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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 03 2012 23:06 GMT
#1056
HI. Got told I was replacing in at 3am last night. I need to catch up with the thread so I will be doing that now. ^_^

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 01:12 GMT
#1105
LOL. Just read the day post.

##Vote: Marvellosity
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 03:09 GMT
#1121
Up to Page 48. I am pretty bummed marv decided to Troll/WIFOM/Shit up the thread so badly. It makes this much more arduous a task.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#1131
On October 04 2012 11:56 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 11:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On October 04 2012 11:31 slOosh wrote:
Ah I see. It's scary when you do it without explaining like you now did because you might be doing some high level scum play given your reputation.

Then let's talk about the list. I think kush is town based on his demeanor (throwing up thoughts onto thread without the scummy tendency to double check / review). Your turn.


Er? Its scummy thing to recheck / review? I don't do that ever unless I am town making some epic post by post analysis.

I think he could easily be mafia given his interactions with people, his odd post that he just made

On October 04 2012 11:15 kushm4sta wrote:
im so town though


This may just be the living up in a household with a mother who is an english major, but using the word "so" as he did seems weird to me.

However throwing ones thoughts into the thread mean near jackshit when you look at the last three pages of his filter have been basically none useful. I don't see solid reasoning for reads, I see summarizing of other peoples shit, spam, and the same.

I honestly believe if someone is active like he has been this game there should be real content in his filter, and honestly I am not seeing it.


That's him as townie, and that's him as scum. Unfortunately it's either vig or policy lynch for him.
I think he fits his town meta a bit more then his scum meta, but I could be wrong here. Would be nice if someone who's played witih him, such as kreb (I think?) could attest to this.


Yeah. From what I read before I replaced in and during the 30 odd pages I just went through this morning. I am leaning towards a townie Kush this game. I mean kush is always scummy as town but there is a marked difference between his Town meta and his scum meta. And he has played a lot closer to his town meta this game than he did in XXVIII.

That being said. Maybe he finally heeded Hapa's advice and worked on his scum play. But right now I don't like a Kush lynch.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 03:30 GMT
#1132
EBWOP:

On October 04 2012 12:04 kushm4sta wrote:
This z-boso kid is making me angry.
VIG or POLICY LYNCH me?? Wtf am i doing wrong? I have NOT been trolling at all. I have NOT been raging. I've been doing my best so go away and continue shitting up this thread with your useless thoughts that are always wrong.


Nevermind. This is kush's scum meta.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 03:31 GMT
#1133
On October 04 2012 12:06 kushm4sta wrote:
Triple post apologize for spam.
Also if I get lynched can it please be darthpenguin (the replacement guy) who leads the bandwagon. I want poetic justice.


LOL. DarthPenguin? you are butthurt from our previous game. But please keep it in the obs QT <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 03:34 GMT
#1134
On October 04 2012 12:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 12:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Up to Page 48. I am pretty bummed marv decided to Troll/WIFOM/Shit up the thread so badly. It makes this much more arduous a task.




Scum. I think. Anyone else wanna check my math?


Yeah. Obviously marv is scum and that is why he is trolling. 0_o Unless you are calling me scum?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 03:36 GMT
#1136
On October 04 2012 12:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 12:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Up to Page 48. I am pretty bummed marv decided to Troll/WIFOM/Shit up the thread so badly. It makes this much more arduous a task.




Sup! It's like you are back from the dead.
He's playing to his wincon =/
How's mkfuba looking compared to his XXIV?

HI <3

No idea. He died really early in XXIV and was pretty much inactive. So yeah. I can't make a meta read on him. He is posting Vastly more than he did in that game though.

I have found someone who is interesting though. Post incoming.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 03:36 GMT
#1137
OH and if the burst of activity didn't tell you. I just finished reading the ~37 pages I needed to catch up on.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 04:10 GMT
#1141
Keirathi

Super scummy. He came out of the gates really aggressively towards several people. He makes a lot of noise commenting on their anti-town play.
On October 02 2012 04:24 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 04:22 kushm4sta wrote:
Stop shitting on me. They aren't logic loops... like im trying to do logic and failing. It's just me not giving a shit about logic I assure you.

Then stop playing shitty and do you job as town and lynch scum, not somebody who you think is town but has bullied you in the past. Thats fucking worthless, ffs.



On October 02 2012 04:24 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 04:22 kushm4sta wrote:
Stop shitting on me. They aren't logic loops... like im trying to do logic and failing. It's just me not giving a shit about logic I assure you.

Then stop playing shitty and do you job as town and lynch scum, not somebody who you think is town but has bullied you in the past. Thats fucking worthless, ffs.


On October 02 2012 04:24 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 04:22 kushm4sta wrote:
Stop shitting on me. They aren't logic loops... like im trying to do logic and failing. It's just me not giving a shit about logic I assure you.

Then stop playing shitty and do you job as town and lynch scum, not somebody who you think is town but has bullied you in the past. Thats fucking worthless, ffs.


I would quote more but they are in his filter and there is alot of this. He is not actually contributing. Just criticising the play of others. Not scum hunting just telling people that they are bad/anti-town.


The only Semblance of scum hunting from keir is this OMGUS vote on KingJames on day one.

On October 01 2012 10:25 Keirathi wrote:
As far as KJ, I just want to say that I wasn't even getting defensive. I was legitimately trying to figure out his thinking, and explain myself. That he got defensive to my questions, and then decided on a wishy-washy stance rather than taking a firm opinion and trying to explain himself make me question his motives. Just throwing mud out for the sake of appearing like he was contributing?

For now: ##Vote: kingjame01



And this follow up when questioned.

On October 02 2012 04:28 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, I don't think the whole "spies" thing was a scum slip by KJ. I was curious why he said it, which was why I asked. I totally buy his explanation.

That doesn't change the fact that I still don't like his wishy-washy attitude earlier in the game, nor how he picked Mementoss from all the other lurkers/non-contributors.


He has a 3 page filter that is mostly telling people how bad they are and not scum hunting. He criticises the play of Kush at length even though he has readily admitted that is part of his meta, and has a town read on him. He spends comparatively little time on actual scum hunting or questioning the person he voted for. He leaves his vote on KJ despite huge voting activity at deadline and It becomes meaningless. In spite of saying this earlier

On October 01 2012 12:27 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: For that matter, why do you need to leave your vote parked on someone anyways?

Your vote is your means of pressuring someone and getting a response. If your vote is meaningless all game, no one is going to care about it and feel the need to justify themselves to you. You're basically giving up your only power as a townie for some contrived need of having your vote out.


After the lack of scum hunting and his meaningless vote on KJ. He saunters back into the thread and drops this vote on Marv and continues his pattern on commenting almost solely on byplay and doing zero scum hunting.



On October 03 2012 14:17 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: Formatting. And damnit, I'm slow.

Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 14:00 BlackMamba24 wrote:
Risen the Paramedic is dead.

You are the Paramedic. You can target a player to save at night and if they are targeted for a hit, you will revive them. However, if you target someone in the mafia, you will be killed.



Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 11:18 Risen wrote:
I'm going to sleep now, so I won't be awake for day post unless I wake up/can't sleep. If I die kill marv (not a joke, not wifom bait, kill him)


##vote: marvellosity




Couple of things stand out about this vote on marv.
He actually bothers to explain his vote. Even though it is blatantly clear why people would vote for him. He feels the need to explain it anyway.

He expresses displeasure in not being faster to vote for marv. You know who cares about in which order they vote for someone. Scum. That's who.

I have played with Keir before when he was town. This is not how he started at all. Not even close.

FoS: Keirathi
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 04:19 GMT
#1144
On October 04 2012 13:12 kushm4sta wrote:
@darthpenguin
You quoted the same thing 3 times in a row in the beginning.


Oh. lol.

I can quote some more or you could just, you know, read his entire filter.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 07:06 GMT
#1162
On October 04 2012 14:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Keirathi

Super scummy. He came out of the gates really aggressively towards several people. He makes a lot of noise commenting on their anti-town play.

Not several people. Just kush. Because I thought kush was town based on his demeanor, but his voting and play was distinctly anti-town. I spent a lot of time trying to make him see that. But I should have just shut up and let him play stupidly? Okay.

You did it to shady and risen also. So no not just kush. But honestly. It doesn't really matter how many people you use to hide the fact you are not contributing.

On October 04 2012 14:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:
I would quote more but they are in his filter and there is alot of this. He is not actually contributing. Just criticising the play of others. Not scum hunting just telling people that they are bad/anti-town.

Nothing I can really say about that. It's pretty true. After questioning KJ, I felt comfortable in my scum read of him. So I spent the rest of my time questioning other people and berating kush.


Let's be honest here. You barely questioned him. You would look less scummy if you had actually bothered to contribute more than you did. I am not satisfied with that explanation.


On October 04 2012 14:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:He leaves his vote on KJ despite huge voting activity at deadline and It becomes meaningless. In spite of saying this earlier

On October 01 2012 12:27 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: For that matter, why do you need to leave your vote parked on someone anyways?

Your vote is your means of pressuring someone and getting a response. If your vote is meaningless all game, no one is going to care about it and feel the need to justify themselves to you. You're basically giving up your only power as a townie for some contrived need of having your vote out.


After the lack of scum hunting and his meaningless vote on KJ.

What you probably didn't pick up on just by reading my filter (or maybe intentionally misrepresenting?), is the timing of my posts. Go back and look at my last post on day 1. It was 9 hours before the deadline (and 32 hours before my next post). That's because I took an unplanned trip out of town and didn't have internet. My vote might have been meaningless at the end of the day, but when I left it wasn't (KJ had the majority). There was literally nothing I could have done because I didn't have internet access to keep up with the game.


You didn't say anything in the thread. I can't be expected to know or assume that you are out of town if you leave the thread. lol. Even if you were part of a lynch majority I would still argue your vote was meaningless because of the token case and scum hunting behind it.

On October 04 2012 14:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Couple of things stand out about this vote on marv.
He actually bothers to explain his vote. Even though it is blatantly clear why people would vote for him. He feels the need to explain it anyway.

He expresses displeasure in not being faster to vote for marv. You know who cares about in which order they vote for someone. Scum. That's who.

ToutEstChaos justified his vote too. Why is the fact that I did it scummier than the fact that he did it?

Also, the "Damnit, I'm slow" comment was because, when I first read the daypost, no one had commented on the reason Risen had died, nor voted marv yet. So I quoted Risen's death, then started trying to find the post where Risen had said to kill marv when he died. By the time I had finished, Tout had already beat me to the explanation. Basically you're saying that it would have been townier for me to first vote marv, 10 minutes after the day post, with 0 explanation. I don't buy that. It would be like the people who took flak for hopping on Matt without explanation in LVII after his Nosy Neighbor claim.


That is a fair explanation. I always view people who feel they need to provide explanations for their vote in even the most obvious situations as scummier than those that drop a vote and leave. But I can understand your point and don't think this point was particularly strong or necessary to the case against you. It just struck me as odd for the afore mentioned reason.
On October 04 2012 14:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:
I have played with Keir before when he was town. This is not how he started at all. Not even close.

FoS: Keirathi

This is reasonable, but a question: have you read my scum game (GSL Open Mini Mafia 1) for reference? I mean, sure I'm aware that I played a reasonably "good" scum game in that, so if I wanted to play differently I could. But would I really go for the extreme opposite end of the spectrum? From "good" scum, to terrible and easily caught?

Anyways, I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to lynch me tomorrow. I lost some of my interest after having to catch up with 24+ hours of two different games.
[/quote]

Wow. This is a horrible argument. Yep my FoS stands. Matyring + WIFOM + using meta to clear yourself. Ugh.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 07:16 GMT
#1164
On October 04 2012 16:01 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 11:56 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 04 2012 11:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On October 04 2012 11:31 slOosh wrote:
Ah I see. It's scary when you do it without explaining like you now did because you might be doing some high level scum play given your reputation.

Then let's talk about the list. I think kush is town based on his demeanor (throwing up thoughts onto thread without the scummy tendency to double check / review). Your turn.


Er? Its scummy thing to recheck / review? I don't do that ever unless I am town making some epic post by post analysis.

I think he could easily be mafia given his interactions with people, his odd post that he just made

On October 04 2012 11:15 kushm4sta wrote:
im so town though


This may just be the living up in a household with a mother who is an english major, but using the word "so" as he did seems weird to me.

However throwing ones thoughts into the thread mean near jackshit when you look at the last three pages of his filter have been basically none useful. I don't see solid reasoning for reads, I see summarizing of other peoples shit, spam, and the same.

I honestly believe if someone is active like he has been this game there should be real content in his filter, and honestly I am not seeing it.


That's him as townie, and that's him as scum. Unfortunately it's either vig or policy lynch for him.
I think he fits his town meta a bit more then his scum meta, but I could be wrong here. Would be nice if someone who's played witih him, such as kreb (I think?) could attest to this.

Only played with him as town. First day I think he was a bit more spazzy than usual, which I also pointed out. Since then, I'd say he fits his town meta pretty well. It could be a case of him understanding he needs to tone himself down a bit as scum though, and theres others things happening which also has made him look a bit scummy. But if I were to push him as scum, I probably wont use meta as a strong part of my argument. That said, Thrawn seemed to disagree with that in the small time he was in the thread.


Well I partially used meta to catch him day one in my previous game. So I am keeping it in my mind for sure with Kush. The thing with kush is that he posts so frequently that he will slip. The other thing is that he slips as town. I think you need to look at the whole picture with kush.

What happened to thrawn BTW?

Oh and @ frenchCaos

Why am I? and what is a Beggerman? lol.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 07:18 GMT
#1165
On October 04 2012 16:15 ToutEstChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 15:57 kushm4sta wrote:
##fos toutestchaos
1 manufactured case
2 pushing everyone to comment on your manufactured case
This line in particular jumps out at me as poor reasoning:

The reasoning is located in the body of the argument. The sentence itself contains no reasoning, so how can that LINE be guilty of poor reasoning?


1) wrote good case
2) promoted town discussion
3) interesting that you exempted the line in question in your quotation. Allow me to reproduce it in full for you:

Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 11:32 ToutEstChaos wrote:
This line in particular jumps out at me as poor reasoning:
>fuba was more or less following marv during day 1 play,

This is not what scum does to other scum. Come on, you've all played scum. This wasn't a scum fuba following scum marv. Look at Marv's previous scumgames. He wouldn't let shit like that happen. This is a scared town fuba in a big game deciding to attach his lips to the ass of the strongest, biggest, most familiar vet he could find: Marv.


Huh, that's interesting. So your question:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 15:57 kushm4sta wrote:
The sentence itself contains no reasoning, so how can that LINE be guilty of poor reasoning?


Was actually already answered by the CONTEXT of the line that you cherrypicked to quote (twice I might add). What's the deal, kush? If you're gonna FoS a guy, at least do your homework. If you slack off how do you expect to contribute to the town?


I am inclined to agree with ToutEstChaos.

Scum would never sheep other scum that hard. And Fuba probably was sheeping a very good player whom he had a town read on.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 07:27 GMT
#1167
On October 04 2012 16:06 kushm4sta wrote:
i am like the townest person in this game ATM


Oh look. Calling yourself town. Just like last game :/
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 04 2012 10:53 GMT
#1171
On October 04 2012 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
hi guise!


Hi Bill Murray!
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 01:36 GMT
#1209
Meh. There is no point trying to work with marv kush. He is scum and has impure motives. He could say someone is third party and then lead us onto a mislynch.
Just ignore him. and all his WIFOM.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 01:55 GMT
#1211
On October 04 2012 21:03 Keirathi wrote:
@DP: the simplest answer is most often the right one.


What is this supposed to Imply? I agree that the simplest answer is generally the right one but I fail to understand how that applies in this situation at all. And honestly I would expect more from a town Keirathi than a one liner response.

Relying on one scum game of yours to somehow clear your very scummy behaviour is not an acceptable defense. Nor is it reasonable for me to believe you.

Honestly this is not how you play to your town meta. So if you want us to look at your meta. How about we look at your town meta and see how this play doesn't match that at all.

Seriously. You tell everyone else they are bad/anti town. When this is the worst/most anti town play I have seen from you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 01:57 GMT
#1213
On October 04 2012 12:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 12:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 04 2012 12:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Up to Page 48. I am pretty bummed marv decided to Troll/WIFOM/Shit up the thread so badly. It makes this much more arduous a task.




Scum. I think. Anyone else wanna check my math?


Yeah. Obviously marv is scum and that is why he is trolling. 0_o Unless you are calling me scum?



OK VE. You have been asked twice now and have ignored the question. What did you mean with this post.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 02:34 GMT
#1219
On October 05 2012 11:09 kushm4sta wrote:
What did VE mean that post:
it's obvious and completely null to me.
DP was talking about how he got to the part with all the marv trolling.
VE says he thinks marv might be scum. It's a sarcastic joke.

I know you wanted VE to answer but I want him to use his limited time to address things that really matter.


Yeah. You know I can't tell sarcasm over text. I told you that last game. I just don't see why VE wouldn't take the time to make a one line clarification when multiple people ask for it. Oh well.
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