Newbie Mini Mafia XXIX - Page 74

On October 31 2012 03:58 Rad wrote:
@nackht aren't there 3 scum right now? Or am I confused O.o

On October 27 2012 08:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Okay I just got back, and will be here pre and post lynch.

My thoughts on the current state of affairs. It seems the lynch is in favor of Inig, but Da0ud following close behind. I think mafia have difficulties understanding how they are picked up by town, they sometimes don't realize that their input is of lesser quality in certain situations, like Cheese doesn't realize that you guys know the status of the game more than he should.. because he was busy with RL reasons.. so a summary of the status by him is in no way needed or appreciated .. but because he's scum he doesn't want to contribute, which is why he doesn't with this summary. I like how you pick on my "summary". It was a sentence long--I didn't contribute with ONE sentence? It was verifying that I was aware of the situation, and I had to choose. My vote on Djo is obviously not doing any good. Because, as I said, the way he's received by town is an issue he makes an assumption about towns feedback which in this case is a towns intolerance for the fact that his vote does nothing. Obviously that's not what he wants because he's town too right? No, he's scum.My vote was doing nothing. Plain and simple. If you can give me an explanation as to why it would have been better to sit there with my thumb up Djo's keister instead of weighing in on the debate, I'd like to hear it. I still consider him suspicious, and he is by no means off the hook. Now the assumption about towns feedback is that people are going to question his consistency... so he's like it's ok guys i got this, I'm not letting him off the hook. Of course I wouldn't let him off the hook, and I didn't because I found him scummy as hell. My efforts right now are better spent deciding who is a better lynch candidate: Da0ud or Inig.

On Inig:

Honestly, I have no idea why people suddenly started piling on top of him. I found him -slightly- suspicious after his emotional outburst and semi-lurking. However, since then he has been asking questions (to myself included) and improving his post count. The cases against him are weak, imo. I've read through them I don't see much of a reason to lynch him. I've underlined what I think is important here.. the fact that he doesn't want town to think that he hasn't read the stuff he's talking about, what's important is that people realize he's done his research, lol Why should I paraphrase/requote the entire Inig case? Everyone knows what it said, and I pointed some of it out earlier in the thread. His vote on Imcasey I don't view as scum-intentioned; it was an attempt to draw out the lurker. I don't think scum would be that bold, because a vote like that would (and surely did) draw attention. WIFOM Like most of your argument here. That is not at all blending in.

His recent vote on Dandel, however, doesn't make sense from any role viewpoint I think, so I don't know what to think about that. I'll be reading more into his posts about Dandel later.

On Da0ud:

I skimmed through the cases concerning him, and by my own standards think he is more scummy-looking than Inig.

In particular, this post about the modkill.



We all saw the modkill. This isn't contributing anything. Why talk about it? A townie died, there's nothing we can do about it, especially since he basically suicided. This is a useless topic. Town wouldn't complain about something like this in 5 sentences.. He does it because he's not sure how he is supposed to react to this behavior by da0ud but he assumes that it bothers town so he tries to blend in by saying .. hey it bothers me too, see .. I'm town too. I reacted to Da0ud's statement in the following way: He was MK'd, nothing we can do about it, it's not significant. I didn't understand why he'd attempt to bring a lot of attention to it.

Then, there is the entire percentage-based town read on Djo. I believe Kush mentioned this. 90% town on the first day? I most surely don't see it that way, and a 90% town read based on little concrete evidence? I don't get it.
OK, I'm pretty sure about this one. Djo, is like the most enigmatic thing that I've ever seen in my mafiaplaying career which involves around 10 games. I don't have a clue if he's scum and neither do you guys if you are honest. But Cheese doesn't know that he shouldn't know, he doesn't realize how strange the Djo phenomenon is for us. I mean you guys pushed him .. had him at the brink, what seemed like forever .. time and time again the same pressure but he somehow dodged it matrix style and cool every time. So never would any of you or I get into a fight with someone about their opinion on Djo. To Cheese however this looked like a dog-pile from town on a townie and he thinks that if he could just push a little more that it would go through, and then someone comes along and says Djo is 90% town to them and decides this is the opportunity to pick on it. But in doing so he just signaled me the rift between town and scum and that he must be on the other side of it. Who cares about your mafia experience? It's irrelevant. I also have no idea what you're trying to say.

In addition, he's a semi-lurker / blending in.

There is also an entire meta-arguement against him as well. I cannot address this as I know nothing of his previous game meta.

This being said, I find Da0ud to be much more scummier than Inig.

##Vote: Da0ud

I apologize for not being here sooner and for this post being somewhat rushed; I had a personal matter to attend to that required my immediate assistance.