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On January 06 2013 04:17 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:14 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 06 2013 01:45 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 06 2013 01:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
Eh, okay, my bad.
Hopeless do you have some thoughts on the presented cases? Besides that its wrong? I'll happily address it during the day, assuming I haven't been vigged down. I think waiting until then will be more productive overall because people won't fear giving an opinion as much. I'll say that I think Lazer is town and bugs is scum for right now. You know, every time I see you post, I just want to kill you even harder -.- ... Can you give a SOLID reason to why you shouldn't adress the case right now? Why does it matter for YOU if other players fear giving an opinion? I hope you realise that the odds of you dying tonight from scum is non existant basically. Oh, I'm not worried about myself dieing to anything but a vig. However, I seem to be the most likely candidate now that marv is dead and gone. I want this issue fresh when people come back to it so there is no excuse for them to neglect to comment on your/wbg's case. How can you guys not see Hopeless as scum? He claims that he is the MOST likely lynch target for tomorrow despite almost everyone who commented on it dissmisses it as''not so scummy''? Can you really see a town motivation for this?
Also, your reasoning is crap once again.
I'm afk for a while.
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alright im gone for a bit might be back before day might not.
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On January 06 2013 04:23 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:17 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 06 2013 04:14 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 06 2013 01:45 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 06 2013 01:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
Eh, okay, my bad.
Hopeless do you have some thoughts on the presented cases? Besides that its wrong? I'll happily address it during the day, assuming I haven't been vigged down. I think waiting until then will be more productive overall because people won't fear giving an opinion as much. I'll say that I think Lazer is town and bugs is scum for right now. You know, every time I see you post, I just want to kill you even harder -.- ... Can you give a SOLID reason to why you shouldn't adress the case right now? Why does it matter for YOU if other players fear giving an opinion? I hope you realise that the odds of you dying tonight from scum is non existant basically. Oh, I'm not worried about myself dieing to anything but a vig. However, I seem to be the most likely candidate now that marv is dead and gone. I want this issue fresh when people come back to it so there is no excuse for them to neglect to comment on your/wbg's case. How can you guys not see Hopeless as scum? He claims that he is the MOST likely lynch target for tomorrow despite almost everyone who commented on it dissmisses it as ''not so scummy''? Can you really see a town motivation for this? Also, your reasoning is crap once again. I'm afk for a while.
I'm sorry, should I have qualified with "one of..."? There are cases on MZ, Sentinel, 2 cases on me, Lamp's list of blurbs and general feeling behind lynching CC and shooting tube. In addition there's a load of waffle about whether Palmar being wrong makes him scum (it makes him scum-my) and some general shitflinging to no avail. Discussing ME and the cases against me is in my opinion a good thing for town, and since the thread generally dies at night (in addition to it being a weekend) I'd rather wait until Day in order to do it.
Like you said, I`m not going to die, so what`s the hurry?
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On January 05 2013 22:34 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 08:14 HiroPro wrote:On January 05 2013 08:04 Foolishness wrote:
lol It's like everyone who looks suspicious has accused Tunkeg of being mafia That's actually how I based a lot of my reads -_- @ HiroCould you expand on this one please ? Do you mean that mafia was pushing Tunkeg/Prom lynch, assuming he is town ? I would like to know how you had Tunkeg as town ?
Sure. His attitude and tone in regards to "vets" and general play overall were exactly what I expected from his town play after the last game he was in. The reads post that he made seemed genuine and resembled how he has posted in the past.
Tunkeg is a very easy target to attack as mafia (I've done it myself), and none of the people who said that he was suspicious ever presented any good reasons for why he was mafia. The only person who ever tried to make anything resembling a case was debears, and his post was complete nonsense.
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supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky. Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people?
I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter.
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On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky. Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people?
I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter.
I have definitely read your filter.
So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever.
Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons.
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On January 06 2013 04:43 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky. Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people?
I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter. I have definitely read your filter. So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever. Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons.
Which is basically a summarization of marv's case and the reason he would be a good lynch.
I'm continuing on my streak of asking this question to people!
Keir: What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him?
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On January 06 2013 04:43 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky. Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people?
I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter. I have definitely read your filter. So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever. Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons.
I thought Palmar was town for the beginning and then changed my mind when I thought he was gonna try and hide in plain sight. But he pulled his shit together which meant I wasn't gonna lynch him. Especially given Marv's flip, I'm still a little uncertain but at this point I'm pretty sure he's town. As for Marv, I'm really glad he's dead. He's literally the reason why town hasn't done shit. His spamming and dickishness was getting us nowhere and making the thread a nightmare to read. When I find a target who I'm sure is scum then I'll push them hard. But in d1, with the amount of spam in the thread and the fact that I didn't have a stronger read than Palmar's case on marv, I was willing to go along. Now had I been active when the whole BC bullshit got started I'd have certainly come out strongly against that but that's all after the fact now and I can't use that to show my innocence.
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On January 06 2013 04:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer, reading comprehension, acquire some wait, what did I miss?
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On January 06 2013 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:43 Keirathi wrote:On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky. Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people?
I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter. I have definitely read your filter. So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever. Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons. Which is basically a summarization of marv's case and the reason he would be a good lynch. I'm continuing on my streak of asking this question to people! Keir: What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him?
I already said what I thought of Sentinel, before your case. Your case does have some merit, but I'm not sure it pushes him into the OMG HE MUST BE SCUM side of things. I'm interested to see what he does from now on, though.
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On January 06 2013 03:43 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 03:36 tube wrote:
well i was planning on trying once more shit happened but having no information on town side kinda makes you wary of saying anything Modkill this please. This is how you play against your wincon
Don't even think about saying something like this again. If you have a external out-of-gameplay problem with a specific player PM the hosts.
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On January 06 2013 04:55 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer, reading comprehension, acquire some wait, what did I miss?
The sentence before the one you enlarged clearly states he's not afraid to die except from a vigi shot.
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On January 06 2013 04:35 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:34 Djodref wrote:On January 05 2013 08:14 HiroPro wrote:On January 05 2013 08:04 Foolishness wrote:
lol It's like everyone who looks suspicious has accused Tunkeg of being mafia That's actually how I based a lot of my reads -_- @ HiroCould you expand on this one please ? Do you mean that mafia was pushing Tunkeg/Prom lynch, assuming he is town ? I would like to know how you had Tunkeg as town ? Sure. His attitude and tone in regards to "vets" and general play overall were exactly what I expected from his town play after the last game he was in. The reads post that he made seemed genuine and resembled how he has posted in the past. Tunkeg is a very easy target to attack as mafia (I've done it myself), and none of the people who said that he was suspicious ever presented any good reasons for why he was mafia. The only person who ever tried to make anything resembling a case was debears, and his post was complete nonsense.
Ok, let's assume that Tunkeg is town for a moment.
Isn't it as easy for mafia to attack Tunkeg than it is for town. I didn't know him when I played in your game and I was pretty sure he was mafia. It's true that I had at least a case against him while lynching him, but it was not that good, and just the way he reacted to suspicion made him more scum in my eyes. But that was last game.
So I don't think it is a good idea to base your reads on how people handle Tunkeg, at least not for the players not knowing him.
Also I don't think Tunkeg style to be hard to emulate as scum, even if I agree that Tunkeg/Prom are more likely to be town.
I just hope that you are not going to limit yourself on the players who had painted Tunkeg in red 
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On January 06 2013 04:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:43 Keirathi wrote:On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky. Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people?
I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter. I have definitely read your filter. So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever. Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons. I thought Palmar was town for the beginning and then changed my mind when I thought he was gonna try and hide in plain sight. But he pulled his shit together which meant I wasn't gonna lynch him. Especially given Marv's flip, I'm still a little uncertain but at this point I'm pretty sure he's town. As for Marv, I'm really glad he's dead. He's literally the reason why town hasn't done shit. His spamming and dickishness was getting us nowhere and making the thread a nightmare to read. When I find a target who I'm sure is scum then I'll push them hard. But in d1, with the amount of spam in the thread and the fact that I didn't have a stronger read than Palmar's case on marv, I was willing to go along. Now had I been active when the whole BC bullshit got started I'd have certainly come out strongly against that but that's all after the fact now and I can't use that to show my innocence.
That's not even my point.
You defended yourself with "Was I pushing a mafia agenda?"
With 25 people out of 30 voting for 2 mod-confirmed townies, what agenda do you actually think scum would have needed to push?
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On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
On January 06 2013 04:18 supersoft wrote:
The way he's talking to me implicates that he doesnt even think i could be scum.
... okay I am not a player who accuses someone because he's too good.
No question, i think you can read us properly. But did you? well that's my question...
On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky.
okay, you got a point... thats true... traitor is special...
well I wanna see your case. We'll stay in touch.
gotta go
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On January 06 2013 04:57 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:55 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 06 2013 04:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer, reading comprehension, acquire some wait, what did I miss? The sentence before the one you enlarged clearly states he's not afraid to die except from a vigi shot. It's not my point. He said he was the BIGGEST lynch canidate for tomorrow. Why would someone of town say something like this...? Especially since its quite clear to anyone reading the thread that he in fact is NOT the biggest canidate right now. Scum is afraid to die you know. Town is not.
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On January 06 2013 04:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:43 Keirathi wrote:On January 06 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
supersoft don't compare my play this game with bureaucracy, I was the mafia traitor that game and so my play was really wonky. Also it really doesn't make sense that you wanna kill me because I have two correct town reads. I know I'm not playing a good game so far but I don't think you should crucify me for having 2 out of 30 correct reads. I've seen you and Palmar play a lot, I'm very sure I know what you guys look like as town.
Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people?
I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter. I have definitely read your filter. So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever. Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons. I thought Palmar was town for the beginning and then changed my mind when I thought he was gonna try and hide in plain sight. But he pulled his shit together which meant I wasn't gonna lynch him. Especially given Marv's flip, I'm still a little uncertain but at this point I'm pretty sure he's town. As for Marv, I'm really glad he's dead. He's literally the reason why town hasn't done shit. His spamming and dickishness was getting us nowhere and making the thread a nightmare to read. When I find a target who I'm sure is scum then I'll push them hard. But in d1, with the amount of spam in the thread and the fact that I didn't have a stronger read than Palmar's case on marv, I was willing to go along. Now had I been active when the whole BC bullshit got started I'd have certainly come out strongly against that but that's all after the fact now and I can't use that to show my innocence.
Not only would defending bc in that situation have made you look bad, not good, the fact that you even consider a hypothetical of how it would have made you look betrays a scum mindset.
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On January 06 2013 04:32 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:23 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 06 2013 04:17 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 06 2013 04:14 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 06 2013 01:45 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 06 2013 01:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
Eh, okay, my bad.
Hopeless do you have some thoughts on the presented cases? Besides that its wrong? I'll happily address it during the day, assuming I haven't been vigged down. I think waiting until then will be more productive overall because people won't fear giving an opinion as much. I'll say that I think Lazer is town and bugs is scum for right now. You know, every time I see you post, I just want to kill you even harder -.- ... Can you give a SOLID reason to why you shouldn't adress the case right now? Why does it matter for YOU if other players fear giving an opinion? I hope you realise that the odds of you dying tonight from scum is non existant basically. Oh, I'm not worried about myself dieing to anything but a vig. However, I seem to be the most likely candidate now that marv is dead and gone. I want this issue fresh when people come back to it so there is no excuse for them to neglect to comment on your/wbg's case. How can you guys not see Hopeless as scum? He claims that he is the MOST likely lynch target for tomorrow despite almost everyone who commented on it dissmisses it as ''not so scummy''? Can you really see a town motivation for this? Also, your reasoning is crap once again. I'm afk for a while. I'm sorry, should I have qualified with "one of..."? There are cases on MZ, Sentinel, 2 cases on me, Lamp's list of blurbs and general feeling behind lynching CC and shooting tube. In addition there's a load of waffle about whether Palmar being wrong makes him scum (it makes him scum- my) and some general shitflinging to no avail. Discussing ME and the cases against me is in my opinion a good thing for town, and since the thread generally dies at night (in addition to it being a weekend) I'd rather wait until Day in order to do it. Like you said, I`m not going to die, so what`s the hurry? Sure, you are going to live till tomorrow. But why WOULDN'T you post your response now? The faster you post the more time we have to discuss the matter, which surely you would want if you were town. But your not. I'm done with you. I don't bother to convince scum that he is scum.
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Also marv being dead and town makes me want to lynch MZ even more tomorrow. And yes, MZ, I have read your filter, and it's true that you were just following the thread trends during D1. That's blending in, and it's part of the scum life ^^
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