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On January 06 2013 05:03 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:57 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 04:55 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 06 2013 04:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer, reading comprehension, acquire some wait, what did I miss? The sentence before the one you enlarged clearly states he's not afraid to die except from a vigi shot. It's not my point. He said he was the BIGGEST lynch canidate for tomorrow. Why would someone of town say something like this...? Especially since its quite clear to anyone reading the thread that he in fact is NOT the biggest canidate right now. Scum is afraid to die you know. Town is not.
Eh, yes you're right. Here's how I read it:
"I'm not afraid to die to anything but a vig" + "I'm the primary candidate" = "If I die at all I'll die to a vig"
I wasn't thinking that he was talking in the confines of the night cycle when it came to dying, so it didn't click. Apologies.
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It's cool Clarity. Want to lynch hopeless now? ; )))
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What happends if a mason get RBed? Will he be able to mason someone?
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On January 06 2013 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
What happends if a mason get RBed? Will he be able to mason someone?
Masons are immune to Roleblockers.
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Oh what a revelation, marv was town. Wonder what Palmar will have to say about this + Show Spoiler +nooooot, we all know he's just gonna shit on marv's play like he always does when he's wrong
Also I think the modkill for "not playing for your wincon" is honestly bullshit, but whatever. We should certainly kill hopeless or meapak tomorrow.
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I can't be around at daystart
If I get shot don't lynch marv. I absolutely despise the ragequit thing, but I don't think he's an asshole so I guess he's town.
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MZ is a good lynch, Adam, maybe cheesecake. Refer to my spreadsheet it's still mostly how I feel
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On January 06 2013 05:54 Palmar wrote:
I can't be around at daystart
If I get shot don't lynch marv. I absolutely despise the ragequit thing, but I don't think he's an asshole so I guess he's town.
No problem hun
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On January 06 2013 05:54 Palmar wrote:
I can't be around at daystart
If I get shot don't lynch marv. I absolutely despise the ragequit thing, but I don't think he's an asshole so I guess he's town.
Lol, you are funny : D
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On January 06 2013 05:55 Palmar wrote:
MZ is a good lynch, Adam, maybe cheesecake. Refer to my spreadsheet it's still mostly how I feel
Hellooooo.
I replaced Adam before the day even ended yesterday. Well before you ever left.
Quit being a dickwad and read the damn thread.
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palmar... marv flipped lol
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On January 06 2013 06:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also marv got modkilled
Right. But we at least know he was reading the thread until well past when I joined the game. Even if he read up to the ragequit and then had to leave and never saw the modkill, he should still know I replaced Adam.
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On January 06 2013 06:04 Keirathi wrote:Right. But we at least know he was reading the thread until well past when I joined the game. Even if he read up to the ragequit and then had to leave and never saw the modkill, he should still know I replaced Adam.
Yeah, I'm just letting him know.
Pretty sure he did read that you got replaced and simply forgot though, I did for a little bit at the start of n1. Like you and adam were seperate players in my head for a while. Comes with a 30 player game I guess.
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Oh look at this. I was doing so well in this game without my pills... Actually I'm still doing well. Other than clarity I'm still in approximately neutral standing.
Let's start with the blatantly obvious - myself implying I'm town. Well of course. Do you want me to be implying I'm scum or something? Is Palmar scum because he labels himself as "supertown" on his spreadsheet? I mean you have the full right to be pissed off at it but it doesn't mean I'm suddenly a red desperately trying to cover my ass.
So now it looks like I have no excuse but to talk. First let me explain you all as many reasons as I can why Clarity is wrong. Then I'll try to be a good little towny to calm him down.
I'll start by trying to be respectful and involved for the rest of this post. I don't want to start a shitstorm to distract the other townies. I don't think Clarity is scum for any of this, just wrong.
Let's start with his big post on me. It's on page 4 of his filter, I'm not going to quote/head the whole thing. Sue me.
But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them.
I'd actually like to say that there's at least one person suspicious of me D1 in about 80% of the mafia games I've participated in. This is again due to the "lazy townie" mentality you and lazer were talking about. This is far from the first time I've made such complaints and it will be far from the last.
Here are some highlights:
TL Mafia LIII (Area) (role: jailkeeper)
On April 22 2012 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So... can we have a little tidbit of it? Is my lurking in there, Mr. Wup? Because I'm a regular lurker. Sometimes I have to sleep and eat and go places where I can't exactly contribute to mafia games. This is especially apparent when there are 30 freakin' players and it's a pain in the ass to have to catch up all the time. What about the other inactives? What specifically irks you about my lurking that I have to be voted off?
TL Mafia LII (JubJub) (role: vanilla)
On March 16 2012 05:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 03:58 Jitsu wrote:
Yeah, Sentinel gives me a raw feeling too. I don't believe this is the first time that he has promised content but (probably) won't deliver.
Sentinel, why are you waiting to the deadline? If it's something beneficial to town, wouldn't it be smart to solidify a vote on someone, whether Kurumi or else? Why give the smallest amount of time possible for town to discuss things that you might have to say that might change our mind on something. Because I have school and swim practice.
I like to think it's not lazy townie but busy townie. Between school, swimming and work I don't have time to constantly be engaged in the thread which means I'm accountable for reading 22 pages of text whenever and wherever I am.
While we're on the topic of precedence I'd like to add two things to my meta resume:
1. That last post I was answering a question about my unreliability with analyses
2. This isn't the first time I self-voted (and it isn't the last  )
Another one from JubJub -
On March 13 2012 10:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
God... it's late and I don't want to think right now...
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel until I find a better reason.
That's enough of me quoting myself. So here's justification that I do all this stuff as town, your choice to believe just how legitimate the reasons are. My self-votes are for a multitude of reasons but usually I'll do it either because I want to vote for someone but I haven't found a target, or I can't think of anything so I'll self-vote to avoid a modkill. The quoted bit was strictly for the former reason, this game it was the former and partially the latter.
Next question:
He ends it all with saying he'll go read one of my older games and that he'll "give me the benefit of the doubt because I might be sick"
Wait. He doesn't think I'm scum? He also never ends up commenting on my earlier game, which would have been different from this game, so I am going with: He lied
My "promised grand entrance" as you called it was a flop. I am not going to debate that. I can make all sorts of excuses but the more needless excuses I make the less force the rest of my argument has. In fact, I chucked in Palmar because his read was so apparent and I needed to point my second finger at someone before that deadline. I will not debate any of that. A little jab at my wording there but everyone does that.
Moving on.
I am.... so confused right now..... so instead of trying to figure out what's going on I guess I'll go...... READ ADAM YEAAHHHHH
{side-by-side}
I feel that marv town is plausible.
I haven't really read the thread.
Please convince me that marv is scum.
This goes back to the first section (or second if you count the intro) - I don't always deliver, for better or for worse. You'll just have to take my word for it that these are repeated honest mistakes; I can't really prove the absence of any posts.
And then he reiterates I'm scum. Wrongfully. Moving on to my things.
First off I'm glad that marvellosity is dead, blue or not. His loss is my gain. Marvellosity has a 17-page filter and was modkilled on Page 119. If my math is right, he is responsible for approximately 1/7 of the posts in this thread. Now my reading will be 14% more effective.
Also, I thought Tunkeg was town because he was the same pompous ass I played with in AoE mafia. Being replaced by Promethelax, however, casts a new light.
His "effective" filter is virtually all on Page 2 and only on Page 2.
On January 05 2013 05:40 Promethelax wrote:
Yeah, kier this is dumb.
Look at clarity. He doesn't look like town clarity. Yamato can stupid as town. Clarity screams townie usually, right now nit so much.
We have approx. 3 posts talking about why Clarity is scum. This is the most informative one. Makes my case on Clarity seem like a novel. A slight defense of yamato's consistent derping (+1).
Then, like my neighbor, he chooses the candidate he's voting for based on a considerable amount of evidence:
On January 05 2013 06:40 Promethelax wrote:
Voting bc. Fuck lynching Marv d1 after he claimed cop.
And then tells people to consolidate the wagon. Of all his grievances in the game, this is the one that sets off my scumdar. This is where I read it four times and say "Wait what?" You post zero evidence and then proceed to support others posting zero evidence.
Then some passive agressivism towards marvellosity, god rest his soul. Also I'm confused about him asking both candidates for D1 lynch to justify their common hatred against MZ. And then both flip blue. Wut
Anyways, I'd like to round out this post by saying Promethelax is most certainly a scum I shall vote for him at my earliest convenience.
this post was brought to you by lithium carbonate
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Also for comprehension, here was the last post in thread when I started writing:
On January 06 2013 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:43 Keirathi wrote:On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky. Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people?
I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter. I have definitely read your filter. So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever. Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons. Which is basically a summarization of marv's case and the reason he would be a good lynch. I'm continuing on my streak of asking this question to people! Keir: What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him?
I refreshed the thread every 20 minutes or so and took a dinner break. If my tone unnaturally changed throughout that post, this is why.
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Three flipped cops.
Scum won't be wasting KP on obfuscation.
Tonight there will be blood.
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I don't think you should be measuring how well you're doing based on how suspicious you are to others, unless ofcourse you're scum. I'll take a look at prome tomorrow though, right now I'm just gonna watch some speedruns and go to bed after the flips.
Please post more like this, Sentinel.
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Oh shit those are in less than half an hour from now, right?
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EPT
