EPTWhat about those statements don't make sense with each other? I don't get it.
But again, it's not really DP's "defensiveness" - it's his willingness to explain a plan that quite frankly is wayyyy over-thought-out in an earnest manner.
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Hapahauli
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What about those statements don't make sense with each other? I don't get it. But again, it's not really DP's "defensiveness" - it's his willingness to explain a plan that quite frankly is wayyyy over-thought-out in an earnest manner. | ||
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On October 21 2012 01:18 Keirathi wrote: It was friday night. I went out. I wasn't expecting the game to start yesterday, and I wasn't going to change my plans anyways. Also, that's such a blanket statement (and not even necessarily a true one...I've not been super active early in like half of my games), that has absolutely nothing to do with my alignment. I was "very active" in the early game as scum too. So what was the point of even saying that? Oh hai again - I actually completely forgot about your GSL I game as scum (even though you specifically talked to me about it before >>). But I am curious what you think of DP's "plan" from an alignment perspective. We all had rather harsh things to say about it, but I think it's pretty townie. Et toi? | ||
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On October 21 2012 01:59 Z-BosoN wrote: @Hapa I see now, you referred to his over-thought out plan as "incomprehensible logic". Not gonna sweat over your choice of words, but I felt that needed some clearing up. You're obviously not scum... right? right?? I be like town yo. You can so take my word for it =D + Show Spoiler + /evil laugh+ Show Spoiler + JK | ||
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On October 21 2012 02:32 Z-BosoN wrote: Where's marv btw No idea - haven't seen him on IRC recently =/ | ||
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I don't think Drazzzz's vote is scummy - he's voting you to generate discussion, and townies are capable of doing weird stuff like that (for those of you who have played with kush, see his filter in all his games). Plus, it's not like he's voting DP and he thinks DP is town. Big difference. Aaaaaaanywho, I'm rather interested in iamperfection right now. He's usually much more interested in games as town, and his lurkiness early in the game lines up with his mafia-meta pretty well. ##Vote iamperfection On October 21 2012 09:16 DarthPunk wrote: FU hapa. You look town as scum. I read through XXI you looked so town, that even when you outed yourself as scum you looked townie townie town town. *giggles* @ Marv I will get my chess revenge damnit. But grats! | ||
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On October 21 2012 12:17 DarthPunk wrote: That is exactly what it is like. If you say you don't think someone is scum. You are saying they are town. He is voting for someone who he says is town. Eh I think Drazzzzz's explanation makes sense. Saying someone is "not scum" may just be poor word choice for a null read. Having coached him, I also think this could come from a townie version of him as well. A lot of this is biased by my town-read on him based on his increased interest/activity from previous games. | ||
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##Unvote I will agree with you on Vaderseven. He's done the least of everyone so far, except for marv. And marv being lurky is unlike his town or scum alignments, so Idunno wats up with that. | ||
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This drazak kid falls into the category of saying such dumb stuff that he must be town is what im thinking. I remember from liquid city and my newbie games that saying dumb stuff is not a scum tell and in fact it usally means the opposite. Also i cant imagine this game where there are 2 scum and the player list that we have that drazak would continue to say dumb stuff like he has so i would have to say town for him. Oh, and Idunno if I'd go THAT far. Mafia are capable of saying stupid things as well, though I do think he's town based on his interest levels. The question is whether he maintains his activity or not. | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:01 iamperfection wrote: i dont think so ive have seen this a lot espcially in my newbie games and it seems drazak is right out his newbies. The only person i remember saying dumb stuff on purpose was yourharry and he did that to match his meta. Nah mafia can say stupid stuff as well. Kush said silly things as town and scum. YourHarry in his most recent scum game also spouted off some stupid things, and not just to satisfy his meta. Saying stupid things is a null-tell alone. Howwweva, looking at Draz's defenses to his "stupid" statements seem pretty townie. He instantly and calmly responds to accusations against him. There's no hint of hesitancy or over-defensiveness at all. | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:11 DarthPunk wrote: Bleh. If you are reading him as town we are on completely different pages. Which townie in their right mind would keep a vote on someone they think is not scum? There is not rationalising that action with a townie mindset. It's a similar read to my read on you really. Newer townies aren't "tainted" sometimes have very creative reasons for voting people. In this case, Drazak is saying he's keeping his vote on a null read to generate discussion - I don't agree completely with the rationale, but I don't find that mindset scummy. But it's good that you don't agree with me - it generates discussion and whatnot. I have more faith in Drazak's explanation than you do. Either way, I do want to hear more from him on the subject - can't hurt. | ||
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It's a similar read to my read on you really. Newer townies aren't "tainted" by the accepted town meta of TL. They sometimes have very creative reasons for voting people. In this case, Drazak is saying he's keeping his vote on a null read to generate discussion - I don't agree completely with the rationale, but I don't find that mindset scummy. Fixed. | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:13 DarthPunk wrote: Also his defense each time is oh you must be scum and trying to trick me. Nothing townie about it. And your 'meta' read is bleh. He's been eager to post so far. Eager makes me think town. Whether or not it was an early game ruse or not we'll figure out down the road, but for now, I think he's town. | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:16 austinmcc wrote: hapa thinks non-new townies are "tainted." Not a townie mindset. Scum hapa! Damn you caught me! T_T | ||
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But in all seriousness, can't tell if austin's being sarcastic or not. There's a reason I use the word "tainted" in quotes. "Influenced" is probably a better term, but tainted sounds funnier =) | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:20 iamperfection wrote: in non seriousness didnt you coach him so he would be in fact tainted by you. Oh man... another townie tainted by my ways TT On October 21 2012 13:20 austinmcc wrote: austin never sarcastic. Non-town mindset. Then after my joke, you made a joke, and iamperfection made a joke. DP didn't make a joke. Guilty conscience. Hapa/DP scumteam. Damnit DP Y U NO JOKE?!?! But back to "srs-land", if there's one person I'd have to call out as a top scumread at this point it would be vaderseven. His contributions are nonexistent so far. His filter is comprised of a summary of his history, attacking DP's logic (but not saying anything significant about his alignment for it), and a promise to post more after work. ##Vote Vaderseven (this is vote #3 correct?) | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:28 Keirathi wrote: I don't really like Draz's explanation either. ... Second, putting pressure isn't scummy either. But, you're not actually putting pressure on him. You just parked a vote there and haven't done anything with it. THAT is scummy. What is the point of your vote right now? Ooooh I like that point. Interested to see what Draz has to say about this. | ||
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On October 22 2012 03:45 Z-BosoN wrote: my case on austin, the death of v7, Keirathi, yourself. Austin - will read and get back to you Kei - will read and get back to you v7 - my vote's currently on him which should say enough myself - errr what do you want to know? | ||
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On October 22 2012 03:53 Z-BosoN wrote: k k Well, you really think he is scum and should insta-die before he's even had a chance to defend himself? I'm uncomfortable sending him to his grave like this... I'd like to know if you are scum. Think about it. It's the pro-town thing to do. If you are scum, it's pro-town because town will lynch a scum. If you are town, then it's pro-town that we don't have to kill you. Tell us  Uhhgggh fine I'm scum. + Show Spoiler + Actually I'm town+ Show Spoiler + But in all seriousness, is there anything you want me to address? Like I don't understand this helpless attitude you're taking to making a read on me. I understand jokes to a point, but I'm not unreadable and I'm a bit suspicious of this nonchalant attitude you're taking to determining my alignment. | ||
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