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On October 10 2012 13:33 kushm4sta wrote:
@ DP WHen the FUCK did i claim VT?? i never claimed vt
On October 10 2012 07:51 kushm4sta wrote:
the fuck? I just logged on to see this garbage from VE. I'm vanilla town not mafia coroner.
The thing is it doesn't make sense that a mafia would give up their life just to lynch me. This is why I think it's possible someone framed me maybe.
You are lying or bad. Burn him with fire.
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On October 10 2012 13:38 kushm4sta wrote:
oh vt is vanilla town?? lol i thought it stood for vetern
So you claimed Veteran? And then you claimed Vanilla Town?
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Ebwop: Never mind. I guess I really am bad rofl.
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On October 10 2012 13:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
He claimed vanilla town, and then later claimed "concerned citizen" after I, like a dumbass, revealed the name of Coag's role.
On October 10 2012 13:44 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry but I thought of myself as vanilla town, not a "concerned citizen" and I had to look at my role pm to remember exactly what my official name was.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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From the name. I would think it is some form of investigative role. Nothing particularly stands out.
Coroner from mafia scum. Looks irrelevant to me.
All we know is that you are scum. So unless you would like to tell us what your role does. this setup speculation is pointless.
Anyway. I am off to the gym and soccer (football) training.
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On October 10 2012 14:03 Z-BosoN wrote:
Kush, you are acting a lot more townie this game when confronted to a lynch.
I find it weird how DP is making no mention of this, since he's the "kush expert" here
I have mentioned it. I have also mentioned how he is aware of his meta and has employed it in WIFOM bombing me. So he could easily have changed it. And lets be honest. Getting caught so fast last game would have been an obvious catalyst for working on an incredibly transparent meta.
This is not the first time he has been confronted with pressure and I would have originally thought this was a town tell for kush. I even had a town read on him when I replaced in. But his WIFOM against me showed a willingness to both abuse and alter his meta. To the point where I don;t feel it is enough to clear him Especially with the multiple scummy things he has done.
Also. If you feel that kush is town. Then you should unvote him. Voting for someone and then protesting that vote is scummy as fuck.
In fact. The biggest thing that makes me wary of lynching Kush is that you seem to be trying to milk town cred if Kush flips green.
In fact. That is very very scummy.
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On October 10 2012 14:17 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 14:12 DarthPunk wrote:On October 10 2012 14:03 Z-BosoN wrote:
Kush, you are acting a lot more townie this game when confronted to a lynch.
I find it weird how DP is making no mention of this, since he's the "kush expert" here I have mentioned it. I have also mentioned how he is aware of his meta and has employed it in WIFOM bombing me. So he could easily have changed it. And lets be honest. Getting caught so fast last game would have been an obvious catalyst for working on an incredibly transparent meta. This is not the first time he has been confronted with pressure and I would have originally thought this was a town tell for kush. I even had a town read on him when I replaced in. But his WIFOM against me showed a willingness to both abuse and alter his meta. To the point where I don;t feel it is enough to clear him Especially with the multiple scummy things he has done. Also. If you feel that kush is town. Then you should unvote him. Voting for someone and then protesting that vote is scummy as fuck. In fact. The biggest thing that makes me wary of lynching Kush is that you seem to be trying to milk town cred if Kush flips green. In fact. That is very very scummy. First off, I'm getting the feeling that he could be town. Obviously not enough to shit on VE's claim and unvote him. Also, you are tunneling him hard, but then you make no concession that he is playing differently once he got confronted. Also, you are actually taking into consideration the possibility of me milking cred from him --> so you acknowledge the possibility of him being town? Yes or no?
Of course it is possible that he has been framed. I don't find it likely. But it is possible. Kush is someone I already wanted to lynch who then gets a cop check come back red and then you say it is strange I don't think he is town. That somehow failing to see how townie that Kush is and pressuring him is 'weird' .
That is just suspicious as fuck. And is the thing which brings the most doubt into my mind about kush.
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On October 10 2012 14:42 Z-BosoN wrote:For contrasting purposes. First view on kush: Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 20:18 DarthPunk wrote:
About Kush's analysis. That is beyond anything I have seen from him in terms of actual quality analysis in the 3 games of his I obs'd and the 2 I have since played with him. It is a striking difference from that play and even the play in this game.
Either he is improving in his play. or he is being coached in the QT. I find both plausible at this point and certainly don;t want to lynch him for sound analysis.
That being said. I do want to lynch him for All the reasons I have already brought up. What the fuck is this post right here? I don't want to lynch him for these reasons. I want to lynch him for those reasons. Why the hell is he even bringing that up? This flimsiness is characteristic of scum. Especially DarthPunk. In XXVIII when he got tunnel vision on kush, he didn't even begin to make a concession of any type. So right now, he's made clear he wants to lynch kush, despite him showing improved play (for some reason, he feels it's necessary to mention this).
I was responding to the post by promethelax directly above mine. That is why I made this statement. The difference between this game and the last game are that Last game Kush made a large scumslip. This game he has not.
On October 10 2012 14:42 Z-BosoN wrote:Afterwards: Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 17:28 DarthPunk wrote:On October 09 2012 17:20 kushm4sta wrote:
DP and VE have me voted.. seriously. I realized I'm biased but from my perspective I seem pretty damn green.
Marv defending me means nothing. If that is your primary reasons for voting me then that is weak and you know it.
DP your primary reason for voting me is that I fucked with you? You don't see how that is something a town or scum kush could have done? If anything it's a null tell.
Look at my play, if you can bear to drudge through my filter.
@VE your activity has been really bad and if you are town I doubt you put much thought into this vote. Why would you vote for an outlier candidate instead of a popular one? You haven't done of the legwork to make a case against me and convince others. You Employed WIFOM against me in order to mask your scum slips and meta. By intentionally making scum slips and employing your scum meta. It is the scummiest thing that has happened in this thread. And bvy god you should have been lynched for it days ago. It even caused ToutEstChaos to change his mind and make you his number one scum read. A confirmed town thinks you were the most likely scum. You shat all over the thread. You have barely scum hunted despite a lengthy filter. You have proven that you are aware of your meta so that is now useless. You employed Wifom to mask your scumslips and scum meta. Marv defended you before he was caught. Hapa defended you before he was caught. As soon as you became toutEstchaos' number one scum read he died. The only argument in your favor comes from a suspicious player in his own right. And is comprised of pure WIFOM and speculation. I have not voted for you so now you are lying or not reading. And the case against you is far more than you 'fucking with me' which in itself is far to simplistic an explanation. Then ends with this post: Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 08:36 DarthPunk wrote:On October 10 2012 08:35 kushm4sta wrote:
gg dp. If I flip town will you admit that you are bad? because that would almost make it worth it. LOL. So bad I caught you twice in a row. You are not flipping town. Obviously. Also: Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 08:41 DarthPunk wrote:On October 10 2012 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
dp this is important: if I flip town are you bad? You aren't flipping town kush. Now what's interesting about this is that he finds me scummy for including the possibility that kush may flip town. If he thinks kush will flip scum, for sure, as he says, why is he targeting me for considering this possibility?. One may think that he thinks I'm trying to defend my scumbuddy. But that's not what he includes here: Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 14:12 DarthPunk wrote:On October 10 2012 14:03 Z-BosoN wrote:
Kush, you are acting a lot more townie this game when confronted to a lynch.
I find it weird how DP is making no mention of this, since he's the "kush expert" here I have mentioned it. I have also mentioned how he is aware of his meta and has employed it in WIFOM bombing me. So he could easily have changed it. And lets be honest. Getting caught so fast last game would have been an obvious catalyst for working on an incredibly transparent meta. This is not the first time he has been confronted with pressure and I would have originally thought this was a town tell for kush. I even had a town read on him when I replaced in. But his WIFOM against me showed a willingness to both abuse and alter his meta. To the point where I don;t feel it is enough to clear him Especially with the multiple scummy things he has done. Also. If you feel that kush is town. Then you should unvote him. Voting for someone and then protesting that vote is scummy as fuck. In fact. The biggest thing that makes me wary of lynching Kush is that you seem to be trying to milk town cred if Kush flips green.In fact. That is very very scummy. So, Darthpunk, are you or are you not sure that he is scum? You attack me for considering that he might be townie, yet you make that same consideration yourself? Very weird. Very weird indeed.
I was sure when VE claimed a red check. I was less sure when I acknowledged the possibility of a framer. Unlike scum I odn;t know 100% what kush's alignment is so there is always some element of doubt. I don't see why this makes me scum.
On October 10 2012 14:42 Z-BosoN wrote:Also, his only scumhunting from the last three pages is this list: Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 16:20 DarthPunk wrote:
Also. Where the fuck are:
Shiao Pi
Mattchew
BloodyC0bbler
These are experienced players that have had almost zero thread presence since I replaced in to the game.
I mean I think Kush is scummy as shit. But at least he is making a contribution and posting. Even if his posts are crap. They exist and he has thread presence.
And a couple of other aggressive cases against ShiaoPi. He also reiterates the meta arguments brought up by our smurfy friend ToutEstChaos. Another useless post: Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 11:03 DarthPunk wrote:
I have to agree with Keirathi about sloosh. Even as 3rd party he contributed more than he has this game. And he even pushed a case on scum S&B. This game I barely even know he is playing. He hasn't really scum hunted and combined with switching off the node wagon back to shady he looks very suspicious.
I also agree that it is strange for hapa to have pushed risk so hard if he was town. I know this is somewhat WIFOM. But I don't see the point of Immediately pushing your scum buddy after you lose marv.
I feel Like VE fits into that whole group of scummy/lurking vets.
BC
Matt
Sloosh
VE etc.
They can't all be scum. But out of that group I think Matt and Sloosh look the worst.
Also Shiao Pi continues to lurk so I don;t know wtf is up with him. Yeah his meta has him sort of inactive. But not as badly as this game. It could be a by product of the boring past cycles. But I would be watching him.
So DP has spent much of the last three pages in his filtering tunneling kush, and made some posts that seem more like he's giving off the impression he wants to scumhunt without generally doing so. He's also criticizing me for something he himself noted earlier on, but quickly changed his mind on the subject. It seems to me like he's seizing the opportunity to use kush as an excuse to not bother reading the thread. His "suspicion" on me seems fake as all hell, and I think he's scum.
LOL. In case you missed it the last two cycles had mod confirmed scum. I have done far more scum hunting than most of the people in this game, but I too am susceptible to the boredom from having confirmed lynches. I am not tunnelling Kush. This is a misconception that people used against me falsely last game also. I think he is scum so then I focus on getting him lynched. I have made cases and observations on others despite the impotence involved with the last two lynches.
I fail to see anything that makes me scummy to be honest. Your case feels weak and like an OMGUS more than anything.
On October 10 2012 14:42 Z-BosoN wrote:
#Fos DarthPunk [/quote]
OK.
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On October 10 2012 16:49 Z-BosoN wrote:
I ensure it? Why the hell did I ensure it?
You are using the time stamp of the taly if you think I actually knew what the vote count was. My thinking was merely this:
I don't want either of these to die. Thus, I will not vote for either of these.
PERIOD.
I didn't have a clue what the vote count was, what my actions would result in. Frankly, with 50 min prior to the lynch, with 3 people left to vote, with ppl unvoting and voting left and right, I didn't even bother.
Is this so hard to grasp?
The thing is this kind of thinking seems one dimensional. And is frankly beneath the play I know you to be capable of.
You come off as a realist. Rather than an Idealist.
A realist would say. I know one of the two major wagons is going to get lynched therefore I decide which I feel is towniest and vote for their opponent.
An idealist would say. Who cares what the actual circumstances are. I will vote for neither because I fell neither should be lynched. And then happily throw away their vote achieving nothing at all.
I have played several games with you. And I know for a fact that you consider the circumstances of a situation when playing. This wasted vote makes far more sense for you as a calculated play. Than some expression of whimsical idealism via a trashed vote.
I think you are smarter than that.
FoS: Z - Boson
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On October 10 2012 19:53 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 03:54 Mattchew wrote:
can we lynch bloodyclob for being alive? we can lynch you for playing in alignment with your scum meta.
lol. I miss all of Matt's posts. It would be crap if he was scum and won via afk.
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On October 10 2012 21:54 Mattchew wrote:
hey im not afk right this second
##Vote Kushm4sta
Why are you AFK and conforming to your scum meta?
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On October 10 2012 21:59 Mattchew wrote:
honestly? look at the last 3 days (i honestly thought i voted hapa) but theres been no real necessary discussion. lynch marv, hapa, kush. We aren't lynching off analysis or discussion, we are lynching off of roles and setup ish.
So your answer is to let town die with lack of discussion? What happens when we aren;t dictated to by blue roles and we have a town full of AFK vets?
Who are your top reads and why. What do you think Of VE's case on Z-Boson? What do you think of Z-Bosons case on Me?
It is not like there has been nothing to comment on. Seems like a pretty weak excuse to me.
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On October 10 2012 22:38 Mattchew wrote:
just because i am not concerned does this not make me a citizen?!
but srsly has anything posted other than ve's claim been useful?
and sloosh is clearly scum trying to earlier push the BC 3rd party lynch
Then make a case on sloosh if it is so clearly there.
I thought you said there was nothing to discuss?
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On October 11 2012 10:04 kushm4sta wrote:
##vote ve
not my biggest scumread but it's his fault im dying.
If you really are town you should be pushing your biggest scum read. That gives us something to go off when you flip.
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On October 11 2012 10:15 kushm4sta wrote:
already did bra... check the filter. Z BO I said it millions and millions of times.
also remember our agreement remember it./
Then you should be clear about it by voting him and posting a strong case on him.
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On October 11 2012 10:27 Coagulation wrote:
im pretty sure kush is town now..
Yeah, He seems pretty townie in the face of death. Who would you rather lynch?
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On October 11 2012 10:29 iamperfection wrote:
anyone up for..... dare i say it..... some last minute shenanigans.
We have an hour and a half. And all the votes are on kush. I think it will be difficult. But something feels off about kush's behaviour in comparison to both marv and hapa and kush's meta. So I am up for it.
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On October 11 2012 10:35 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:On October 11 2012 10:27 Coagulation wrote:
im pretty sure kush is town now.. Yeah, He seems pretty townie in the face of death. Who would you rather lynch? So now you are saying that huh? Didn't that make me scummy?
I am not using it to get a mislynch buddy. Like you did.
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I have misgivings on this lynch. But it is probably better play to just verify the cop claim. Like I think the optimal play is to lynch the red check. But I am not 100% on that. :/
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