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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 04:13 GMT
#1221
On October 05 2012 12:57 mkfuba07 wrote:
The suspense is killing me. I hope we caught scum, guys!


LOL. If the blatant trolling and WIFOM Bombs haven't told you. Marv is 100% scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 15:42 GMT
#1233
On October 06 2012 00:27 kushm4sta wrote:
also ty kreb your suspicion saves me from nk

WOW. ##FoS Kush
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 15:48 GMT
#1235
What is your problem Kush? If this is about last game you should just drop it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 15:53 GMT
#1237
On October 06 2012 00:53 kushm4sta wrote:
shh dont bring it up because then we will have to tell people about it


Too late. Obviously.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 16:16 GMT
#1245
On October 06 2012 01:03 kushm4sta wrote:
Im my experience DP is always like that. Also in pregames though. Some people who are autistic or something don't get sarcasm so maybe that's it.

Scums loving this btw


Yeah. I have trouble discerning sarcasm in text. You know this as we have had this same conversation when you brought it up constantly last game as scum.

Seriously. you are slipping further and further into your scum meta.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 16:17 GMT
#1247
EBWOP:

Also I am not autistic.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 16:22 GMT
#1250
On October 06 2012 01:17 kushm4sta wrote:
I ask him because I know he's being serious and I want to understand how a normal person can be so dumb

Who are your top scum reads atm toutes


How is it dumb to NOT see sarcasm that is text based. Many of the tells of sarcasm are other things. Such as body language, tone of voice etc.

It seems to me that the only way to Interpret what you call sarcastic jokes. Is to assume that people aren;t capable of being stupid. and anything that they say or do is that is obviously stupid is a joke.

I don;t like to make that assumption, In my experience people are more than capable of regular stupidity.

Not making that assumption helped me catch you last game. And It seems that you are bitter about that.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 16:35 GMT
#1251
On October 06 2012 01:08 ToutEstChaos wrote:
Actually, why are you asking him if you already know the answer AND think that doing so is something that scum would love? Why are you even thinking about scum loving or not loving things, or talking about how FoSes will excuse you from getting shot? Getting shot during an early night (sans roleclaim) is probably the highest honor you can claim as a townie.

IGMEOY, kushm4sta.


The whole Night Kill thing is part of his scum meta and he knows it. Furthermore. He he knows I know it. I caught him caught day one last game partially for an identical post. To be honest I feel that he is engaging me in a WIFOM BOMB really hardcore.


On October 06 2012 00:27 kushm4sta wrote:
also ty kreb your suspicion saves me from nk


After kreb calls him not townie. He does something Which he KNOWS I know to be a particular tell for him from our previous game.

On October 06 2012 00:53 kushm4sta wrote:
shh dont bring it up because then we will have to tell people about it


I call him out on it for this reason.
On October 06 2012 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:27 kushm4sta wrote:
also ty kreb your suspicion saves me from nk

WOW. ##FoS Kush



Then WIFOM's at me. Stating that he wants me to lead a bandwagon for this scum tell of his. Even though He KNOWS I know it is a tell.
On October 06 2012 00:47 kushm4sta wrote:
please lead the bandwagon dp please



I mean this is mind fucking me like crazy right now. But why would town Kreb be dropping WIFOM bombs on me?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 16:39 GMT
#1255
On October 06 2012 01:38 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 01:35 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean this is mind fucking me like crazy right now. But why would town Kreb be dropping WIFOM bombs on me?


I think you mean why woudl town KUSH be dropping WIFOM bombs on you.

Partly because I part of me wants you to lynch me and be wrong.
Yes I will stop.


And another.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 16:40 GMT
#1257
On October 06 2012 01:38 kushm4sta wrote:
@ dp+ Show Spoiler +

also i enjoy fucking with you


Yep. You clearly don't give a fuck about town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 16:47 GMT
#1263
On October 06 2012 01:41 kushm4sta wrote:
It's not an assumption I just put it forth as a possibility.
And yes I agree that this is derailing the thread.. unless you think im scum in which case its vital


Now you sound like marv did for the past day cycle. Oh Joy.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 16:58 GMT
#1269
So after My case Keirathi presented a token defense and has since disappeared.

His last post was this.

On October 05 2012 00:13 Keirathi wrote:
The point in making them is for you to do a little research yourself. Seriously. Go look through my scum game. If you still think my mentality is the same, then I deserve the vote, and I'll do whatever I can before I die to clear up my thoughts.


But I don't see him doing whatever he can right now. And I don't feel his previous scum game somehow clears his play this game.

Keirathi 100% does not play like this as town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 17:02 GMT
#1270
Just to follow on. It is certainly plausible that he is just inactive and a bored townie. But this would imply he didn't really care about the game. But I don't believe that is true coming from the person who made this post

On October 01 2012 13:36 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 13:22 kushm4sta wrote:
Yeah shady's arrogance that he thinks he can save us from the trolls (myself included) makes me want to lynch him really badly the more I think about it.
Not for good reasons...I don't need a lecture about it.

If you're not even going to try to play the game, why the fuck did you sign up?


He looks really scummy to me right now.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 17:12 GMT
#1274
On October 06 2012 02:07 kushm4sta wrote:
k my top scum reads now are coag keitheri maybe ve.
coag just jumped on my bandwagon so hard... and his meta is not to be a sheeper.

I'm waiting on this epic ve post.

You said you had no scum read like 20 minutes ago.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 05 2012 17:29 GMT
#1276
On October 06 2012 02:18 kushm4sta wrote:
well I have top people I would vote for but I'm not that sure about any. See I think its very possible keitathi just doesn't give a shit about me. Not giving a shit doesn't mean he can't yell at me for sucking. The badness of my play is the only thing that motivates him to make posts.
I would.not be suprised if he flipped scum.

VE has been so afk that at this point it goes beyond scumtell and into irl issues.

Coag its also hard to know because his actual content is so.little.


But you don't find Shiao Pi scummy?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 06 2012 01:15 GMT
#1396
This recent passage of play has been really odd. Like a shit fight just appears out of nowhere and then kind of disappears again. 0_o
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 06 2012 01:21 GMT
#1401
On October 06 2012 10:15 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:02 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:53 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:43 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote:
[quote]

I told you exactly why it's scummy.

[quote]

You have not refuted this. You have not criticized this. Instead you offer weak-ass reasons to defend someone - as if other people's behavior somehow vindicates risk's behavior.

So tell me why you think risk is town/not-scummy/whatever? You keep saying that he could be telling the truth, but you've never offered reasoning for it.

here a little homework for you. go read kush's filter for me. gogogogogogo tell me what you think


*gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal.

Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdr

Read my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

ok now do coagulation.

theres a method...... just do it


I'll admit Coag's filter is quite strange. I'm unsure what to think of it. On the one hand, he really hasn't done much of anything, and he's a vet. On the other hand, he's rather indignant - he's demonstrating a lot of the "I don't give a fuck" attitude that you yourself did in Rockband Mini.

When you put these two together... I don't know. I'm pretty null on him. I'd have to look more into his meta to give you a definitive response. That's a project for tomorrow if I'm still alive. I'm much more sold on risk.

Secondly, I'm STILL waiting for a response here:

How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip.

Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision.


You've still have not explained why I'm wrong here, or why risk can be considered null after this.

i never said you are wrong im just saying i found it strange that the post stuck out to you considering all the other posts that have been made that i would say are very similar.


Well I hope atleast agree that risk needs to answer for this.

But in additional context, consider that risk hasn't been under much suspicion this game (atleast from what I've read). It's really really odd that he's not scared of getting NK'd in this context.

fair enough i wont fight his battle for him.

Also im fairly certain he can easily answer the question if he is town.


Cool.

Since you asked me about kush/Coag, what do you think of 'em?

I believe kush to be town his high activity and hes been somewhat pushing discussion. Despite his wifom mind bombs my gut tells me town.

Coag is a prime concern of me.
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote:
why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way.

I dont like that acted like a cry baby when he was listed on someones scum list. Stuck out to me as weird. Especially in a large game like this why would a town player give a fuck that he was on someones list.



It literally boggles the mind that you have a town read on kush despite his WIFOM bombs. and giving a 'gut read' is a weak as shit reason for this.

Care to explain why kush would WIFOM bomb me/ derail the thread/ backdown so hard when called out/ have such a small percentage of his filter consist of scum hunting, as town?

Care to give a reason for your read other than a 'gut read'?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 06 2012 01:25 GMT
#1402
Also. Kush's activity is pretty consistent regardless of alignment. So you are going to have to give a better reason than that. Especially as this activity is not really scum hunting at all.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 06 2012 01:52 GMT
#1413
On October 06 2012 10:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:19 iamperfection wrote:
and as far as im concerned the shit fight hasen't ended it just took a nicer tone. (meaning you havent convinced me yet hapa i know you are pretty good at this game i will probably have an eye on you for the rest of the game)


Unfortunately it has to end soon, since I'm off to the bar in about 15 minutes =/

@ Darth

Regarding kush: read 'dis pl0x

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:22 iamperfection wrote:
so whats your goal finding scummy shit hapa or finding scum almost every single person has said scummy "shit" my goal is to find scum and right now i dont know what you are doing. Unless your scum to which i say hello scum i found you.


I told you exactly why it's scummy.

How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip.

Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision.


You have not refuted this. You have not criticized this. Instead you offer weak-ass reasons to defend someone - as if other people's behavior somehow vindicates risk's behavior.

So tell me why you think risk is town/not-scummy/whatever? You keep saying that he could be telling the truth, but you've never offered reasoning for it.

here a little homework for you. go read kush's filter for me. gogogogogogo tell me what you think


*gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal.

Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdr

Read my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.


He could be scum, but I think his meta (in particular his anger) suggests otherwise. You were in Newbie XXVIII - doesn't his play look different?


I know his meta Hapa. I have already commented on it at length this game. Please read the thread before you tell me to do something I have already done.

I thought he was town at first. But parts of his scum meta are sliding into his play as the game progresses. I am very aware of his meta. But it is possible that he has altered the more obvious parts of it since I caught him day one last game. The passage of play last night has changed my mind. The WIFOM bombs and the Subsequent trolling and back down has me very concerned.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 06 2012 01:56 GMT
#1415
On October 06 2012 10:32 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:30 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:19 iamperfection wrote:
and as far as im concerned the shit fight hasen't ended it just took a nicer tone. (meaning you havent convinced me yet hapa i know you are pretty good at this game i will probably have an eye on you for the rest of the game)


Unfortunately it has to end soon, since I'm off to the bar in about 15 minutes =/

@ Darth

Regarding kush: read 'dis pl0x

On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:22 iamperfection wrote:
so whats your goal finding scummy shit hapa or finding scum almost every single person has said scummy "shit" my goal is to find scum and right now i dont know what you are doing. Unless your scum to which i say hello scum i found you.


I told you exactly why it's scummy.

How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip.

Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision.


You have not refuted this. You have not criticized this. Instead you offer weak-ass reasons to defend someone - as if other people's behavior somehow vindicates risk's behavior.

So tell me why you think risk is town/not-scummy/whatever? You keep saying that he could be telling the truth, but you've never offered reasoning for it.

here a little homework for you. go read kush's filter for me. gogogogogogo tell me what you think


*gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal.

Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdr

Read my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.


He could be scum, but I think his meta (in particular his anger) suggests otherwise. You were in Newbie XXVIII - doesn't his play look different?

you have to throw the anger out now he is well aware of it now.


Yep. He is very well aware of his meta. And employed it in a WIFOM bomb. Which is why all these people who have town reads on Kush for no reason whatsoever (or because marv and now hapa told them so) need to wake up. Look at his play critically and have an actual reason for your read. Rather than herp derp 'gut read'... 'meta' herp derp.
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