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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 02 2012 23:20 GMT
#761
On October 03 2012 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 08:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On October 03 2012 08:09 marvellosity wrote:
On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

This stands out to me for one major reason. It makes perfect sense for mafia to push node as a distraction case regardless of the fact shady flipped green. Ask VE or Node if they remember a game in the high 30's or low 40s run by FW with the weird mason mechanic (each player could mason any two players they chose but only two players) where on day 3 or 4 as mafia my entire team sat firmly on two sides of a townie vs townie lynch pushing each.

Also pushing node as a "distraction" case would be perfect if austin is red. Why? Because it got heat off himself.

However, this is me merely clearing up something I find instantly wrong and misleading.



Yes, that's one way to look at it; on the flip side, the right thing for austin to do as townie is to make reads and push things like he did, and like Node very much did not. How are you reading the both of them? I find austin quite townie now.

talismania - What is your current read on VE? Do you still think he is scum?


He had to to avoid being lynched. As townie or mafia he had to do what he did. I find him less scummy then he was before, however it doesn't mean he doesn't still get my gaze for only pushing someone when his ass was on the line. I more stated what I did because of how you stated your post I responded to which basically stated mafia wouldn't do what he did, or have a reason to push a second townie candidate. Making a case on a terrible poster as mafia or pushing a lynch on a bad scum player on ones team is standard play.



Ok, I get where you're coming from. I experienced similar with austin in the very last game I played with him. I voted for him on Day 1 for only talking about himself for a while then completely afking for ages when there was tonnes going on in the thread, but it turned out he was being lazy/dumb whatever, which is why I was so antsy about it this game. His contributions look more thought out, researched and I guess not-skewed than what I'd expect from scum, and I see them as good contributions.


I do and don't. I feel his case on node was hasty and well, not great. I feel his posting since however has improved. I still think the entire lynch period was weird as hell with how it operated at the end. However I don't feel he should be shot or lynched tommorrow currently which I would say is a bonus for him.

I am fine with either happening to mattchew now though. He has done nothing to make me think he is town and is only making me believe he is scum.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2012 23:22 GMT
#762
Mattchew: I think you're nitpicking at slOosh's case when the main thrust of it was similar to what I wrote. Coming back with nice paragraphs about how things went down Day 1 after the fact is very nice and all, but it's all after the fact, when it's a bit late. Somewhat nullish on slOosh because I want him to post more, but he shared similar views to me on you.

With BC, I don't like how he came in, contributed, and left, but that doesn't seem that unusual. When he was here he seemed concerned with actually finding scum, whereas my memory of seeing him play scum last is that he didn't focus on that at all. Comparing him to a different player in Bureaucracy doesn't seem relevant.

And yeah, annul is definitely scummy. I detest him objecting to pretty much every candidate just on the way the wagon went and not pushing people properly himself.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 02 2012 23:24 GMT
#763
Wtf is going on in this thread...it has turned into a giant circle jerk down memory lane.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 02 2012 23:30 GMT
#764
On October 03 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:
Mattchew: I think you're nitpicking at slOosh's case when the main thrust of it was similar to what I wrote. Coming back with nice paragraphs about how things went down Day 1 after the fact is very nice and all, but it's all after the fact, when it's a bit late. Somewhat nullish on slOosh because I want him to post more, but he shared similar views to me on you.

With BC, I don't like how he came in, contributed, and left, but that doesn't seem that unusual. When he was here he seemed concerned with actually finding scum, whereas my memory of seeing him play scum last is that he didn't focus on that at all. Comparing him to a different player in Bureaucracy doesn't seem relevant.

And yeah, annul is definitely scummy. I detest him objecting to pretty much every candidate just on the way the wagon went and not pushing people properly himself.

nice paragraphs about yesterday? i merely answered your questions
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
October 02 2012 23:30 GMT
#765
So my read on annul right now is slight scum. His early interaction with austin regarding the interpretation of Node's defense felt genuine, though the conclusion he came to was odd. The way he interprets Node's post makes little sense to me. I can barely wrap my head around what he believes Node was trying to say, and from what I understand of it, I don't see why Node would say it in the first place. I definitely interpret Node's post as more of a defense than some sort of prediction of Shady's future play, and the defense was completely unjustified.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 02 2012 23:32 GMT
#766
To these people saying annul should be Vig not lynched:
Please explain why.

No one has made a better case than the many against annul.
Why not save Vig for the endgame when we have more information and better reads?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 02 2012 23:36 GMT
#767
On October 03 2012 08:32 kushm4sta wrote:
To these people saying annul should be Vig not lynched:
Please explain why.

No one has made a better case than the many against annul.
Why not save Vig for the endgame when we have more information and better reads?


I prefer shooting players who are

A) Hard to read
B) perform badly or trolly or whatever else you want to call it while being active
C) disruptive but not helpful

He hasn't had any massive scumslip and thus I believe offing him without wasting a day lynching him is better. If he flips scum its helpful and if he flips town it sucks but removes a disruptive player and stops us from spending 2 days discussing him / the day of talk after if he flips town.

That is how I operate usually on vig shots unless its a policy shot.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2012 23:39 GMT
#768
On October 03 2012 08:30 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:
Mattchew: I think you're nitpicking at slOosh's case when the main thrust of it was similar to what I wrote. Coming back with nice paragraphs about how things went down Day 1 after the fact is very nice and all, but it's all after the fact, when it's a bit late. Somewhat nullish on slOosh because I want him to post more, but he shared similar views to me on you.

With BC, I don't like how he came in, contributed, and left, but that doesn't seem that unusual. When he was here he seemed concerned with actually finding scum, whereas my memory of seeing him play scum last is that he didn't focus on that at all. Comparing him to a different player in Bureaucracy doesn't seem relevant.

And yeah, annul is definitely scummy. I detest him objecting to pretty much every candidate just on the way the wagon went and not pushing people properly himself.

nice paragraphs about yesterday? i merely answered your questions


o.o I guess it's wrong to condemn you for writing so wordily when I was asking you about it, I think it's the reaction of seeing that compared to the.... nothingness during Day 1. Or perhaps worse than nothingness, actually being around and posting pointlessly.

Tell me what you make of Mementoss and talismania?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 02 2012 23:51 GMT
#769
guys good news, I am dead in my other game so I will be putting effort into this one. But now, sleep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
October 02 2012 23:54 GMT
#770
I don't like that mementoss shows up, reiterates a bunch of things that others have said, then parks his vote on someone who is undeniably not being helpful. He then disappears for over a day after saying he was going to search for scum. He also points out that kush wasn't doing anything to push his scumreads and then joins the shadywagon. Then he does pretty much the same thing. Leaning scum.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
October 02 2012 23:56 GMT
#771
EBWOP: I wanted to say something in there about Shady being a pretty easy lynch to hop onto.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 00:02:11
October 02 2012 23:58 GMT
#772
Because no one paid attention to the fact that this was supposed to be a clue game, it is now no longer a clue game. There are no clues present in any way shape or form.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 02 2012 23:59 GMT
#773
On October 03 2012 08:54 mkfuba07 wrote:
I don't like that mementoss shows up, reiterates a bunch of things that others have said, then parks his vote on someone who is undeniably not being helpful. He then disappears for over a day after saying he was going to search for scum. He also points out that kush wasn't doing anything to push his scumreads and then joins the shadywagon. Then he does pretty much the same thing. Leaning scum.


I agree, I pretty much skimmed the thread, and wasn't helpful. I will catch up on the last 15 pages. I will hopefully make it up to the town by doing my best to catch the whole scum team day 2, or at least provoke some good discussion that will allow the players better than me to do so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 03 2012 00:13 GMT
#774
On October 03 2012 06:44 austinmcc wrote:
Node scum.
If node scum, annul and Z-BosoN scum.
mkfuba very scummy.


if node is red, YOU are red, for attempting to set up this false link.

like honestly i have no idea why you are making this play, because as a townie, i will sacrifice myself to net two reds 1000000000% of the time. but far be it from me to stop bad reds from hanging their team
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 03 2012 00:14 GMT
#775
One person I'd like to see more contribution from given the length of his filter is Risen. His filter is actually pretty long (was very surprised to find that, heh) but its mostly very short posts. Agreeing a bit here, disagreeing a bit there and adding a question or two. Whats your top scum reads atm?

Also:
On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
It makes perfect sense for mafia to push node as a distraction case regardless of the fact shady flipped green.

On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also pushing node as a "distraction" case would be perfect if austin is red. Why? Because it got heat off himself.

On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also not sure how the node picked up so much steam the way it did given that the main person pushing said case was under some heat from people and the votes were slowly swinging the way.

Thank you. I was beginning to think I was the only one thinking that way. Not sure what to make of it but its a bit strange no one (not even marv...) questions it when coming from another player. Hmm.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 03 2012 00:14 GMT
#776
On October 03 2012 07:05 Mattchew wrote:
Annul, his 5 page filter has nothing of actual value in terms of reasoning, scum-hunting, or explaining his thought process. He also was extremely active in the hours leading up the lynch and ended up pushing no candidate. Here is annul's last scum game filter, I feel it reads very very similar to his filter this game (link plz click)


i have no idea whether this was my last game or not, it has been so long.

but i implore you, good sir, post my last town game filter too. or my last blue game filter. i bet you they look the same.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 03 2012 00:17 GMT
#777
On October 03 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:
And yeah, annul is definitely scummy. I detest him objecting to pretty much every candidate just on the way the wagon went and not pushing people properly himself.


"pretty much every candidate" = shady and node? hyperbole much?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 03 2012 00:18 GMT
#778
On October 03 2012 08:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
If he flips scum its helpful and if he flips town it sucks but removes a disruptive player .



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"DISRUPTIVE PLAYER"

are you fucking serious?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 03 2012 00:19 GMT
#779
i guess to BC "disruption" is posting cogent arguments and/or defending claims made against yourself
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 03 2012 00:22 GMT
#780
On October 03 2012 09:19 annul wrote:
i guess to BC "disruption" is posting cogent arguments and/or defending claims made against yourself


I actually tend to find near all your posts disruptive -_- I always have. Its like facing a bill murray player but having to fear some form of coherent thought behind the name.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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