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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 05 2013 19:08 GMT
#2401
debars i just called you scum what do you say to that?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 05 2013 19:09 GMT
#2402
Iamp

Trolling =/= not forming reads. You are being silly.

Also, I would say I have had an easy time interpreting what Chez is saying

CC, based on d1, is a good candidate

Foolish - idk. Does he normally go lurky useless as scum?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 19:09 GMT
#2403
On January 06 2013 04:07 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 03:56 Keirathi wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:51 debears wrote:
Ok. Quick question.

I noticed a certain two people suddenly picked up their activity at the exact moment that Marv ragequit. They started discussing with each other. I found it extremely odd that they would both happen to pop into the thread, after having little activity for so long, and suddenly take over the thread.

Considering marv's thread presence and ability as town, how likely would it be for those two to be scum?

Maybe you could say exactly which two you are talking about.

A lot of people started getting active around that time, because *GASP*, its wakey-wakey time.


Ah good call. It appears one normally posts around that time. The other had not posted within 5 hours, but it would be a reasonable time to post based on location.

However, I do see activity differences from both of these people in their town metas. Voting analysis will commence


Stupid question: Why are you avoiding naming these mysterious people.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 05 2013 19:10 GMT
#2404
On January 06 2013 04:05 iamperfection wrote:
nobody?

Somebody must want to comment on my stuff no?

Sure, you misspelled my name.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 05 2013 19:11 GMT
#2405
On January 06 2013 04:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:07 debears wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:56 Keirathi wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:51 debears wrote:
Ok. Quick question.

I noticed a certain two people suddenly picked up their activity at the exact moment that Marv ragequit. They started discussing with each other. I found it extremely odd that they would both happen to pop into the thread, after having little activity for so long, and suddenly take over the thread.

Considering marv's thread presence and ability as town, how likely would it be for those two to be scum?

Maybe you could say exactly which two you are talking about.

A lot of people started getting active around that time, because *GASP*, its wakey-wakey time.


Ah good call. It appears one normally posts around that time. The other had not posted within 5 hours, but it would be a reasonable time to post based on location.

However, I do see activity differences from both of these people in their town metas. Voting analysis will commence


Stupid question: Why are you avoiding naming these mysterious people.


In short, Idk who is scum at this point. I'm not trusting anyone with names, for fear of them being scum and misleading me. If I withold names, then scum can not know if I'm talking of their teammates
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 05 2013 19:11 GMT
#2406
On January 06 2013 04:09 debears wrote:
Iamp

Trolling =/= not forming reads. You are being silly.

Also, I would say I have had an easy time interpreting what Chez is saying

CC, based on d1, is a good candidate

Foolish - idk. Does he normally go lurky useless as scum?

Part of being town is establish that you are town so you push your read you know this debars and you did not do that. You ahve no platform from which to push your read currently but it is encouraging that you didn't straight up omgus like last time but i encourage you to improve and improve quickly if you are town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 05 2013 19:12 GMT
#2407
On January 06 2013 04:11 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 06 2013 04:07 debears wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:56 Keirathi wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:51 debears wrote:
Ok. Quick question.

I noticed a certain two people suddenly picked up their activity at the exact moment that Marv ragequit. They started discussing with each other. I found it extremely odd that they would both happen to pop into the thread, after having little activity for so long, and suddenly take over the thread.

Considering marv's thread presence and ability as town, how likely would it be for those two to be scum?

Maybe you could say exactly which two you are talking about.

A lot of people started getting active around that time, because *GASP*, its wakey-wakey time.


Ah good call. It appears one normally posts around that time. The other had not posted within 5 hours, but it would be a reasonable time to post based on location.

However, I do see activity differences from both of these people in their town metas. Voting analysis will commence


Stupid question: Why are you avoiding naming these mysterious people.


In short, Idk who is scum at this point. I'm not trusting anyone with names, for fear of them being scum and misleading me. If I withold names, then scum can not know if I'm talking of their teammates

I think someone deserves a promotion in the Brown Brotherhood. Well, played. Well played, indeed.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 19:13 GMT
#2408
On January 06 2013 04:12 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:11 debears wrote:
On January 06 2013 04:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 06 2013 04:07 debears wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:56 Keirathi wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:51 debears wrote:
Ok. Quick question.

I noticed a certain two people suddenly picked up their activity at the exact moment that Marv ragequit. They started discussing with each other. I found it extremely odd that they would both happen to pop into the thread, after having little activity for so long, and suddenly take over the thread.

Considering marv's thread presence and ability as town, how likely would it be for those two to be scum?

Maybe you could say exactly which two you are talking about.

A lot of people started getting active around that time, because *GASP*, its wakey-wakey time.


Ah good call. It appears one normally posts around that time. The other had not posted within 5 hours, but it would be a reasonable time to post based on location.

However, I do see activity differences from both of these people in their town metas. Voting analysis will commence


Stupid question: Why are you avoiding naming these mysterious people.


In short, Idk who is scum at this point. I'm not trusting anyone with names, for fear of them being scum and misleading me. If I withold names, then scum can not know if I'm talking of their teammates

I think someone deserves a promotion in the Brown Brotherhood. Well, played. Well played, indeed.


Castle Brown seems like a silly place.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 19:14 GMT
#2409
iamp what do you make of Sentinel?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 05 2013 19:14 GMT
#2410
On January 06 2013 01:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 01:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
Eh, okay, my bad.

Hopeless do you have some thoughts on the presented cases?

Besides that its wrong? I'll happily address it during the day, assuming I haven't been vigged down. I think waiting until then will be more productive overall because people won't fear giving an opinion as much. I'll say that I think Lazer is town and bugs is scum for right now.
You know, every time I see you post, I just want to kill you even harder -.- ...

Can you give a SOLID reason to why you shouldn't adress the case right now? Why does it matter for YOU if other players fear giving an opinion? I hope you realise that the odds of you dying tonight from scum is non existant basically.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 05 2013 19:15 GMT
#2411
On January 06 2013 04:11 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:09 debears wrote:
Iamp

Trolling =/= not forming reads. You are being silly.

Also, I would say I have had an easy time interpreting what Chez is saying

CC, based on d1, is a good candidate

Foolish - idk. Does he normally go lurky useless as scum?

Part of being town is establish that you are town so you push your read you know this debars and you did not do that. You ahve no platform from which to push your read currently but it is encouraging that you didn't straight up omgus like last time but i encourage you to improve and improve quickly if you are town.


I'm not going to get into an argument at this point. I did push my main target: Tunkeg. My case got shot down by multiple people. Reconsider that
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 05 2013 19:15 GMT
#2412
btw, I think debears is town. His logic is actually really good IMO.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 05 2013 19:16 GMT
#2413
On January 06 2013 04:11 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 06 2013 04:07 debears wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:56 Keirathi wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:51 debears wrote:
Ok. Quick question.

I noticed a certain two people suddenly picked up their activity at the exact moment that Marv ragequit. They started discussing with each other. I found it extremely odd that they would both happen to pop into the thread, after having little activity for so long, and suddenly take over the thread.

Considering marv's thread presence and ability as town, how likely would it be for those two to be scum?

Maybe you could say exactly which two you are talking about.

A lot of people started getting active around that time, because *GASP*, its wakey-wakey time.


Ah good call. It appears one normally posts around that time. The other had not posted within 5 hours, but it would be a reasonable time to post based on location.

However, I do see activity differences from both of these people in their town metas. Voting analysis will commence


Stupid question: Why are you avoiding naming these mysterious people.


In short, Idk who is scum at this point. I'm not trusting anyone with names, for fear of them being scum and misleading me. If I withold names, then scum can not know if I'm talking of their teammates

I can't imagine a town debears ever not sharing information, no matter how small or negligible. You push things at your smallest whim, and then change your mind equally as fast.

What gives?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 05 2013 19:16 GMT
#2414
On January 06 2013 04:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
iamp what do you make of Sentinel?

he was the self voter right? He could be another possibility. The self vote would put the spotlight on him for a bit normally but he didnt really do much besides that. Would like more info from him really.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2013 19:17 GMT
#2415
On January 06 2013 04:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 01:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 06 2013 01:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
Eh, okay, my bad.

Hopeless do you have some thoughts on the presented cases?

Besides that its wrong? I'll happily address it during the day, assuming I haven't been vigged down. I think waiting until then will be more productive overall because people won't fear giving an opinion as much. I'll say that I think Lazer is town and bugs is scum for right now.
You know, every time I see you post, I just want to kill you even harder -.- ...

Can you give a SOLID reason to why you shouldn't adress the case right now? Why does it matter for YOU if other players fear giving an opinion? I hope you realise that the odds of you dying tonight from scum is non existant basically.

Oh, I'm not worried about myself dieing to anything but a vig. However, I seem to be the most likely candidate now that marv is dead and gone. I want this issue fresh when people come back to it so there is no excuse for them to neglect to comment on your/wbg's case.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 19:18 GMT
#2416
On January 06 2013 04:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
iamp what do you make of Sentinel?

he was the self voter right? He could be another possibility. The self vote would put the spotlight on him for a bit normally but he didnt really do much besides that. Would like more info from him really.


I made a pretty expansive case on him if you haven't looked at it. Doesn't mention the self-vote though, cause that's just beyond stupid.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 05 2013 19:18 GMT
#2417
lol, what a pussy. Okay, i suppose all in all his death is good for us, since we don't have to waste a full cycle on him.
Sorry, but that was just really bad play by him. I am not going to point out his errors again since that already happened several times...

Now:

GMarshal 10/15 = 66.67%
Divinek 8/12 = 66.67%
Supersoft 9/14 = 64.29%
Adam4167 7/11 = 63.64%
marvellosity 14/23 = 60.87%
Bill Murray 15/25 = 60.00%
GreYmist 6/10 = 60.00%
Hapahauli 6/10 = 60.00%
Pyrrhuloxia 6/10 = 60.00%
Southrawrea 6/10 = 60.00%

i am #3 on the overall win percentage and i wanna get #1
that's why you're not allowed to screw up:

1. Palmar is town.
I know, mighty BC thought differently, but I really played enough games with Palmar to judge him.
that motivated trolling in the beginning. After that the pressuring on derps like vivax and finally that case on marv.
... Yeah well that case was okay
Most important for me are the little things like: His spreadsheet says iamp is mason. Therefor town. Yes. That is absolutely correct! A mason that masons Palmar day1 is town in this game.
No scumteam says: "Hey give some weak players the masonability to talk to palmar" who basically is
a scumradar. (well, lol he failed a little recently, but they dont know that)

2. Keep calm
My lynch suggestion is MZ.
MZ refuses to play this game, however he had a correct townread on Palmar (as stated above) and
I think he also has a correct read on me. The way he's talking to me implicates that he doesnt even think i could be scum.
For someone who doesn't really care, this reads are too correct.
And that is the diffenrence in his play compared to bureaucracy-mafia.
The difference between lazy scum and lazy town.

yeah well i had much more... But marvels flip screwed that over... that stuff was balance-based and since marvel was town, more people are likely to be scum...
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 05 2013 19:19 GMT
#2418
On January 03 2013 16:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
the only person in the thread i don't have any concerns about is grush, go figure

chezinu a way better policy lynch than grush


Sometimes the color of the individual does not matter. If one poses a threat to the Brown Brotherhood. They must be dealt with...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 05 2013 19:21 GMT
#2419
On January 06 2013 04:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:16 iamperfection wrote:
On January 06 2013 04:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
iamp what do you make of Sentinel?

he was the self voter right? He could be another possibility. The self vote would put the spotlight on him for a bit normally but he didnt really do much besides that. Would like more info from him really.


I made a pretty expansive case on him if you haven't looked at it. Doesn't mention the self-vote though, cause that's just beyond stupid.

i read your case i could get behind it. Like Mr. CC a lot more though for the time being. And i would sheep marv first before i would sheep you. Just a fact.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 05 2013 19:23 GMT
#2420
On January 06 2013 04:18 supersoft wrote:
1. Palmar is town.
I know, mighty BC thought differently, but I really played enough games with Palmar to judge him.
that motivated trolling in the beginning. After that the pressuring on derps like vivax and finally that case on marv.
... Yeah well that case was okay
Most important for me are the little things like: His spreadsheet says iamp is mason. Therefor town. Yes. That is absolutely correct! A mason that masons Palmar day1 is town in this game.
No scumteam says: "Hey give some weak players the masonability to talk to palmar" who basically is
a scumradar. (well, lol he failed a little recently, but they dont know that)


Herp derp, your reasoning here is terrible.

Of course if Palmar is scum and iamp isn't, he would know iamp was town. How does that make Palmar town? It makes iamp town, because of the reasons to said, but that doesn't say anything about Palmar.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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