 GMT
#347
Alright everyone lets doooo thiiiiiis

everyone got 1000 points last night

give them to me
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 02 2012 10:50 GMT
#348
Or I guess we all got them at the end of the day, whatever.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 02 2012 13:11 GMT
#349
Yeah so no one has posted yet. Kind of annoying.

So here's why you should give me your points:
(1) I am town.
(2) I can do bad things to scum with your points.
(3) points are way more valuable when concentrated than they are when spread out.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 02 2012 13:12 GMT
#350
another topic for discussion tonight: what the fuck do we do with Chezinu? He totally ignored both the serious and silly questions in my post to him, I'm really not sure what to do to get him more involved in the game so we can actually maybe try to get a read on him
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 02 2012 13:17 GMT
#351
On November 02 2012 22:12 strongandbig wrote:
another topic for discussion tonight: what the fuck do we do with Chezinu? He totally ignored both the serious and silly questions in my post to him, I'm really not sure what to do to get him more involved in the game so we can actually maybe try to get a read on him

We should steal all his points, that'll teach him
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 02 2012 14:35 GMT
#352
On November 02 2012 07:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
For tomorrow's minigame, I suggest "Race to lynch Crossfire!". Game involves voting ASAP and then afk'ing until the lynch. Have a great time guys, and remember, the points don't matter.

Ah, why do I deserve such wrath?
Be chill Hopeless and take a bath.
Cool your jets and you shall see,
Dat you shouldn't be mad at me.

Ev'ryone the time to vote is at hand,
For we should out Mem as one of the band.
Good to know that at least some think on their own.
Here is why Mem's case on Keir deserves a moan.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 02 2012 08:26 Adam4167 wrote:
Back with my thoughts on Mementoss' Keirathi case: Mementoss you say that Keirathi does not care if he is to be lynched, yet that is not indicative of alignment and I would wager entirely untrue as either alignment has a vested interest in not being lynched.

Canned peaches - Accusing Keirathi of being wishy-washy by using the term 'weird' is just plain hypocritical, as you yourself did the exact thing here:

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 08:08 Mementoss wrote:
V
On October 30 2012 00:25 Djagulingu wrote:
No!!! I missed a game with Chezinu in it.

On October 30 2012 00:25 Djagulingu wrote:
/replacement

On November 01 2012 03:17 Djagulingu wrote:
So did we start or we're just fucking around?
To be honest, I don't give a fuck
Uhh
##Vote: Chezinu
We should vote for chezinu because every single time there is a storm in the US and Chezinu is playing a game of mafia, he's always a scumbag.


-does anyone see a weird disconnect here between pre game and in game - excited to play the game/to play with chezinu and then comes out with that opener saying I dont give a fuck - I dont understand this sudden change in mindset, not indicative of alignment as of yet, but just really weird contrast imo.



Dogs are awesome - Granted I don't like Keirathi's laziness - something I already touched on when I was conversing with him - but this is the only part of your case that actually resonates with me.

Eventually, I find your case to be mostly padded and does not do a good job of illustrating why Keirathi is scum and only scum, hence I think you're faking it.



If you are wond'ring why I still write in rhyme,
Just know I do it to have fun one last time.
Keep on writing in poetry I shall not.
Later will I leave one last post in case I rot.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 02 2012 14:38 GMT
#353
On November 02 2012 22:12 strongandbig wrote:
another topic for discussion tonight: what the fuck do we do with Chezinu? He totally ignored both the serious and silly questions in my post to him, I'm really not sure what to do to get him more involved in the game so we can actually maybe try to get a read on him


Does chezinu normally play like this? I have never played with him before and don't know what to think. If you could compare him to Drazerk to give me an idea that would help because we both played with him in Aperture 2. Thanks.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 02 2012 15:23 GMT
#354
##GivePoints: Strongandbig

I mean, its not like the points matter anyways, right!?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:25:07
November 02 2012 16:24 GMT
#355
You have to list the # of points you are giving if you want to do it that way. You can also send points via PM to me.

Example: ##Give 500 Points: Mattchew
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 02 2012 16:53 GMT
#356
if i give you my points can you use them to kill Adam
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 02 2012 17:19 GMT
#357
On November 03 2012 01:53 Blazinghand wrote:
if i give you my points can you use them to kill Adam

Maybe you could lay out why you think he's scum in a well laid out case post? I'm just not seeing it, reading through his filter.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 02 2012 19:09 GMT
#358
On November 03 2012 01:53 Blazinghand wrote:
if i give you my points can you use them to kill Adam


I'm not going to comment on exactly what I will do with the points because I want to make it as hard as possible for scum to respond. But Adam will be on the list of targets for sure. (WIFOM that scum team)

People, I don't know if you realize but I'm dead serious here. Like I said above, here are the simple facts:

(1) I am town
(2) I can use points to do bad things to scum
(3) the points are a lot more powerful if we concentrate them than they are if they're spread apart.


It's getting kind of close to deadline. For this to work well I need as many points as possible so send me your friggen points.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
November 02 2012 19:09 GMT
#359
On November 02 2012 10:12 Keirathi wrote:
lol @ gonzaw

What did you expect me to do? I said 3 hours ago that I was going to vote for BKE unless people would consolidate onto you. Yea, my vote was at the end of the day, but its not like I didn't say I wasn't going to consolidate if I needed to. The only other option was to just not vote and get modkilled; is that what you wanted? I don't understand the faux anger.


How about not coming with a "ninja-vote" right before the deadline and vote before that?
When I was skimming the thread I was too busy trying to figure out the Mementos/BKE issue so I didn't pay much attention to it, but I kind of thought you were getting modkilled/replaced like that Djingu guy.

Why didn't you vote BKE when you made that huge post saying you wanted to lynch BKE for instance? Why did you wait until the last second to vote?


Adam, I know the restriction fucked things up so I decided to make a post as I went along and post it right before the deadline
It's a huge post that's there at the deadline so I can't believe you could fucking miss it

On November 02 2012 12:01 Adam4167 wrote:
Lets take a good look at what just happened regarding Gonzaw:

His reads are as follows -

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 01:51 gonzaw wrote:

So, damn; I think Keirathi is the most likely scum out of all of them.Oh fuck this post restriction I won't make it in time.
He has done 0 scumhunting at all this day other than making "probing" questions to players like Chezinu or BH. He wasn't part of any discussion, and worst of all didn't seem to care. He didn't even seem to care to defend himself against my points.
Again, the main point is that he doesn't care about the game and is not contributing.
Again, in Aperture 2 or even Can't Believe, he was part of every discussion and would have never acted like he's doing here at all.

Yeah I think he should be today's lynch. But fuck I won't be around here for that, so I hope you guys can make something out of this D1.

I wouldn't mind Adam or Mementos lynched. Adam hasn't done anything other than park his vote on Mementos. He posted good reasons to pressure him but not to base a whole lynch vote on him and disappear. Again taking into account him only "pressuring" BKE earlier and nothing else. He isn't pushing Mementos nor doing anything else productive.
Mementos made a "bad" vote on Xfire and doesn't seem to care to be part of any other discussion or scumhunting. He hasn't even moved his vote from Xfire or talked about Adam or Keirathi or any of those guys (that I remember).

I'm still not sure about BKE, since I can't really see a scum "noob" BKE make such an aggressive "joke" vote very early into the game. I'd prefer him not being lynched today but fuck it I'm not sure fuck running out of time.


So to summarise - happy to lynch Myself or Mementoss, claims to not be sure on BKE, leaning 'noob' town.


He reenters the thread right here, 08:58:

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 08:58 gonzaw wrote:
Kay, I'm back, when's the deadline?


At this point there are votes are 4 on Mementoss (Chez, Myself, BKE and Crossfire), placing a vote right here would put Mementoss to 5 votes first and completely decide the lynch, as BKE would need 6 votes to take the lead.

Then he proceeds to get himself an hour timeout, but keep in mind this does not exclude him from voting at any point. Complying with his ban, he falls silent.

He resurfaces at 09:41 in the voting thread to unvote Keirathi:

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 09:41 gonzaw wrote:
##Unvote: Keirathi


This proves that he is still around, and yet he still keeps his vote on Mementoss withheld.

Five minutes later, in comes Kierathi and votes for BKE.

Finally, at 9:56, Gonzaw smacks his (now useless, as Mementoss would need 6 votes to pass BKE) onto Mementoss, avoiding a modkill and wasting his vote.


You are just retelling what I did. How's this any helpful?

He could not vote against BKE to save Mementoss because he had previously said that he found him to be 'noob' town, leaving him with this as his only course of action to avoid hanging his teammate or a modkill for failure to vote.


I was planning on voting BKE until I saw the Keirathi vote after F5ing it and after that I didn't really know what to do, but after that I thought BKE had much more chances of flipping town considering those circumstances (Keirathi hammering him right before the deadline when he could have voted him way before, like when he made the case against him).

Right now you are using confirmation bias. You are assuming Mementos is scum and I are scum and making up a story because of that. That's not how it works Adam.

Scum. He dies tomorrow.


No.
Every single time I'm town people FoS me out of nowhere but I don't get misslynched and I don't plan this game to be my first misslynch either, so you better come up with better reasoning other than just restating what I did and making wild speculation while conveniently ignoring the posts where your theory falls apart.

Also Adam, you were here right before the deadline (you posted that "He won't but you will" comment). Why didn't you try to convince other people to lynch Mementos? Why did you step aside in the sidelines and watch town destroy itself and then as soon as the deadline comes you accuse us of the BKE misslynch like you had nothing to do with it?
You werehere and did nothing.

Here, these are the only posts before the deadline (1 hour or so) you did:

On November 02 2012 08:55 Adam4167 wrote:
Jep, I honestly believe BKE to be town, I have been on the wrong side of a BKE lynch before, he makes literally no sense and sticks to his guns about it, which is what I'm seeing more of here.


On November 02 2012 09:04 Adam4167 wrote:
Well, inconvenient yes, but not beyond repair, he can still vote.


You think BKE is town but you don't even try to stop his lynch, even though you saw him having 3 votes and apparently you knew Keirathi would come and place his 4th vote on him (since you accuse me of the same thing).
The guy you think is town will likely get lynched (again because of the Keirathi vote, at least in your mind) and you do nothing, absolutely nothing but sit there and wait for BKE to get lynched.
If you cared about the lynch you'd be here convincing people to switch onto Mementos and away from BKE. You would be convincing BH to vote Mementos instead of BKE (since BH was active all the time) but you do nothing.
You don't even try to convince me, the guy that had the "definitive vote" (at least until Keirathi came back) to vote Mementos either.
That's apathy to the lynch Adam, and it's what scum do.

Right now you think I'm scum out of a sudden because I voted after Keirathi, conveniently ignore the post where I share my thought process with town later (unless you think I made that post in 2 minutes after I voted Mementos), and post no reasoning behind me being scum at all other than that fallacy of yours.

Your only contributions on D1 where some slight pressure on BKE which you then completely ignored and just brushed him off as "town", and a small case on Mementos. The worst of all is that you didn't even push Mementos that much, you just made some comments on his Keirathi case, made that inital case of yours and parked your vote on him and that's it, you made very little effort in getting lynched even when there was a possibility he wasn't lynched (for instance when you were active in that last 1 hour).

There's no way you wouldn't try to push a Mem lynch right before the deadine if you really cared to lynch him as town.



For D2 if I'm still alive I'll be looking at Adam, Mementos and Keirathi.
If I'm optimist then all 3 of them are scum....although meh I get the feeling that may not happen (just like in every game of mine where I fuck up those multiple-reads), but I think at least 2 of them are scum.

If they were all scum the lynch would see kind of weird....although it'd make sense.
Adam would bus Mementos early in the day, but once votes keep piling on him he wouldn't make a 180º and decide to lynch BKE instead of Mem because he even said BKE was likely town.
So he keeps his vote on Mementos but doesn't really try to get him lynched, which is what happened in that last hours of D1.
Maybe in their QT they told Keirathi not to vote BKE and to have him hammer him in the end so Adam doesn't have to unvote Mem and hammer BKE (which would "out" him as scum).
Since Keirathi already said he'd prefered a BKE lynch over Mementos (and said Mem was town I think..?) he could brush off the suspicion later, and Adam would help keep suspicion off him like he's doing now (shifting the suspicion back to me).

It certainly makes sense to me, although it's kind of convoluted.

Adam: What I said above
Keirathi: What I said earlier. I don't see him care so little as town. I don't see him making his vote 10 freaking minutes after the deadline and not before (to pressure, to make people know who he wants lynched, etc what normal townies do). His demeanor kind of "seems" townie in a way, like he doesn't care if people FoS him....but that play is completely different than what I've seen from him before (he's VERY active in discussion) and he wouldn't just not care about anything like he does now.
Right now he seems to not give a fuck and just coast through the game, which town Keirathi would obviously not do.
Maybe it could be attributed to him finding the restriction too difficult to handle so he wouldn't try that much. But if that was the case he would at least go the BH path (not give a shit about the restriction) or explicitly tell us he's not contributing much because of the restriction, so I don't think that's likely (plus if that's true he should start being heavily active on D2 and contributing, which would be basically the only way to convince me he's town, so he would have no problems doing that if he's town, right?).
Mementos:Although I'm not too sure about him being scum like I said in my deadline-post, Adam and Keirathi being scum point towards him being scum by association in my mind. He didn't really contribute much other than the Xfire vote and the Keirathi case (and FoSing BKE later). Again his XFire vote was "bad", and maybe his BKE vote was OMGUS to avoid getting lynched. I didn't really see him push Keirathi that much after he made that case either. He's likely scum because of that


There are also some other players that are shifty, like the Django guy who got replaced, and now I'm a little worried about Xfire.

XfireHe seemed eager in early D1 and I thought he was likely town because of it...but damn his activity and contributions heavily dropped from mid-D1 ever since.
Yes, he spent most of his early posts pressuring some people and "posting rhymes" which is not alignment-indicative (although gut feeling tells me townies are more likely to do that)...but then he did almost nothing at all.
He only parked his vote on Mementos and disappeared for the rest of the day, and now that he shows up he doesn't contribute anything relevant at all :/

My gut tells me he's might be town because of him being so eager in early D1....but meh I don't really know if I should trust that. I hope to see more contributions from Xfire on D2.

Anyways, off to eat, be back later.




P.S: Wait, so these points really do matter? I can give my points to S&B or someone else if someone can explain me exactly what they are used for, how they work, etc. Of course the guy should be townie of course...but I don't have any reason to doubt S&B being town at the moment so I could entertain giving him points.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
November 02 2012 19:12 GMT
#360
S&B you know that just saying "give me points" is not that convincing? If you don't tell us what those points do or how they work then we can't know shit how you will use them.

If you are scum you can easily tell everybody to "give you points" and then keep them or do something anti-town with it and we would never know about it.
It could even be a ruse and, like the show states, the points don't matter and you are making a big deal out of it just to spread confusion.

It's unlikely but it's possible, and I can't know if that's what's happening or not
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