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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
Also I was ToutEstChaos. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 18 2012 17:31 Kreb wrote: Well I didnt mean you randomly hit right (hence "lucky" not lucky), if you had good reason to frame him then kudos. But I just kinda mean you hit bullseye with one move which gave you the game. Had you not done it, I think town would have won. Partially due the double paramedics of course, which definitely would have been reasonable by mafia to blame the loss on in that case. As I said, too many too good roles means roles win games not good play. This time a mafia role got you the win imo. Less quantity of roles and less powerful roles please :< As I said earlier. Even with the frame if VE had handled it better, been townier etc. Town still wins. It was not as if it was 'oh we framed kush GG.' There was a lot more to it then that. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 18 2012 17:35 Kreb wrote: Oh and I agree the setup was town favored. But the reason you overcame that wasnt because of sick mafia play where you tricked us all. Nope but we put a lot off effort into achieving and then facilitating that last day when it was Kreb vs Viscera Eyes. And that was all we needed to do to fulfill our wincon. We didn't care if we were outed. It didn't matter. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
And someone reply how BC could know my role! :< | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 18 2012 17:41 Kreb wrote: Oh well, I'll drop it :p I'll probably just come off as bitter, which I really am not. Im quite satisfied with my play and as I said dont mind losing to whats clearly a part of the game. And someone reply how BC could know my role! :< BC could answer that best no doubt. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On October 18 2012 17:40 DarthPunk wrote: Nope but we put a lot off effort into achieving and then facilitating that last day when it was Kreb vs Viscera Eyes. And that was all we needed to do to fulfill our wincon. We didn't care if we were outed. It didn't matter. This is true too. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
MODS GIVE ME MAFIA ROLES PLEASE | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 18 2012 17:49 Kreb wrote: I think I'll enjoy mafia play much more than town play in this game :p MODS GIVE ME MAFIA ROLES PLEASE Heh. I much prefer town although I have played mafia more than town. It is harder and tiring and often difficult to stay motivated with. There is a reason sloosh and Shiao were afk. Hehe. Playing mafia is just like playing town. Except you have certain restrictions and everything you say is fake and feels forced. at least that's how I view it. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On October 18 2012 17:52 DarthPunk wrote: Heh. I much prefer town although I have played mafia more than town. It is harder and tiring and often difficult to stay motivated with. There is a reason sloosh and Shiao were afk. Hehe. I dont think I'd have much trouble with that. I find it demotivating to have to deal with all other townies. :p I'm 1-2 so far and the win I've felt I didnt contribute much to and the losses I felt I lost to stuff outside of my control although Im definitely in no way a super town player. All town games have left a somewhat bitter taste. But a satisfying town win would be me cracking some scummy player and then nailing him down and getting town to vote for him. The problem is not only the fact that Im probably often wrong but even when Im right its pretty hard to get people to listen to you. On the other hand as mafia you are probably on average much more a part of the reason why your team wins. Plus I think people seem to consider my play townish and I wanna see if I can keep that up as scum to fool people. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Kreb Coag and iamp was all already acting like townies (This does not mean you played well). Actually coag didn't act like a townie, he had a greencheck. But I also trusted him from a balance perspective when the scum had Marv and Node and BC was third party. All my final reads was before Viscera was lynched, didn't care after that. Just looking at the thread made me angry. Game of Thrones Mafia all over again. Mattchew. I'm tired of him joining games when he doesn't have the time or motivation to play them. Make him sit out two games if he wants to play a game here again. Thanks to DoctorHelvetica, BioSC & HiroPro for hosting the game. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On October 18 2012 18:06 risk.nuke wrote: Kreb Coag and iamp was all already acting like townies (This does not mean you played well). Heh, that has been a big part of how I decided to play. I acknowledged that my scumhunting would probably be below par, at least initally. But a bad town looking like a townie I've learned is waaay "better" than a bad townie looking scummy. People seems to be all up about scumhunting but not enough people care enough to work on their own image as towny when they are town, to avoid suspicion from other town. Indeed, all the inactive townies just barely saying anything in a game are very annoying since they provide a healthy amount of cover for the mafia to play "bad". | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On October 18 2012 16:47 Kreb wrote: We were banking on him being Private Investigator, not being scum goon claiming PI. The lack of counter claim wasnt a factor. I never understood why you were banking on him being red PI if it was a fake claim. It seems to me it makes much more sense for him to just be a goon and someone else red PI. Same reward, lower risk. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Kreb, if you'd have lynched VE all over again, then you've learnt nothing from this game. Go back and look at what you did wrong. slOosh - not sure why you're even asking. Why would you need to fuck with your town meta to play scum? It makes no sense. You were just *so* goddamn far off your town meta, and actually you're a good enough / clever enough dude for this not to be the case. Post more, push more cases, etc. - it's very simple... VE, dunno why you didn't just accept framer, when I'd already flipped showing that I didn't just show up as town, but Lucky Citizen, as godfather - i.e. there was a precedent for role being changed as well as alignment | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On October 18 2012 17:52 DarthPunk wrote: Heh. I much prefer town although I have played mafia more than town. It is harder and tiring and often difficult to stay motivated with. There is a reason sloosh and Shiao were afk. Hehe. Playing mafia is just like playing town. Except you have certain restrictions and everything you say is fake and feels forced. at least that's how I view it. This so much. Making fake reads and cases for a couple of weeks just gets so fucking boring. With a bit of distance from XXVII, being afk late game is probably a decent scum tell. Don't know how I'll feel about playing town late game though. I only have 1 game (1 day) of town play and 3 games (11 days) of scum play. What are the odds? If I get scum again next game I play I'll seriously quit this fucking game for good :p | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 18 2012 20:19 kushm4sta wrote: This game made me angry and sad. Sup Kush. I was the framer <3 | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On October 18 2012 19:23 marvellosity wrote: Kreb, if you'd have lynched VE all over again, then you've learnt nothing from this game. Go back and look at what you did wrong. You realize thats not helping me, right? | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
I didn't follow the game very closely, just my 2c... 1) You seemed to use occam's razor to conclude it was a fake claim. That was weird to me, considering a fake claim followed with what VE posted after the claim would be quite the elaborate plan (it included coroner speculation, not sending in NKs in order to make it look real, fake roleblock claims etc). Occam's razor would conclude the claim was real and that after Kush flipped either 1) he was framed or 2) there were some other mechanic at play. 2) There was no counter claim. 3) Verified flips. 4) If VEs claim is real, you're lynching a powerful blue role. If it's fake, you're more likely ending up lynching a mafia goon. | ||
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