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Town:
Acro
Prom
mkfuba
Town or scum:
Kush
Town or SK:
DP
Scum:
Drazerk
Unknown:
Risk
Release
Thrawn
Out of the unknowns, I have not yet spent enough time trying to figure risk out. I am hoping I won't need to. I think he's a bad lynch candidate today and that is about all I need to know right now. Release feels like and SK and thrawn feels like town, but neither strongly enough to put them in their corresponding classes.
Regarding Thrawn:
I agree with mkfuba's assessment that thrawn and kush make an unlikely scumteam (I had that written down, I was happy to see mkfuba agreed). That means that if thrawn is scum, then kush is either town or SK. I don't feel kush has been playing like an SK AT ALL (I also went through Kush's filter for an indication of this and I don't really find anything, except his sudden acceptance of bugs bunny as a town role, rather than scum), leaving Kush town (if thrawn is scum).
Kush town and Thrawn scum is a possible option: Thrawn picked Kush to fake a DT check on precisely because he was suspecting him (and thus a DT check was credible). He has since kept the show up admirably by appearing to puzzle over Kush's behaviour (well, either a show or trying to figure out whether Kush is the SK).
Thrawn being SK seems rather dubious. With that claim he runs the risk of outting himself to scum. That is something an SK would normally not do. Plus, Thrawn is keeping up the appearance of really trying to puzzle out Release and Kush (he has left most other players slide, which is something I really don't like). That does not seem to jibe with an SK play.
Some things I like in Thrawn's filter and some things I don't. Yesterday I honestly thought he had done more scumhunting than he actually had. I don't like his lack of an opinion on many things. However, some things stand out as rather townie:
1. He did hammer hopeless1der, even if Kush hopped back on before thrawn did.
2. He placed a (somewhat obvious) trap when Drazak scumclaimed for the first time.
3. I think DP sprung a trap which was intended for me, although I'm not sure I see the point of that one.
Traps are not immediately indicative of town play, but they do indicate a town mindset: scum are generally too lazy to trap, because people are scummy enough in their own right and they already know the alignments. A hyperactive scum might try to trap for the SK (or even for the sake of looking town), but I don't feel thrawn is hyperactive this game 
However, there is still enough doubt in my mind to place him in the "unknown" list. Plus I agree that his roleclaim seems unnecessary.
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@prome drazak already claimed
@acro why is dp SK or town and not scum?
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On November 08 2012 06:05 kushm4sta wrote:
@prome drazak already claimed
@acro why is dp SK or town and not scum?
See my night post.
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As to claiming?
+ Show Spoiler [my own list] +
Town:
Me
Likely Town:
Acro (could also be an awesome SK)
Fuba
Leaning Town but not confidant in:
Risk
DP
Not Sure:
Release
Thawn
Scummy:
Kush
Draz
The only reason I have an issue with this is that it gives us a very inexperienced scum team in what seems to be an already heavily town favoured set up (based on the blues) though if we started 9-3-1 WBG might assume that SK shoots with scum at least n1. Does anyone know WBG's preference as to weather he does true RNG for teams or RNGs with balance in mind?
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On November 08 2012 06:01 Acrofales wrote:No potable?
not what I meant. Figure it out, we're not red.
Kush true facts, where did I say recently that he hadn't?
+ Show Spoiler [list of roles claimed and names of tho…] +VT:
Kush
Draz
1-shot cop:
Thrawn
1-shot JK:
Fuba
Jessica Rabbit:
Acro
Marvin Acme:
me
Not Claimed:
Risk, DP, Release
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On November 08 2012 06:05 kushm4sta wrote:
@prome drazak already claimed
@acro why is dp SK or town and not scum?
oh, you think I was talking to Draz in the spoiler labeled "Acro read this" That was for Acro.
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Re promethelax: I have no experience with bugs' setup rules, but you might find some indications in post-game analysis of previous games:
Movie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=346522
Emergency: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341663
WoF: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330925
I'm going home. I guess I have probably made my role so blatantly obvious by now that even a blind man could have figured it out. I know the obsQT has it.
So fine. I am Jessica Rabbit, the roleblocker.
First night I tried to RB Prom, but failed miserably due to getting RB'd myself. Someone else RB'd Prom too, though, so that was kinda funny.
Second night after agonizing over wth to do I RB'd Release, because I figured there was a good chance of him being SK. I very very nearly RB'd Kush which would've been a giant waste of time and I agonized for a long time over whether I should RB Drazak due to blatant obviousness after all. Settled on Release for his dark horse qualities: using RB as a cop check is fun. Unfortunately there are still too many possibilities to have learned all that much.
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why didn't you claim being roleblocked n1?
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As you probably figured out I know your role and was trying to hint at that with my comment, water in Spanish is aqua. Aqua is a colour that you get by mixing blue and green.
I am Marvin Acme the VT. I tried to make it seem like I was a newbie blue by being secretive as to my role to hopefully pull both the NK and a save. Clearly that worked so I'm pretty pleased with myself.
Risk, Release and DP, it is claim time.
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On November 08 2012 06:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
why didn't you claim being roleblocked n1?
WHY DON'T YOU READ THE THREAD!?
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Prome, I saw you basically beg to be saved twice, I believe. I decided to go with it XD
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On November 08 2012 06:32 mkfuba07 wrote:
Prome, I saw you basically beg to be saved twice, I believe. I decided to go with it XD
Yeah, I begged for the hit and the save, lol.
Since you are here care to comment on anything going on here?
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I'm Innocent Wabbit the VT.
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On November 08 2012 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i believe acro's claim
Why?
What do you think about mine and Risk's?
Why don't you read the thread?
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On November 08 2012 06:43 Promethelax wrote:Why? What do you think about mine and Risk's? Why don't you read the thread?
I thought he was town before the claim and it matched up ok with other things that have heppened in the thread
Risks's and yours mean nothing, anyone can claim vt
lol
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On November 08 2012 06:52 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 06:43 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i believe acro's claim Why? What do you think about mine and Risk's? Why don't you read the thread? I thought he was town before the claim and it matched up ok with other things that have heppened in the thread Risks's and yours mean nothing, anyone can claim vt lol
No seriously, why haven't you been reading the thread? Did you have blue reads on me or RIsk, did anything change for you because of those claims?
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On November 08 2012 06:53 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 06:52 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 08 2012 06:43 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i believe acro's claim Why? What do you think about mine and Risk's? Why don't you read the thread? I thought he was town before the claim and it matched up ok with other things that have heppened in the thread Risks's and yours mean nothing, anyone can claim vt lol No seriously, why haven't you been reading the thread? Did you have blue reads on me or RIsk, did anything change for you because of those claims?
what do blue reads have to do with anything?
what kind of accusation is "why haven't you been reading the thread?" honestly, what helpful answer could you possibly hope to obtain from that . and no i didn't have blue reads on either of you, especially not risk. and like I said, vt claims mean absolutely nothing, if you don't realize how that works then go look at the end of D2 again.
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On November 08 2012 06:58 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 06:53 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 06:52 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 08 2012 06:43 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i believe acro's claim Why? What do you think about mine and Risk's? Why don't you read the thread? I thought he was town before the claim and it matched up ok with other things that have heppened in the thread Risks's and yours mean nothing, anyone can claim vt lol No seriously, why haven't you been reading the thread? Did you have blue reads on me or RIsk, did anything change for you because of those claims? what do blue reads have to do with anything? what kind of accusation is "why haven't you been reading the thread?" honestly, what helpful answer could you possibly hope to obtain from that . and no i didn't have blue reads on either of you, especially not risk. and like I said, vt claims mean absolutely nothing, if you don't realize how that works then go look at the end of D2 again.
I don't like your reaction, I asked because I wanted to see your response but what you have given me is defensiveness and no answer. This has been a trend for you this game and the fact that you get defensive about it instead of feeling bad about it reads as a scummy mindset to me and not a townie one.
Green claims mean that we can't fake claim other roles if we are getting lynched. That is why they matter.
More Set Up Speculation
Ummm....I know we aren't playing C9++ really but if we were:
3 M = 1 1shot and 1 full JK
3 B = 1 1shot and 1 full Role Blocker
1 C = 1 1 shot cop
that is all seven roles with no T so, in normal C9++ we would have Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather but no SK, now I know this doesn't follow those rules per se but that seems like a good system to base our ideas on, the thing is that for an SK to be present we'd need one T which would mean that one of the 1-shots doesn't exist, either Fuba or Thrawn would be scum and I'd vote thrawn before fuba.
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