I think Hopeless was the one to really want to off matt. I was indifferent, based on my one game with him. Obviously it was a good choice though, so good job hopeless.

DarthPunk

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November 19 2012 00:36 GMT

#2296

On November 19 2012 06:41 risk.nuke wrote:
You should had realised DP was scum the very second he claimed Jailor and lynched him on the spot when he told you his protections.

What a crock of shit. My claim was no less realistic than Fuba's or thrawns until later.

They should have lynched release AND THEN lynched me. THAT was the correct play.

DarthPunk

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November 19 2012 00:57 GMT

#2298

On November 19 2012 09:52 Promethelax wrote:

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TL was down at the lynch deadline on the day we lynched Thrawn, this was not just a problem for me (it was talked about in the Obs for Mario) not being able to do what I had planned at that time fucked me, and town over, as did the fact that I set up a play that could be ruined by two hours of TL downtime.

Don't blame TL being down. It was a stupid gambit in the first place. You knew you were dealing with sheep. Why bother with their activity? Just let the sheep follow you, and if, as you say, you had me all figured out that is all you needed.

DarthPunk

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November 19 2012 00:59 GMT

#2299

In fact the whole thing about writing cases in case release flipped green was stupid and therefore gold for me. It allowed me to push my thrawn lynch at the request of confirmed town Prom without my motive for doing so being questioned.

DarthPunk

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November 19 2012 05:58 GMT

#2314

On November 19 2012 12:39 Keirathi wrote:

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There was a 1-shot JK, and a full JK (DD). For there to be another full JK, you would have to have 2 more D rolls (DDDD).

That would make the full roll CBBDDDD (0 T's). In a 0 T setup, there isn't a SK.

yeah, but even knowing that FUBA or thrawn could have been fake claiming also right?

DarthPunk

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November 19 2012 06:26 GMT

#2317

On November 19 2012 15:20 Keirathi wrote:

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Yes, one of them could have been fake-claiming, but not BOTH of them. Once risk and thrawn were dead, setup speculation would have told the thread that you HAD to be scum following standard C9++ rules.

But like I said, who knows what bugs does with 0 T's.

Oh yea, that reminds me of something else I wanted to comment on: 2 godfathers. No. Never. If you ever start thinking that in a c9++ base mini, you're just wrong. Again, maybe the host could change something to allow it, but no way should that ever be your first thought, and I wouldn't even consider it without seeing empirical proof that its possible.

SO only once fuba was confirmed town was I 100% fake claiming. Which is what I knew all along. The last day was always going to be the tricky one. It was the one in which I was confirmed scum. I just ahd to hope the town was useless on the final day and I could argue with whoever caught on. And it worked. All those people who are saying they knew I was scum as soon as I claimed are completely wrong. I was confirmed scum based on my fake claim due to set-up only on the final day.

DarthPunk

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November 19 2012 09:06 GMT

#2323

On November 19 2012 17:44 sandroba wrote:
That's true I thought there were 2 full RBs. Even so mafia needed a roleblocker and no one seemed to noticed it was missing.

Yes they did. But there were numerous plausible explanations for them missing. Not likely, but plausible.

DarthPunk

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November 20 2012 14:09 GMT

#2344

That whole mason thing was terrible. It caused a mislynch. It allowed scum to be on a safe wagon. Little information was shared.

Like imagine if there as a competent scum team after that start.

DarthPunk

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November 22 2012 02:50 GMT

#2353

On November 22 2012 05:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm going to be reading/posting analysis today since I'm finally done with school till Monday (yay).

Also on the encryption stuff, I considered making it a "common-sense" rule that encryption is not allowed. It's a somewhat hazy thing but if you have a town that meticulously encrypts their roles, it highly punishes mafia, who are forced to fake something very early into the game. Now one could argue that it takes a skilled town to do this and all be on the same page but I'd disagree; it just takes one loud person and a bunch of sheep to potentially break the game through a method that severely punishes mafia for pretty much no consequence.

Looking forward to it.