EPTNot scum hunting. Tunnelling kush as an excuse to avoid scumhunting. That all falls apart if kush is red.
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Not scum hunting. Tunnelling kush as an excuse to avoid scumhunting. That all falls apart if kush is red. | ||
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On October 14 2012 08:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't like any of you who were saying you thought the way Kush was acting was townie. I disagree entirely, and as such cannot relate with any of your suspicions surrounding it. You're all equally scummy to me for that. I have played or obs'd every kush game. I know his play better than you. He was not acting the same in face of a lynch. To be fair. He used his meta to WIFOM me so he could have changed it. And I don't see why town kush would WIFOM bomb me in order to make himself unreadable. But he looked pretty damn townie towards the end. And in coordination with ZB's case being unsound with a townie kush. I thought he was being mislynched and I would be set up off the back of it. Turns out he flipped green So either he was townie and framed. Scum and flip was hidden. or you lied. I don't see why scum would form a last minute counter-wagon if any of these were true. | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote: So? It hasn't fallen apart yet, he flipped green didn't he? And you even had a townread on the guy before he flipped. So what about ZBos' case falls apart? \ Nothing. But he didn;t know that. And when he made the case he was certain kush was red. It speaks of ZB knowing the flip of kush before hand and trying to lynch me off hte back of it. Be rational. Why on earth would someone make a case based on a flip that was highly unlikely. Then continue to push that case at length before the flip and despite thinking kush would flip in a way that ould cause the case to fall apart? Entrapment. Based on additional information. | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:09 VisceraEyes wrote: So vote for me. If that's honestly how you feel the plop a vote down on me and convince others it's the best course of action. The only reason I can see for you telling me that is to attempt to incite anger. No. I want to lynch Z-Boson more. Obviously. I voted for him over a red checked kush. I could also vote for shiao with his OMG OMG SCUM! bullshit and then disappearing again. I have no fucking Idea about you. But at this point your very existence is anti town. Surely you can understand that. | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote: No, I don't understand that. My existence isn't "antitown" because I'm town. My existence is one extra day we get to try and find scum. You know who like to say that townies' existence are anti town? I'll give you three guesses. That is bullshit VE. If we spend the rest of the game questioning your alignment and not scumhunting, it is better that you are dead instead. I see that you are just bringing up a whole bunch of shit to see what will stick. Thing is none of it will. Because I ain't scum. | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Then scumhunt. I'm not stopping you or anyone from scumhunting. I'm a DT so you either believe me and look elsewhere or you think I'm lying and you lynch me. If I'm not the lynch candidate than no one should be considering my alignment. I'm not just trying to "see what will stick", I'm pointing out the things that I think are scummy in your play. I mean, if there's good reason for it fine - but the reasoning you're giving is awful. Like, how does me being alive stop anyone from scumhunting? You have obviously not just had the unfortunate experience of having to catch up on a thread that largely contains speculation regarding yourself. A flamewar between yourself and BC you rage quitting the game. and discussion dominated on if you should/should not be alive. Also a shit load of setup speculation based on claims on assumptions that just seem silly. It makes reading the thread difficult. It gives scum opportunity to blend in. It is anti town. There are certain situations that a lynch is beneficial to town regardless of their alignment. You are pointing things out. I don't think they are scummy. If the reasoning is 'awful' why don;t you elaborate instead of moving onto the next small thing? | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:40 Kreb wrote: This situation making me nervous as fuck. Still votes everywhere. Can everyone who hasnt voted yet please throw out your votes on your top scum reads? Please. Yeah I agree. I am voting Z-Boson. Case is repeated ad-nauseum in my filter. I am willing to consolidate onto ShiaoPi or Viscera Eyes. | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:41 iamperfection wrote: someone tell me why shaopi is town. Is that a trick question? | ||
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Will you vote for Z-B? | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes, actually. I've been catching up on this thread all day. It's a chore sure, but not just because of me. Yes I had a little blowout with BC yesterday, but that's FAR from made the thread unreadable. And it certainly doesn't STOP anyone from scumhunting - people can filter, people can skip the posts in question...the simple fact that these things are in the thread doesn't make me antitown dude. And where was all this "VE is anti-town and should just die" sentiment before now? You're accusing ZBoson of the EXACT SAME THING YOU ARE DOING. You were setting up ZBos lynch based on a flip that had not occured, after being certain the lynch was scum at the beginning of the day and having doubts about the lynch toward the end of the day. That's the EXACT scenario you're accusing ZBoson of. That is scummy, I don't care what differences there are between the scenarios. The end result is exactly the same (setting up a lynch of the other), and the reasoning is exactly the same (went from scum read to town read without knowledge of the flip). I also find it odd that ZBos is now this super scumread for you, and ShiaoPi is barely a footnote in your reads when he had a "really strong case" against him in the form of Tout's case and yet now when we have a lynch in place, you're trying to get someone OTHER than ShiaoPi lynched. Like...sure okay, varying degrees of scumminess, reads change, whatever...but he has since done something you've found super scummy, but he's not as bad as this other guy? Who did something you yourself did? I am willing to vote for Shiao PI. Maybe it is personal but I really want to lynch Z-Boson. But I am totally willing to vote shiao pi for his OMG SCUMSLIP OMG DP DIEEE! case. Like I already said this. And if it is weird that Z-B is a super scum read maybe you should reread my filter where I call him out for 3 pages. | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:48 Kreb wrote: Who hasnt voted? DP and ZB? I haven't voted. at this stage I will need to consolidate most likely. I will vote for Z-B Shiao or VE looks like shiao Pi is the best pick right now ##Vote: Shiao PI | ||
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On October 14 2012 11:07 Keirathi wrote: I don't give a fuck what VE's "check" was. Because Kush flipped town. We KNOW that something is wrong. There are too many unexplainable things, and no way to verify any of them. My gut tells me that Kush was town. He flipped town. So, from my perspective, either one of two things happened: 1) Kush was framed or 2) VE is lying. On October 14 2012 11:09 Keirathi wrote: The only reason anyone has ever thought that coroner could change a flip was because VE FUCKING SUGGESTED IT. In my experience, people only speculate about roles that they should have no fucking clue about when they actually have some information about said role. On October 14 2012 11:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Kei I do. I HAVE A FUCKING MOD REPORT THAT SAYS MAFIA CORONER. Thats the information I have that you're suggesting. Yeah. This is just going to keep on being an issue. I feel like a VE is the best lynch today. Then we know his alignment. Potentially discover MMtoss and coags alignments. Reduce the pool of potential scum. Have some Idea of what the fuck is going on. I don't know if he is lying or telling the truth. But I feel like If it is even 50/50 that he is lying it is best we lynch him. If he is scum we catch scum. And can move on from this shit storm. If he is town. We trade VE for 2 confirmed townies. and we can move on from this shit storm. I implore you all to vote Viscera Eyes. ##Unvote ##Vote: Viscera Eyes | ||
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On October 14 2012 11:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote: DP, VE is not getting lynched today -_- We have an hour. Why not? | ||
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On October 14 2012 11:24 Z-BosoN wrote: omg town is confused as ever... DP, you keep insisting and insisting that my case on you is based on kush being town. You were the FIRST one to cast scumminess on me with that logic... the ONLY remark I made before that was that "I was finding it weird that you didn't acknowledge how kush's meta was different from last game", which is not my entire case. You took ONE sidenote, made it my entire case, and said the rest was shit, which is not true. I really don't buy DP's scumhunting as legit... Could be a townie that's heavily misinterpreting what I say but what really makes me want to lynch him is the amount of OMGUS he deployed, comparable to when he was scum in LVII. We really have to get shit down, scum is heavily disorienting this lynch.. It seems like the DP wagon is really really not wanting to take off, despite so much stuff I've written on him, this is bothering me a fair lot. I will settle for ShiaoPi/mattchew, if this is really the case. Not sure which though. Everytime I think about it I change my mind, this is becoming quite annoying. You have 1 game to make a meta read on me. And that is what it boils down to. You obviously believe you said something vastly different to what you actually said. Regardless. Save it for tomorrow. | ||
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Either way he is a good lynch IMO. | ||
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On October 14 2012 11:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Because the only reason he is really in a position to be lynched is because he wasn't shot last night. Yes the kush flip looks bad however it can easily be explained via the likelyhood mafia could hide a flip. By offing someone who is quite possibly what he claims, all you are doing is reducing the amount of confirmed townies to a lower amount and thus let them be picked off far more quickly. More specifically however, of VE, Coag and MMtoss, VE is overall doing the most thus losing him if he is town is the bigger detriment. Hmm. Ok. but that entirely dismisses the chance of him being scum. Which is weird cause you were voting him earlier. | ||
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On October 14 2012 11:32 Kreb wrote: BC, whats your thought on DP? Why? do you think I am scum? | ||
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On October 14 2012 11:39 Coagulation wrote: Theres nothing to speculate about. He wouldnt of confirmed me as town if he was scum. If he was scum he would know you are town. Also I said this same thing to you before when you wanted to lynch him for info :/ | ||
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