Liquid City Mafia - Page 122

On October 12 2012 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote:


He's said that he didn't HAVE a read on Node...that he was blindly sheeping me and Marv. However, he then goes on to say that he had a townread on Node after all.

I wonder which is true...

On October 12 2012 10:20 DarthPunk wrote:


Why the fuck would you vote for someone you had a town read on?!?!?

On October 01 2012 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:


He's a lynch I can feel good about even if he flips green.

On October 12 2012 10:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
He claims it's because after thinking about it, he realized he was blindly sheeping, went and reread and found that Node felt agreed with him on Shady or something and that turned into a townread.

At least that's how I interpreted his explanation.

On October 12 2012 10:24 Mattchew wrote:
VE how am i scummy?

ps. i am back

pps. kush flipping town changes shit

On October 11 2012 14:32 Z-BosoN wrote:
Ok. Annul, a confirmed townie, had this to say:



And here I show some reluctance. I wasn't hardcore voting him, mentioning it as a "policy lynch".


Also, more (kinda) confirmed town expressing resistance over the node lynch:



And finally my switch:



Allright, there he is is what I said. I said earlier that I was jumping on his wagon because he seemed to feign a contribution and disappear. Later, however, he comes back and argues against the lynch. He came back, and his defense seemed reasonable. That led me into making the above post.

Anyways, two things. First off, not wanting Node lynched is what scum want, but they aren't willing to throw it out in the open, so as to draw attention. annul opposed, Coag opposed, so that criterion alone is not good to define scum.

Obviously, my case is a little different, because I voted and then unvoted.
I immediately jumped on the wagon. So either me and my mafia buddies were planning this all along in the mafia QT, or I, as a bad townie, saw both VE and marv jump in and decided to sheep.

So, in my opinion, me planning to jump in, then later, jump out if things got rough is pretty silly, don't you think? Wouldn't it be much easier to just go ahead and vote someone else? Why go through the trouble is what I'm saying. A scum will only vote for his scum friend to get town cred from a bus. What other reason is there?

Another thing to ponder is: if that was my plan all along, why didn't I jump off at a much later time, when the votes were more meaningful? If I want town cred, yet don't want to lynch my scum friend, the most reasonable thing to do is just that, right? Stay in the bus and pop off if it makes a difference.

What I don't understand for you to want to lynch me, is why does it make more sense for me to be scum than be a townie with a bad start? I completely changed my gameplay after that event, as I said I would. Once my other game was over, I became a lot more participative and began actually scumhunting. Both you and DP have seen my play as both scum and townie, and how I was playing in day one is not even close to any of them. That is because my claim of not having enough time is legit.

So, if you want to lynch me, you are throwing everything about my play day2 and beyond in the toilet. You are lynching me mainly because of one event, which is very easily justifiable by being a townie mistake. Why do I make a better lynch, than say Mattchew, who has done absolutely nothing since the beginning of the game except tell people not to lynch shady because of dumb reasons?

Personally I find this very lacking. You disagree, but I think it makes little sense from a scum mindset. My townie explanation, in my mind, is much more fitting if you take in consideration day 2 and beyond, and the fact that I expressed my insatisfaction earlier on, on my vote on him (again, when he showed up and defended himself, I found it reasonable and unvoted him, in accordance to my earlier post, which said he "disappeared"). The scum explanation makes sense, of course, but imo it makes much less sense than my townie one, and not only that, it also ignores every single thing I've changed in my gameplay since day one.

That about sums it up.
Think of my townie explanation, your scummy one, and see which makes more sense, based on what I've said.

On October 12 2012 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Guys I understand that I look bad. But unless you think I'm scum, lynching me is a poor idea. I'm active, I give a shit and I'm going to be here looking for scum. You're talking about lynching me when there are people who don't give a fuck about this game just coming in here and voting the flavor of the cycle. Subtracting the fact that my flip will tell you nothing about anything (I'd be interested to hear what you think my flip will tell you Coag), it's just a bad idea in general. Don't do it guys.

On October 12 2012 10:25 Coagulation wrote:
ve it would tell us if theres a framer or some shit in play. would tell us if your telling truth or not.

On October 12 2012 10:26 Z-BosoN wrote:
Now see who's going for the little details. I didn't find him lynch worthy, unlike Node.
Anyways, I'm up to my balls with this Node thing. If you read my quotes in this defense you can see that I was already feeling unsatisfied with my vote on Node. My unvoting comes right after Node's defense post, which makes me choose where I'm going.
Refer here:


I'm not gonna bother with this anymore. I think this is a really shitty reason to lynch me, and if you wanna feel proud that in my 7 page filter this sole thing that has a perfectly reasonable townie explanation seals the deal to me being scum, then fine, great job on your scumhunting skills, pat yourselves on the back once I flip town. It's also ironic how you basically summed it up here how I'm feeling:



Won't bother with this anymore.

On October 12 2012 10:37 Z-BosoN wrote:
That actually makes him even more townie looking imo.
Scum don't like saying risky shit such as that. That remark is like 99% confused and paranoid townie.

On October 12 2012 10:38 Mattchew wrote:
VE what do you think of iamperfection

On October 02 2012 01:07 Mattchew wrote:
Shady said before the game, before he knew his alignment, that he was going to troll. I have yet to see a shady case about his posting after his "trollfest" (if there is I missed it). If we lynch someone for doing something so non-alignment telling we are bad and we should feel bad. If you are voting Shady I want your reasons for the vote beyond "he was trolling and thats anti-town herp derp"

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I was thinking that we should lynch Coag because he hasn't put in any effort after getting mad at Caller about his game. He got mad at Caller for not allowing him to play in a game and then joins this one and parks a vote on Shady with shitty ass reasoning. The thing holding me back on this is that this might actually be how Coag plays, and I dont think I have played with him in a real game that I remember.

Austinmc hasn't contributed jack shit, which is very different from his usual productive town self

Kingjames was extremely awkwardly wishy-washy with his attempt to call out keirathi. He talks about focusing on scum hunting but has spent almost all his time trying to defend and focusing on himself. His first post also reeks of scum trying to look tryhard townie.

I want to a lot more from BC, his lack of contributions make me very nervous about him.


##vote kingjames01

On October 03 2012 07:05 Mattchew wrote:


I wasn't around for when the lynch went down.

Sloosh should still be lynched, do you disagree with my assessment of it or just my lack of pushing it?

I didn't think that shady did anything (other than come back last minute to the thread) that warranted him being lynched, but because of so many people getting away with little to no information about why their vote was on him or node, I struggle to find the difference there between bad town and scum.

Forgot to unvote, woulda ended up not voting (which is basically what I did). Honestly I just had a really bad day 1 and was not able to really get a strong read on anyone through just overall reading, and then when I looked at sloosh I was away for when I should have been pushing him.

Anyway lets chat about sloosh, BC and annul. These are the players that feel weird.

Sloosh seems to be struggling to post, and seems like he is struggling to type out his thoughts. I think this is because he is scum. I was easy to make a case on because I played like shit day 1. He skews the truth in his case about me when he mentions my stop voting shady sands point. I was clearly saying this to the people that at that moment were voting shady which there were still a lot of at that time (in this thread and +2 to the voting thread). I was also not saying what alignment Shady was, I was just saying that at that time votes on him were stupid.

BC reminds me a lot of foolish playing in Bureaucracy. He knows that a lot is expected of him which makes it really really hard for him to post a lot. He is focusing in on people here and there while not actively driving discussion and calling out bad play. His posting looks really weak for a normally very confident player, and the % of fluff/bs to actual content in his filter is not up to his town-standards

Annul, his 5 page filter has nothing of actual value in terms of reasoning, scum-hunting, or explaining his thought process. He also was extremely active in the hours leading up the lynch and ended up pushing no candidate. Here is annul's last scum game filter, I feel it reads very very similar to his filter this game (link plz click)