EPTOn October 12 2012 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Master-BATER more like.
Amirite guys? Eh?
Master-BATER more like.
Amirite guys? Eh?
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Mementoss
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VisceraEyes
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Z-BosoN
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On October 12 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote: and by figured both claims are bullshit do you mean the other one to be BC's claim to be vet No, I still find yours to be weird as fuck. BC is almost 100% guaranteed to be crap. I think not my good sir. On October 10 2012 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote: I did. Your mannerisms this game feel like you're exclusively reacting to others' attempts to scumhunt - and the way you have had this pseudo-scumread on me for however long but never really made a case or really explicitly say you want to lynch me felt like you were scared to attract my attention. It's just felt newb-scum to me, no offense intended. Also I felt obligated when my scumread (Coag) returned green to check a scumread of the dead (annul). To be fair though, it was between you and Z-Boson. I may or may not check ZBoson tonight, depending on your flip and the contributions of others between then and now. If I'm alive. Who knows what tomorrow will bring? This was much much later when the expiration date of your "trap" had come about. Let's pretend that by "never", you actually meant "after I received the green check on him". If that's the case, you are saying that you had a scum-read on Coag. Then you received a green check on him. Then you decided to make a shit case on him to see if people were gonna jump, and thus catch your scum?? Because, as your experience tells you, scums love hopping onto bad cases? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On October 12 2012 09:07 Z-BosoN wrote: No, I still find yours to be weird as fuck. BC is almost 100% guaranteed to be crap. I think not my good sir. This was much much later when the expiration date of your "trap" had come about. Let's pretend that by "never", you actually meant "after I received the green check on him". If that's the case, you are saying that you had a scum-read on Coag. Then you received a green check on him. Then you decided to make a shit case on him to see if people were gonna jump, and thus catch your scum?? Because, as your experience tells you, scums love hopping onto bad cases? The bolded is the case - I did have a scumread on Coag before I checked him. My experience tells me that scum love to hop on cases against townies written by townies. Whether the case is good or bad, there's always a scum who's willing to go "Hey yeah, that DID kinda look like a scumslip!". And no, I wasn't going to let that be a determining factor in a lynch. I was using it as a baseline for my check - because Kush fit the bill as newbScum who fell into my trap, I checked him. He returned Red. The rest is history. | ||
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DarthPunk
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I find that scenario INCREDIBLY unlikely. Sanity is certainly in question. AS is the possibility of a framer or something similar. But we should not be lynching VE right now. I find it very interesting that Z - Boson has dropped his pressure of me. Despite what he 'foresaw' (despite thinking it was highly unlikely) in his case coming true. I want to lynch Z - Boson. He clearly tried to entrap me with a green kush flip and his case relied upon this. Despite his vote for kush and stating kush was 75% red. He also stopped the lynch of scum day one by throwing away his vote. Even though he says he wasnted neither to get lynched. What he was actually doing, and every thinking rational individual would know this, was lynching shady and saving scum. His 'I thought neither was scum so voted for neither' Is silly as it was clear that his actions would cause a shady lynch. And save node. What he actually did with his vote was: I prefer shady to be lynched rather than node. That is Scummy. Combine it with trying to entrap me with clear foreknowledge of kush's flip Despite calling him red and voting for him. he expressed doubt over kush;s alignment. And instead of attempting to lynch someone else like the others who doubted the claim. He used his doubt to set up a further mislynch Z- Boson is scum and must be lynched. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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You also use similar 'techniques' here: On October 11 2012 01:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Mementoss What I don't understand is why you didn't explain this earlier, especially when I questioned why someone would investigate kush. I think this would be rather important to explain your motivations, right? You also didn't answer this: On October 11 2012 18:36 Z-BosoN wrote: Wait, what??? I call bullshit right there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260¤tpage=25#499 You typed in ##vote node one minute after marv gave the first vote, being the second one to vote node. You wanted to lynch him waaay before there was any sort of information on the wagon. That's definitely not why you wanted to lynch node. + Show Spoiler + I'm calling so much bullshit this game. Need to augment my vocabulary | ||
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VisceraEyes
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DarthPunk
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It doesn't make any sense at all to fake claim cop. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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On October 12 2012 09:50 VisceraEyes wrote: I wanted to lynch Node for being non-contributory D1 and parking his vote. When I said "that's why I wanted to lynch Node" that should have read "that's why I STILL wanted to lynch Node in spite of the resistance". I was talking about the resistance to the Node lynch that I couldn't understand. And why didn't you say this earlier? | ||
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Coagulation
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Z-BosoN
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On October 12 2012 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote: But you know...feel free to keep picking apart every little thing I say. -.- Honestly it's fine, but I figured even the worst of us (not saying it's you ZBos) would be able to read between the lines when I say certain things. I'll remember in the future that I should make zero assumptions about the median skill-level of the playerbase. Lord knows that if Kush was a townie, I had that lesson coming. What the hell, you say things that are clearly untrue, should I just ignore them? What I do is ask you about them and see if your explanation makes sense. I'm not going WTF YOU ARE SCUM and using every little detail against you. You yourself realized you don't look so good, and I'm trying to figure out whether you are lying scum or just caught in a bad situation (much like myself). So far they seem reasonable, so I still don't think you'd make a good lynch. What I'm also missing from reading your filter is your actual scumhunting. You are gauging a lot of reactions and sifting through a lot of cases, but aside from you wanting to lynch me, I can't find anything conclusive. Excluding myself, who would you lynch as of right now? Do you buy Mementoss's claim? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On October 12 2012 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Guys I understand that I look bad. But unless you think I'm scum, lynching me is a poor idea. I'm active, I give a shit and I'm going to be here looking for scum. You're talking about lynching me when there are people who don't give a fuck about this game just coming in here and voting the flavor of the cycle. Subtracting the fact that my flip will tell you nothing about anything (I'd be interested to hear what you think my flip will tell you Coag), it's just a bad idea in general. Don't do it guys. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Besides you, I'd like to lynch Mattchew for sure. Dude is doing less than Coag, which is pretty fucking bad. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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On October 12 2012 10:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not sure - as I said before I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around the whole Mementoss/BC thing. I don't get either of their reactions. Besides you, I'd like to lynch Mattchew for sure. Dude is doing less than Coag, which is pretty fucking bad. Well try harder man, I think this is important. I spend a ton of time trying to figure this out and all I get is risk.nuke's "yea mementoss is scummy" and a "lol ZBosoN is funny". Atm I'm considering the possibility that both yours and mementoss's claim may be true. Because, your role obviously is unreliable, and there may be others in the same category. That would make sense, balance-wise, of having like at least 6 blues. This is helpful because if I can assume that all claims are true, my list of scum candidates goes down a LOT. I'm also missing some Keirathi, ShiaoPi, Mattchew in here... | ||
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DarthPunk
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Why would ZB unvpte node to save node and lynch shady if he had previously thought node was scummy enough to vote for? The obvious consequence is that shady is more likely lynched after unvoting node. So ZB backflipped from thinking node was scum to backflipping so much as to indirectly aid the lynch of someone he thought was town. To save someone else he thought was town but had just voted for? And all this just happens to derail a scum lynch day one? Right. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On October 12 2012 10:14 DarthPunk wrote: To expand on the node thing. Why would ZB unvpte node to save node and lynch shady if he had previously thought node was scummy enough to vote for? The obvious consequence is that shady is more likely lynched after unvoting node. So ZB backflipped from thinking node was scum to backflipping so much as to indirectly aid the lynch of someone he thought was town. To save someone else he thought was town but had just voted for? And all this just happens to derail a scum lynch day one? Right. He's said that he didn't HAVE a read on Node...that he was blindly sheeping me and Marv. However, he then goes on to say that he had a townread on Node after all. I wonder which is true... | ||
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