Liquid City Mafia - Page 124

On October 07 2012 17:29 ShiaoPi wrote:
DP, you know my meta, I am a horribly bad townie in the first couple of cycles, always lurking around and stuff, now I tried to make an effort earlier with the fuba-case (granted not very good) and I get called out for that shizzle.

Seeing all of you call for my death because of "meta" is so fucking ridiculous. If you want to meta-analyse me then do it properly by only comparing the bigger games (LVI, LVII) and the first cycles in there, see any difference? I am playing like I always do in large games.....

LVII was a whole different matter DP, you know that just as well as I do, the situations are not even remotely comparable. The case of our french dude was weak, I already answered it.

I do give a shit about town, I just get lazy since we got 2 cycles of 100%-red lynches now already.

On October 07 2012 17:37 ShiaoPi wrote:
look at LVI, made weak cases on bke and hyaach as well...
Do meta properly if you do so, seriously.

Your thoughts about toutestchaos dying after fingering me and kush is wifom and you know it.

On October 09 2012 14:50 Keirathi wrote:
@VE:

Why was marv so willing to bus Node on day1, but spent time hard defending kush? I certainly don't think its impossible, but that's a pretty extreme dichotomy.

On October 09 2012 15:32 Keirathi wrote:

Yea, its WIFOM.

But I've been thinking about kush a lot, and VE jumping in and voting for him made me start thinking about it.

Here's my current train of thought (and yes, before you say it, its still WIFOM, but I believe it actually makes some sense). Kush comes under pretty heavy pressure day 1, and marv immediately jumps in to defend him pretty damn hard. Also, kush is the kind of player that's always an easy lynch, so as scum he would at some point be a liability to a scum marv that plans to survive until the end game (and yes, that is always marv's goal. He prides himself of being "unlynchable").

So, lets say it gets to that point and Kush flips scum. Now, because of marv's hard defense, marv looks pretty damn bad. Say what you want about being WIFOM, but scum marv almost never does things that make him look bad. Go read basically any scum game that he has ever played. He busses players that will be a liability to him surviving, and otherwise distances himself from his teammates.

So, the only way for marv not to look bad for hard-defending scum Kush is for him to plan for Kush to never get flipped. And I'm just not sure even marv is capable of that.

Which leads me to the conclusion that either 1) kush is town, or 2) marv planned to have a "change of heart" and bus kush at some point. Based on marv's past games as scum, I think (1) is more likely than (2).

On October 11 2012 12:13 Keirathi wrote:

I'm not going to feel guilty voting for a townie with a red check. That's just the way the game works. I personally believed that you were town because of your interactions with marv, but the smart play is not to trust my gut and to go with the claimed check, because I've been pretty terribly wrong with town reads in the past (seriously, go back and look at my reads in Newbie XXII. they were roflbad).

As far as pushing a VE lynch....I don't know. VE's claim timing was...weird. But its also weird that he as scum would be willing to trade himself 1-for-1 with you. No offense, but you're an easy lynch to push because half of the things you say don't make sense from a townie perspective. I don't see why scum VE would want to trade 1-for-1 with you, when their scum team was already hemorrhaging members.