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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:41 GMT
#3045
Right well I guess you are right BC. VE is not getting lynched. I need to go. I am back on Shiao.

##unvote
##Vote: Shiao Pi
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:44 GMT
#3047
On October 14 2012 11:41 Coagulation wrote:
if he was scum he would know im town but he wouldnt have confirmed it for town.. and I dont think I ever wanted to lynch him.
your thinking of someone else.



On October 12 2012 14:27 Coagulation wrote:
ok im lynching ve i dont give a shit


On October 12 2012 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Also coag why the fuck would YOU want to lynch VE for information. You know if he is sane or not because you know your own alignment and how it matches up with his check on you. Thus you probably can deduce better than others if there is a framer or not. Unless you are actually scum.


On October 12 2012 10:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
YEAH WHAT THE FUCK COAG?!

God I've just been assuming you're town because of my check...but that doesn't make ANY fucking sense!

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:45 GMT
#3048
On October 14 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 11:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Do you really think another 72 hours of speculating on VE's alignment and the setup is good for town?


If mafia shoot him and he flips, it confirms his checks. If mafia shoot one of his checks, it confirms his checks / him.

Basically, to keep the speculating going means they have to guess who he will check / confirm next and narrow the noose. If he checks someone they don't shoot it reduces the possible pool of players. Him being alive backs them into a corner.


Yeah. That makes sense. I didn't think of it in depth like that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:49 GMT
#3051
On October 14 2012 11:46 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 11:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 14 2012 11:32 Kreb wrote:
BC, whats your thought on DP?


Why? do you think I am scum?

Im flip flopping around quite a lot right now. Trying to consider everything since the VE lynch doesnt seem to take off. Strongly believe you to be scum? No. But right now my biggest scum read is voting ShiaoPi and two people making the wierdest cases on me are voting Matt. Matt however at least said something I can relate to as townish. On the other hand, BC who I consider to look very much town is heavily favoring Matt. Meanwhile, people are popping up with votes your way too. And your jump on VE doesnt seem completely geniune either considering you've had days of time to join me on that wagon. Im still open to all these three + staying on VE.

Can you blame me for flip flopping around?

I've already come to terms with that I'll be called scummy by some people no matter who I vote for so thats no problem.


I just got jack shit of the VE situation. You should unvote VE. BC makes sense.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:51 GMT
#3052
On October 14 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 11:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Do you really think another 72 hours of speculating on VE's alignment and the setup is good for town?


If mafia shoot him and he flips, it confirms his checks. If mafia shoot one of his checks, it confirms his checks / him.

Basically, to keep the speculating going means they have to guess who he will check / confirm next and narrow the noose. If he checks someone they don't shoot it reduces the possible pool of players. Him being alive backs them into a corner.


This assumes He is town though. What if he is scum?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:53 GMT
#3054
anyway. I am going out. Vote Shaio Pi plz.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:54 GMT
#3055
On October 14 2012 11:52 Kreb wrote:
I agree I should. And I will most likely unvote VE. Wanna make up my mind on who to switch for though.

No. Wtf? you should vote for who out of matt/shiao you think is more likely to be scum.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:56 GMT
#3059
here is a brief summary.

Shiao Pi. Useless lurker who jumped all over me for a 'scum slip'

Mattchew: Useless lurker who lurks uselessly as scum.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:57 GMT
#3060
On October 14 2012 11:55 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 11:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 14 2012 11:52 Kreb wrote:
I agree I should. And I will most likely unvote VE. Wanna make up my mind on who to switch for though.

No. Wtf? you should vote for who out of matt/shiao you think is more likely to be scum.


What did I say which contradicted this? Of course Im heavily considering Matt/Shiao atm?


I meant wtf? as in why would you ask someone you just considered scum to make up your mind for you?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 02:58 GMT
#3061
On October 14 2012 11:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also, the mafia not shooting seems to be a ploy to get VE offed. As if they had fired near universally VE would be yelled at for the kush incident but the explanation of the coroner role would be accepted. Its the lack of anyone dying that has led to the real suspicion on him.


Why the fuck would scum not shoot in order to mislynch someone they could have shot. 0_o
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 03:00 GMT
#3063
On October 14 2012 11:59 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 11:57 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 14 2012 11:55 Kreb wrote:
On October 14 2012 11:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 14 2012 11:52 Kreb wrote:
I agree I should. And I will most likely unvote VE. Wanna make up my mind on who to switch for though.

No. Wtf? you should vote for who out of matt/shiao you think is more likely to be scum.


What did I say which contradicted this? Of course Im heavily considering Matt/Shiao atm?


I meant wtf? as in why would you ask someone you just considered scum to make up your mind for you?

Dude, you need to quote better. Where did I ask anything in that quote? I dont get what you're trying to say.
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 11:52 Kreb wrote:
I agree I should. And I will most likely unvote VE. Wanna make up my mind on who to switch for though.

Wheres the question? Theres no question there.


err. my bad. I thought it was a question.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 03:00 GMT
#3064
anyway gtg. Good Luck guys.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2012 23:38 GMT
#3209
I'm here. I had 12 hours of class yesterday and couldn't muster up my normal motivation to post in this game. I'm taking a break from mafia after this game. The amount that I could not be fucked playing is staggering. HEHE. Oh well I will remain active till the end to be fair on you guys.

I have a town read on kreb. VE could easily be scum and is actually getting away with a fake claim 0_o.

I still think shiao is scummy as fuck for his 'OMG SCUMMSLIPUU' > AFK. I could also Vote VE

VE's case is based on meta from 1 game which was kreb's second game if I recall correctly and a game in whihc he replaced in. kreb's early play resembled his town play in those games (I obs'd his newbie) and his later play I think is rationally explained with the odd circumstances this game.

Kreb is Town. And I feel questioning VE is entirely rational at this point.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2012 23:52 GMT
#3211
On October 16 2012 08:49 Kreb wrote:
Coag: You know why you're alive even though you are "confirmed" town? Because not only are you helping the mafia with your voting, but you're also a natural target once VE flips red. Kei was onto it.
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 14:06 Keirathi wrote:
(you [VE] seem to be trying REALLY hard today to get lynched)

There was also the newb mafia meta read on me. If you dont trust me on it, trust town Mattchew who called him out on it. VE is playing reckless on purpose because a red flip from him was supposed to point us towards other targets (you, for example) than his real scum buddies.

More? I'm a Blue role.

Good night.


Don't claim blue and then leave buddy. If you are going to claim, claim properly or not at all.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2012 23:56 GMT
#3213
On October 16 2012 08:53 Z-BosoN wrote:
Wtf kreb?

If you are going to claim blue you gotta be more convincing than that.
Crumbs? Now that you claimed do you have anything to add? Or did you just claim for the hell of it? Spill the beans bro. Why the fuck did you claim anyways, it's not like the whole town is against you.


It feels shit being tunnelled as a townie. I can completely empathise with him. But this blue play is just bad.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 00:03 GMT
#3216
On October 16 2012 09:01 Z-BosoN wrote:
probably a vet? Would explain why he's not saying it and help explain why there were no nks.


Is there even a point speculating? He will likely come back in 12 hours or so and explain the claim.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 00:39 GMT
#3223
On October 16 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 09:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:20 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:04 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.

That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm?

stfu if you read the game you would know that im town and your just wasting time.

I'm inclined to think you are townie. A useless one at that.
If it's that easy, go ahead and read VE's filter and "know that he's town", how bout that? Or is 20 pages just too much?
Also, why are you voting kreb, hm?

because as long as he speaks in riddles my vote will stay on him. But im pretty sure i know what he is going to claim and i think we have a good chance of winning if I'm right.


How about you not talk in riddles and tell us?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 10:23 GMT
#3260
On October 16 2012 17:38 Kreb wrote:
And god damn it Shiao, why you have to be so useless? I was ready to move you off my possible scum list and then you go afk at the perfect time. As of now theres still possibilities of DP, Shiao or risk as the 3rd scum.


I see many of you group me with a bunch of people as potential scum. Do you have any evidence or a case on why this is so? I think it would be better for town that, instead of lumping several people in as scummy, you actually decide on your top scum read and build a solid case on them.

Kreb are you now back flipping on VE? do you believe VE is scum? Do you have a breadcrumb to support your Vet claim?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 10:43 GMT
#3262
I am not sold on ZB being town. Even though my top two Town reads both believe he is. Is there any particular reason you view him as town? I must admit that his play this game being so close to his meta has swayed me somewhat. But this could be faked as scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 11:08 GMT
#3264
On October 16 2012 20:05 Kreb wrote:
Well, he's been very contributory and open with his reads imo. To a way higher extent than the other three I mentioned. Is there a possibility? Sure, a really slim fucking one. And in that case hats off to ZB for amazing play. But there is absolutely nothing pointing that way atm. Feel free to make cases to convince me though.


I tunnelled ZB for 3 pages and He I. It would be anti town to tunnell him more than that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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