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On January 06 2013 01:46 Clarity_nl wrote: How about my case on Sentinel? I think marv's case on MZ is stronger and I would also rather lynch CC first, but your case is something I'd give a second look to. I feel the strongest point in your case on sent is the 'implications' that hes town. Also you called him Jackal a couple times I think towards the end. Lazy and lurky might be his meta, I'm going to skim a couple of his games.
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it's not personal. I just want to know if you're scum.
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On January 06 2013 01:52 supersoft wrote: it's not personal. I just want to know if you're scum.
Try doing it without implying that I might be scum a bunch of times. Figure it out and then call it as you see it.
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I wouldn't blame marv if he actually rage quit, I'd be pretty mad if I were in his shoes as town.
Doesn't really say anything about his alignment-either he cools off and comes back or he actually gets modkilled/replaced. We should ignore him for now I think.
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There are simply too many people not saying anything. I want to lynch Jackal too, now. What now ladies?
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Yeah the input here is really bad... Foolish ur missing, too
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On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote: Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes? They can. But I don't find it very likely. That's not not not what I asked. I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely. Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad. Okay, I just want to comment on this while I'm catching up with what I missed overnight.
There is a very important difference between marv bussing Adam, and scum marv potentially bussing scum MZ. You see, in Hero, Palmar was pushing Adam and he was right. A town Palmar who is correct gets his way, so Marv sheeped onto the case.
Don't get me wrong, people had talked about MZ a bit before Marv's case. But he wasn't getting any traction. Scum marv will bus when he has to, generally not before. Especially if the player is someone who isn't a total liability.
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On January 06 2013 01:42 Toadesstern wrote: @Keirathi: I already told Kurumi I'm sorry and he said it's fine, so what do you think of me?
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On January 06 2013 02:48 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote: Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes? They can. But I don't find it very likely. That's not not not what I asked. I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely. Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad. Okay, I just want to comment on this while I'm catching up with what I missed overnight. There is a very important difference between marv bussing Adam, and scum marv potentially bussing scum MZ. You see, in Hero, Palmar was pushing Adam and he was right. A town Palmar who is correct gets his way, so Marv sheeped onto the case. Don't get me wrong, people had talked about MZ a bit before Marv's case. But he wasn't getting any traction. Scum marv will bus when he has to, generally not before. Especially if the player is someone who isn't a total liability.
Yeah, he didn't instigate it, but I distinctly remember not being comfortable with the lynch and marv trying to talk me into it. It's still a fair point though, they're not the same.
What my point was however, was that lazer's "they can't both be scum" was a statement that needed to be backed up, and I don't think saying "scum marv wouldn't have jumped on a scum MZ there" is reasonable.
Anyway, I read the scum qt from hero and marv specifically said he jumped on adam because he didn't believe adam would get lynched. That changed later obviously.
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Guys, try to consolidate your posts. It is really bad that I see two people having half of a page in one-liners between them. Also, there is nothing like "ragequit-replacement" - there's ragequit-modkill and I don't care about alignment. Please play civil.
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[back from travelling]
BC flipping blue pisses me off, I don't understand why you would make it so easy to be mislynched if you had power role/good asset to town as a proven good player.
I think MZ case is stronger than UoN and hopeless case.
@Marv (if you're still there): I thought your case on Adam was really fishy, smelled of scum desperation rather than townie injustice. Im pretty sure I explained this previously though. Also I might waffle because I hate spamming so I will make sure that my posts are understood rather than have to repeat myself/clarify. Its how I post generally on the internet.
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On January 06 2013 02:51 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 01:42 Toadesstern wrote: @Keirathi: I already told Kurumi I'm sorry and he said it's fine, so what do you think of me? What did you tell Kurumi you were sorry for?
And honestly I have no fucking clue how to read you. So many of your posts make me cringe, but (I think) the only time I've ever played with you was CT and the dynamic was completely different than a "normal" game. I've casually read a few of your games (YANMM, LVII, seems like maybe one more), but not any scum games (again, except CT, but hard to draw parallels).
Who the fuck knows?
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On January 06 2013 03:10 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 02:51 Toadesstern wrote:On January 06 2013 01:42 Toadesstern wrote: @Keirathi: I already told Kurumi I'm sorry and he said it's fine, so what do you think of me? What did you tell Kurumi you were sorry for? And honestly I have no fucking clue how to read you. So many of your posts make me cringe, but (I think) the only time I've ever played with you was CT and the dynamic was completely different than a "normal" game. I've casually read a few of your games (YANMM, LVII, seems like maybe one more), but not any scum games (again, except CT, but hard to draw parallels). Who the fuck knows? forget it I guess, I'll post some later
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Marvellosity modkilled for playing against his win condition. + Show Spoiler +Marvellosity the Mandy (Slow Cop) is dead.
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On January 05 2013 22:06 marvellosity wrote: this game has led to a certain unavoidable snippiness level, by dint of sheer stupidity and bigheadedness (Palmar) and sheeping of said stupidity and bigheadedness (lots of town)
Marv how do you know it's town sheeping palmar and not scum>?
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On January 06 2013 03:16 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:06 marvellosity wrote: this game has led to a certain unavoidable snippiness level, by dint of sheer stupidity and bigheadedness (Palmar) and sheeping of said stupidity and bigheadedness (lots of town) Marv how do you know it's town sheeping palmar and not scum>? 11 people can't all be scum, goober.
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This Academy seems to be driving us crazy. We were a united class. I'm sadden by the effects of the winter. Let us rest until the morning. There is no need to waste energy in the cold of the night, good night.
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pffff, great.
If people are gonna start accusing Palmar please do so on the merits of his case (which a lot of you followed) and not 'because he was wrong about Marv.
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