EPTCould you please explain your reasons for me to be your backup vote ?
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Could you please explain your reasons for me to be your backup vote ? | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
As I was expecting in the beginning we are having a hard time finding with "confidence" scum. Deb and rad have been so active and poking at each otjers tht | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
In fact, Dandel states that he finds Inig's play worrying due to him not taking any stances on anything but when Inig finally does(shares a lot of his reads, some town and with Dandel as his main scum read) Dandel goes around and votes him right away. I'm hesitant to call this anything else than an emotional knee-jerk response, but in any case I don't find it a particularly compelling argument as to why I should vote for Inig. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
Deb and rad have been so active and poking at each otjers that they actually look very townie to me. Pushing ideas, bringing content, putting pressure. Talking about smileyDjo he has put a lot of pressure on people. Asking open questions etc. For having played a game with him where he played to nice lovable newbie card, I believe he is trying to step up and actually be a leader for town. I put him 90% town. I totally hate the lurkers who actually do not post anything and hide to avoid potential suspicions. Id rather lynch lurking townie first day who doesn't help get info and push others to scumslip. If scum are among active player we will have time to hunt them down. They will contradict themselves. And we have semi lurkers like roco or blending ini. Which are pretty much as bad for town. I would like to put my vote on Ini at the moment cause roco seems like a total newbie trying to stand out. ##Vote Ini | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
Seeing as you've said very little so far, I'd appreciate it if you could tell us what you think with regards to the current lynch candidates. If nothing else, It would give the rest of us some insight into what you think. If you have a different case to make that is fine too, but we all have very little information as to what you think right now. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
I can see, however, that Ingi lynch will probably not go through today, since nobody wants to support it. I'm keeping my vote on him for now (because, conversely, I don't find the Djo suspicions to be too compelling) and I still have hope that maybe some people will look at it the same way. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 26 2012 22:50 Alsn wrote: Hang on, what? da0ud I'd like you to explain why you think Inig "blending in" is suspicious enough to vote him, yet you don't even mention myself? If anything, I'm far more guilty of "blending in" than Inig and I get the feeling that you're just sheeping right now. What puzzles me is that he still brings that up, even though it's not really true anymore. I mean, I think Inig probably scum, but not because of lurking or whatever, but because his case + the casey vote smell like scumplay to me. daoud, I expect better reasoning than that. It really gets me paranoid when people sheep on cases like you did, this early in the game. Man, I'm even less sure of anything now. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 26 2012 22:47 Dandel Ion wrote: Man, I did get a bit emotional, I admit, but I really do consider him scummy. Not just because he accused me specifically. I can see, however, that Ingi lynch will probably not go through today, since nobody wants to support it. I'm keeping my vote on him for now (because, conversely, I don't find the Djo suspicions to be too compelling) and I still have hope that maybe some people will look at it the same way. @Dandel We have plurality lynch system, so we don't need to consolidate, and I have no idea how many people are actually going to vote today... Could you tell us more about why you want to lynch Ini ? | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
Yes this is not entirely true anymore I agree. However I believe he is still blending in. I dun hv a computer to put a real case on him with proper formatting. I think he is still lurking (at least as much as he can without being caught by lurking policy). His defense was pretty weak and dandel your case on him does summarize well the odd point that stand out of his posts since he has come to defend himself. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Finally just now claiming "not needing to consolidate" is fishy to me too. If we don't consolidate, we're going to have someone get lynched with like 3 votes, reducing scum's need to assist in the lynchwagon as well as improving scum ability to make sure one of their own cannot be lynched - so we're less likely to find scum today, but equally importantly, we would have less information later in the game (and could cause town to go rabid on itself) We want to consolidate. I dunno if mods have more replacements lined up, I sure hope so. Having 3 playerdrops happen on day 1 is really depressing to me. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 26 2012 22:56 Djodref wrote: @Dandel We have plurality lynch system, so we don't need to consolidate, and I have no idea how many people are actually going to vote today... Could you tell us more about why you want to lynch Ini ? You just HAVE to ask this while I'm getting second thoughts about it... My case, combined with my defense of his post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374466¤tpage=25#482 I should probably have split the two better, I guess. What made my originally suspicious (apart from the whole not-doing-anything he did for a long time), I explained here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374466¤tpage=20#382 I didn't word to too agressively, because just this one thing wouldn't make him scum alone. But, both of those factors combined, he's (still) my stronged scumread right now. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
Clarity has been modkilled!! We are already one less town!! And he was posting actual content. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 26 2012 23:05 sylverfyre wrote: Early on, Djo, I felt a contradiction from you based on a combination of you criticizing the lurker policy + calling out a lurker. More recently, you've switched gears a lot and been unsatisfied in defenses mounted against your case. Finally just now claiming "not needing to consolidate" is fishy to me too. If we don't consolidate, we're going to have someone get lynched with like 3 votes, reducing scum's need to assist in the lynchwagon as well as improving scum ability to make sure one of their own cannot be lynched - so we're less likely to find scum today, but equally importantly, we would have less information later in the game (and could cause town to go rabid on itself) We want to consolidate. I dunno if mods have more replacements lined up, I sure hope so. Having 3 playerdrops happen on day 1 is really depressing to me. Please tell me the points you think I have been addressing in an unsatisfactory way. Same for you, Cheese, by the way. If you are town, I recommend you to give better explanations than this for possibly voting me because it is going to backfire on you. What do you mean exactly by "switching gears a lot" ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 26 2012 23:05 sylverfyre wrote: Early on, Djo, I felt a contradiction from you based on a combination of you criticizing the lurker policy + calling out a lurker. More recently, you've switched gears a lot and been unsatisfied in defenses mounted against your case. Finally just now claiming "not needing to consolidate" is fishy to me too. If we don't consolidate, we're going to have someone get lynched with like 3 votes, reducing scum's need to assist in the lynchwagon as well as improving scum ability to make sure one of their own cannot be lynched - so we're less likely to find scum today, but equally importantly, we would have less information later in the game (and could cause town to go rabid on itself) We want to consolidate. I dunno if mods have more replacements lined up, I sure hope so. Having 3 playerdrops happen on day 1 is really depressing to me. Why should scum assist the "lynchwagon" (it is bandwagon by the way) ? If we are going to lynch a scum today, don't you think that they are going to try to go against the bandwagon ? | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On October 26 2012 23:07 da0ud wrote: One thing worries me and seems to have caught no ones attention. Clarity has been modkilled!! We are already one less town!! And he was posting actual content. I just noticed this too... I don't know how. I didn't notice that until I saw it on the front page. I then checked Clarity's filter and saw nothing. Had to check mod's filter to find it. Sigh... | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 26 2012 23:05 sylverfyre wrote: Early on, Djo, I felt a contradiction from you based on a combination of you criticizing the lurker policy + calling out a lurker. More recently, you've switched gears a lot and been unsatisfied in defenses mounted against your case. Finally just now claiming "not needing to consolidate" is fishy to me too. If we don't consolidate, we're going to have someone get lynched with like 3 votes, reducing scum's need to assist in the lynchwagon as well as improving scum ability to make sure one of their own cannot be lynched - so we're less likely to find scum today, but equally importantly, we would have less information later in the game (and could cause town to go rabid on itself) We want to consolidate. I dunno if mods have more replacements lined up, I sure hope so. Having 3 playerdrops happen on day 1 is really depressing to me. Who are the three players who are going to drop, according to you ? Are you even reading this thread ? | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On October 26 2012 02:40 Alsn wrote: My reasons for thinking Djodref is slightly scummy so far is that he is asking a lot of questions. That in itself isn't particularly scummy(in fact, done right it's pro-town as it pressures people into sharing their opinions and such). The problem I have with it so far is that you keep asking people to answer you, yet your own statements so far amount to picking on the people who are being lurky(Ini, Roco) while at the same time criticising Rad for supporting lurker policy lynch?! This makes no sense to me. This in combination with the slip leads me to believe that you are trying to make yourself look good by being active. I can definitely see the possibility of there being town motivations for your actions so far, but I'd just like to point out that I have my eye on you. So, with that in mind, FoS Djodref. I'll see if I can't take a look at some of the other things said so far before I go to bed but if not, I'll do it first thing tomorrow as I will have a lot more time then. On October 26 2012 10:15 Djodref wrote: Honestly, I don't really care if Alsn has a FoS on me if it is for the reasons he has stated in his post. I know he is totally able to come at me with something more consistent if he really thinks I'm scum. Right now, I think his reasons are poor and I'm more interested in his opinion about Ini. | ||
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