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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 08 2012 01:37 GMT
#1281
Holy shit. My Icon.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 08 2012 01:39 GMT
#1282
On November 08 2012 10:33 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:27 Promethelax wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:16 Promethelax wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:09 Promethelax wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:05 Promethelax wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:01 Release wrote:
about the 3 claims: acro, risk and ... (i only skimmed the thread to catch up. DIdn't catch the last one)

Honestly, all game, i thought Risk was the silent half of a Mason Pair, but i didn't think he was non-town because of the abundance of other non-town -looking people.

Acro a RB?
I don't know what to make of it. The story works out but that's not too hard to create.
He might be a scum RB and but this could probably be proved false by asking him to RB someone other than Draz or Kush (or me...)
Ehh. I believe it. No one else has claimed to RB me.

Have we accounted for all the RBs today?


I also claimed VT.
If Fuba blocked me and Acro blocked you (and botha re what they claim) then scum blocked Kush.


Assuming scum have a roleblocker. Which I am not convinced of.


Either claim roleblocker or stop doubting that scum have one.

VT:
Draz
Risk
Me
Kush
Release

1shot cop
thrawn

1shot jk
fuba

RB
Acro

Not Claimed:
DP

If you are vig or RB I would like you to claim either now or after night actions have resolved on next night.

Fro both release


Fine. I will claim after night actions have resolved. This mass claim should not have happened today. Frankly I am quite pissed off we didn't do it in the last hour of the night to be honest.


I had my reasons. I'll explain post game as explaining them now defeats the purpose of this. I think it is a pretty good strategy. Thank you for accepting this.

So you think the last two scum and the SK are all in Kush/draz/Release?


I am positive that Draz is scum. As does anyone with a brain. I was almost sure he was from day one after he altered his reads on people depending on their reads on him. Then he claimed scum with his shenanigans which make no sense from any standpoint other than newbie scum panicked that the vote on his scum buddy that had been there all day was helping getting his buddy lynched.

2 KP were blocked with 3 roleblocks. Kush and release both have a 66% chance of being scum/serial killer. I want to lynch kush first because he is scummy as shit so scummy in fact that I think he was framed or is investigation immune and has revealed his scumminess increasingly after he was in his words 'confirmed town' with his green check.

Release just happens to be in with kush and while I don't think he is as scummy as kush I certainly don't think he was town.

What I will say is that if release is scum then fuck you all cause i read 2/3 scum on day one.


So, just to be clear, there is no chance in your mind that the RB on me prevented a kill (that is that I am scum or SK)?

If both are scum and you are town I'll put you in my signature as my favourite sith lord.


No. Of course it is just as likely that a shot on you stopped 1 kp. there are 3 options and 2 kp
= 66% chance of kush/release having KP stopped. That is why I said 66% if you were not jailed it would be a certainty that both have KP.

Wow. I hope I am right. Keirathi has a sig of Shiao Pi mocking me. It would be nice to have some revenge. lol.


That the RB on me prevented a shot though, not the medic aspect of jailor. So at least one shot must (in your mind) have come from either release or kush.


If you are not town then I will do something drastic. No I am not considering that you have KP. I think that should be obvious. You have been my strongest town read since night one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 08 2012 01:42 GMT
#1283
On November 08 2012 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 10:33 Promethelax wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:27 Promethelax wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:16 Promethelax wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:09 Promethelax wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 08 2012 10:05 Promethelax wrote:
[quote]

I also claimed VT.
If Fuba blocked me and Acro blocked you (and botha re what they claim) then scum blocked Kush.


Assuming scum have a roleblocker. Which I am not convinced of.


Either claim roleblocker or stop doubting that scum have one.

VT:
Draz
Risk
Me
Kush
Release

1shot cop
thrawn

1shot jk
fuba

RB
Acro

Not Claimed:
DP

If you are vig or RB I would like you to claim either now or after night actions have resolved on next night.

Fro both release


Fine. I will claim after night actions have resolved. This mass claim should not have happened today. Frankly I am quite pissed off we didn't do it in the last hour of the night to be honest.


I had my reasons. I'll explain post game as explaining them now defeats the purpose of this. I think it is a pretty good strategy. Thank you for accepting this.

So you think the last two scum and the SK are all in Kush/draz/Release?


I am positive that Draz is scum. As does anyone with a brain. I was almost sure he was from day one after he altered his reads on people depending on their reads on him. Then he claimed scum with his shenanigans which make no sense from any standpoint other than newbie scum panicked that the vote on his scum buddy that had been there all day was helping getting his buddy lynched.

2 KP were blocked with 3 roleblocks. Kush and release both have a 66% chance of being scum/serial killer. I want to lynch kush first because he is scummy as shit so scummy in fact that I think he was framed or is investigation immune and has revealed his scumminess increasingly after he was in his words 'confirmed town' with his green check.

Release just happens to be in with kush and while I don't think he is as scummy as kush I certainly don't think he was town.

What I will say is that if release is scum then fuck you all cause i read 2/3 scum on day one.


So, just to be clear, there is no chance in your mind that the RB on me prevented a kill (that is that I am scum or SK)?

If both are scum and you are town I'll put you in my signature as my favourite sith lord.


No. Of course it is just as likely that a shot on you stopped 1 kp. there are 3 options and 2 kp
= 66% chance of kush/release having KP stopped. That is why I said 66% if you were not jailed it would be a certainty that both have KP.

Wow. I hope I am right. Keirathi has a sig of Shiao Pi mocking me. It would be nice to have some revenge. lol.


That the RB on me prevented a shot though, not the medic aspect of jailor. So at least one shot must (in your mind) have come from either release or kush.


If you are not town then I will do something drastic. No I am not considering that you have KP. I think that should be obvious. You have been my strongest town read since night one.


Just wanted to be sure. I really wish I was the SK in this game, I think I would have played as town as I could and also think that I would rock everyone, in relaity I would have lost but I really wish I was Black this game. Someday...

(congrats on 1500 posts and at least [redacted] time on TL).

okay I'm out for a while. See ya boys later tonight.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
November 08 2012 01:51 GMT
#1284
Why is everybody forgetting the fourth possibility in my list. Do you guys know something I don't?

scum shot sk. sk shot prom. rbs were inconsequential.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
November 08 2012 01:53 GMT
#1285
Not saying that's what happened, just everybody is running wild instead of going back to basics. The mechanics are so inconclusive at the moment. All we know is that drazak claimed scum and we should kill him for it.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 08 2012 01:55 GMT
#1286
On November 08 2012 10:51 Acrofales wrote:
Why is everybody forgetting the fourth possibility in my list. Do you guys know something I don't?

scum shot sk. sk shot prom. rbs were inconsequential.


Hmm. Must of missed that. I guess this is a possibility also.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 08 2012 01:56 GMT
#1287
On November 08 2012 10:53 Acrofales wrote:
Not saying that's what happened, just everybody is running wild instead of going back to basics. The mechanics are so inconclusive at the moment. All we know is that drazak claimed scum and we should kill him for it.


Yeha I agree. We should have killed drazak before all this claiming nonsense.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
November 08 2012 02:11 GMT
#1288
Did some thinking about kush claiming rb'd. I think scum rb'd him, thinking he is the SK.

That's making me think he's town.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 08 2012 02:15 GMT
#1289
On November 08 2012 11:11 Acrofales wrote:
Did some thinking about kush claiming rb'd. I think scum rb'd him, thinking he is the SK.

That's making me think he's town.


I disagree.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 08 2012 02:49 GMT
#1290
On November 08 2012 11:11 Acrofales wrote:
Did some thinking about kush claiming rb'd. I think scum rb'd him, thinking he is the SK.

That's making me think he's town.

why?
☺
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2012 02:49 GMT
#1291
btw, it's definitely past time to vote. if you haven't done so then you need to, or at least state your voting intentions and pushing whatever candidate you've got
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 08 2012 03:07 GMT
#1292
prome VT claim - Well, we never did resolve the "damage limitation" thing. Our best conclusion was different perspectives.
I still do think it's a scummy thing.

here's a better way to say it: If we lynched Draz, and Kush and they turned out to be scum and SK respectively and after 2 nights you were still alive, I'd want to lynch you.

+ Show Spoiler +
if either turns out green/blue, i'd have to rethink and re-analyze which claims to believe.
☺
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2012 03:09 GMT
#1293
##Unvote
##Vote: drazak


I was going through drazak's filter and it made me put aside my suspicions of his lynch coming about too easily. There is one thing in particular I want to point out that I think makes a red drazak flip is extremely likely.

Here's a series of posts starring drazak, prom, and everyone's favorite vt flavor theory. Prom asks drazak about his role, wondering if drazak is still sticking to his earlier vt flavor claim. Here's an exchange that comes immediately after that.

On November 06 2012 08:28 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 08:27 drazak wrote:
I already did that prom, like, D1, I'm carrot vanilla town


Glad to hear it, just wanted to see if you'd stick with that story.


On November 06 2012 08:29 drazak wrote:
why would I ever change prom? that would make me insanely scummy


The answer drazak gave is not a town answer. If you are town then your answer will something like "no wtf prom i'm still the same." Drazak says he'd never have changed his flavor because that would make him look scummy... yes scum drazak, that would make you look scummy. But if you're town then the reason you wouldn't change your claim would be because you are town and you didn't lie about your claim so you have no reason to change it.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 08 2012 03:16 GMT
#1294
EBWOP: 2 nights with kills.
☺
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
November 08 2012 03:21 GMT
#1295
Day 3 Vote Count


drazak(4): Acrofales, Release, DarthPunk, Promethelax, thrawn2112

Release(1): thrawn2112, kushm4sta

kushm4sta(1): Release

No one currently set to be lynched.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#1296
##vote release
I'm not going to QQ too hard about the drazak lynch though. I'll admit he could be scum. I would switch to him to avoid a no lynch but I doubt that's going to be necessary.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
November 08 2012 03:37 GMT
#1297
On November 08 2012 11:15 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 11:11 Acrofales wrote:
Did some thinking about kush claiming rb'd. I think scum rb'd him, thinking he is the SK.

That's making me think he's town.


I disagree.

Ok, convince me. Make a case on Kush that explains some of the following.

Kush is an extremely unlikely SK. I tried making a case for him and couldn't. The problem is that voting behaviour. It's not something an SK would do. SKs don't pull stupid voting shenanigans, because they don't give a crap about the lynch, as long as it's not their head on the line. Do you feel lime that was all an elaborate act? To what purpose? Is kush even the kind of player who can pull that off? Imho you have to be Ace to even come up with that kinda stuff, let alone pull it off convincingly. And then, what's it all for?

Kush is also unlikely scum. We already had the green check. We now have a roleblock claim. As far as I can see, the only way of this happening is if scum deliberately didn't roleblock (or roleblocked Prom) and took advantage of the missing block to claim RB'd themselves. Two problems here:

The first is that the claim doeqsn't feel like a lie. It has frivolous details like the "I got a PM". That is too much effort for a lie: It describes a process. People lieing don't imagine the full scenario, just the relevant stuff, which would be "I was RB'd", without the extras.

The second is that Kush already has the green check AND he claimed VT. Why have him claim RB'd, rather than his scumbuddy?

This together makes him unlikely scum, but if we find a framer, I will reconsider this second part.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 08 2012 03:38 GMT
#1298
why you felt the need to revote?
☺
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 08 2012 03:39 GMT
#1299
@kush btw
☺
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2012 03:41 GMT
#1300
On November 08 2012 12:32 kushm4sta wrote:
##vote release
I'm not going to QQ too hard about the drazak lynch though. I'll admit he could be scum. I would switch to him to avoid a no lynch but I doubt that's going to be necessary.


why are you voting release?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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