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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:22 GMT
#2511
I think you don't care if BC is 3rd party or not. Z-Boson is the obvious choice. But as a cop checking the obvious choice is not always the correct play.

I am going to take a stab that you checked sloosh.

He is a good target to check because he has been called up as a potential lynch candidate several times already so is likely to be on the lynch agenda.

He is lurking pretty hard so it is difficult to make a read or case based purely on his content.

If he is town You have saved a lurker from a mislynch. If he is red you have got hard evidence that may have been difficult to acquire without your check.

Sloosh was the best target and you checked him.

Addendum.

Don't wait half the day. WTF.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:25 GMT
#2513
VE. Reveal ASAP the longer you stall the more meaningless your check is.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:27 GMT
#2515
I was happy to play the game. But stalling for 24 hours is just bleh.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:28 GMT
#2517
On October 12 2012 14:27 Coagulation wrote:
ok im lynching ve i dont give a shit

LoL coag you seem... upset.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:31 GMT
#2519
VE just be protown before Coag bursts into a fit of Apoplectic rage.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:43 GMT
#2525
This whole situation is silly. Good for us. But is fucking with my head a bit.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:44 GMT
#2526
On October 12 2012 14:42 Coagulation wrote:
how the fuck do you know they didnt roleblock toss?

Wait. What? Holy shit.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:47 GMT
#2528
On October 12 2012 14:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
They might have - I'm just saying - they didn't do BOTH of those things. Why not? They could get away with killing me scott free.


NO. You said they didn't roleblock MMToss.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:52 GMT
#2534
On October 12 2012 14:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Stop being an idiot Darth It's clear what I meant in context.


Stop calling me an idiot whenever I question something that you say.

That was a scum slip if I have ever seen one. I can only assume you were retarded enough to fake claim cop and have now slipped.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 05:56 GMT
#2539
Firstly. Calm the fuck down. Secondly. That is a weird assumption to make. It assumes there is only 1kp. It assumes that scum have a roleblocker.

The fact is you said they didn't roleblock MMtoss and you have no way of knowing if they did/didn't or could/couldn't
It gives the impression of additional information.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:09 GMT
#2548
On October 12 2012 14:58 Coagulation wrote:
its just retarded speculation. not a slip.


Hmmm. Still. Why would VE check MMtoss? It seems like that is the exact claim that scum would make if they were fake claiming. VE knows this. So why did he check someone so obvious.

UNLESS. VE was checking MMtoss' alignment in order to confirm his sanity or whatever as cop.

In that case if coag and MMtoss are the alignments that they have claimed. Then VE is sane cop. and Kush was framed or his alignment was altered on death.

If kush's alignment was hidden on death.

We should be Looking at Keir, DP, ZB, Iamperfection

This is why VE asked about this group before which means he likely believes the alignment altering scenario. This would make sense as we are missing KP and they could have been 'traded' for this power.

If he was framed we should be looking at ZB plus a whole host of others. But this is less likely as in that case we are inexplicably missing KP.




"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:12 GMT
#2550
On October 12 2012 15:00 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 14:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Firstly. Calm the fuck down. Secondly. That is a weird assumption to make. It assumes there is only 1kp. It assumes that scum have a roleblocker.

The fact is you said they didn't roleblock MMtoss and you have no way of knowing if they did/didn't or could/couldn't
It gives the impression of additional information.

First, you're jumping on something that it was very obvious what he meant. Second, VE ALREADY CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN ROLEBLOCKED ON NIGHT 1. And Mementoss claimed to be roleblocked on...night 3? Whatever the night was that he claimed watcher. So of course he assumes the scum has a roleblocker.

His point is perfectly valid if he's a townie. Scum would have known that he wasn't lying about being rolecop, and would have known that Mementoss wasn't lying about being watcher, so they could have RB'd Mementoss and got a basically guaranteed kill on the claimed Cop.

However, if one or VE or Mementoss are scum, though, then that starts breaking down, obviously.


Exactly. And it wasn't that obvious what he meant. It looked like a pretty huge slip to me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:15 GMT
#2551
And why is it so obvious if it rely's on VE being town when one of the points in your case against me was thinking VE was town?

Then you come at me again for thinking that is based on him NOT being Town.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:19 GMT
#2553
On October 12 2012 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
What a terribly interesting reaction.


Can you elaborate?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:23 GMT
#2557
On October 12 2012 15:20 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 15:15 DarthPunk wrote:
And why is it so obvious if it rely's on VE being town when one of the points in your case against me was thinking VE was town?

Then you come at me again for thinking that is based on him NOT being Town.


I wasn't calling you scum. I saying that you calling the VE thing a "scum slip" was absolutely retarded.

In fact, now that you bring it up, you were SO FUCKING SURE that VE was a cop. How is your first thought when you see VE says that suddenly "WOW he fucking scumslipped!". If you 'thought' he was town, you should have been thinking about what he said from a town perspective, in which case it should have made 100% sense to you what he was trying to say.

NOW I'm calling you scum. You can't even keep your story straight.


Nope I didn't read it that way. And following what to me plainly looked like a scum slip I altered my read on him. My story is straight. Whatever Keir. You are grasping at straws.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:23 GMT
#2558
On October 12 2012 15:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 12 2012 09:07 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 12 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote:
and by figured both claims are bullshit do you mean the other one to be BC's claim to be vet


No, I still find yours to be weird as fuck. BC is almost 100% guaranteed to be crap.

On October 12 2012 08:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 08 2012 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew on the other hand is not active and scummy.

I never thought Coag was scum - I wanted to see who jumped onboard a shitty-ass case. Kush won. I'm presently looking over previous games to decide if I think it's because he's scum or because he's just really really bad.



I think not my good sir.

On October 10 2012 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I did. Your mannerisms this game feel like you're exclusively reacting to others' attempts to scumhunt - and the way you have had this pseudo-scumread on me for however long but never really made a case or really explicitly say you want to lynch me felt like you were scared to attract my attention. It's just felt newb-scum to me, no offense intended. Also I felt obligated when my scumread (Coag) returned green to check a scumread of the dead (annul).

To be fair though, it was between you and Z-Boson. I may or may not check ZBoson tonight, depending on your flip and the contributions of others between then and now. If I'm alive. Who knows what tomorrow will bring?


This was much much later when the expiration date of your "trap" had come about.

Let's pretend that by "never", you actually meant "after I received the green check on him".

If that's the case, you are saying that you had a scum-read on Coag. Then you received a green check on him. Then you decided to make a shit case on him to see if people were gonna jump, and thus catch your scum?? Because, as your experience tells you, scums love hopping onto bad cases?



The bolded is the case - I did have a scumread on Coag before I checked him.

My experience tells me that scum love to hop on cases against townies written by townies. Whether the case is good or bad, there's always a scum who's willing to go "Hey yeah, that DID kinda look like a scumslip!". And no, I wasn't going to let that be a determining factor in a lynch. I was using it as a baseline for my check - because Kush fit the bill as newbScum who fell into my trap, I checked him. He returned Red. The rest is history.


Just ironic is all.


Haha. Yep.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:25 GMT
#2560
But honestly. I don't see how It was so obviously not a scum slip. I have full on tunnelled and lynched people for less. And it WAS worded very badly. Meh. I can understand how you are seeing it. I just honestly misread it. And to be frank it leant itself to being misread.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:27 GMT
#2561
On October 12 2012 15:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 15:21 Coagulation wrote:
how can he be fucking scum he didnt even know they have a role blocker


Saying "Hey that assumes they have a roleblocker" doesn't mean he doesn't know they have a roleblocker Coag - it just means that he's feigning townie ignorance...except that we KNOW scum have a roleblocker because both of the claimed roles have claimed roleblocked. He can't keep his "townie ignorance" straight because he can't remember what we know and don't know.

Catch up Coag geez.


Except the veracity of their claims have been in doubt for the past two days. So it is only 100% if we believe their claims 100%
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:32 GMT
#2563
On October 12 2012 15:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you say so guy. It made sense to me - but then, I'm kinda a stoner. I think television static makes sense sometimes.


I can see why you think I am scummy for misinterpreting something as a scumslip. As coag did also. Of course it made sense to you. But to others it is not so cut and dry.Keir can say 'it was obvious if you read it as town VE saying it'. But it wasn't to me.

And the roleblocker is based on the claims of two people who have been doubted strongly. So it's hardly what I would call proof.

Anyway. I can't really argue against the perspective of you guys on this. I can understand it your way now that it has been explained to me.

But I don't feel it was as obvious as you make it out to be.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 06:35 GMT
#2565
On October 12 2012 15:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Scum were sure they could get me lynched if they didn't withhold their KP. As in, if someone claims getting shot, then their play was to lynch me I think. That's the only way I can make sense of still being alive.

Did I already tell you guys I suspect the "Detective" role is the scum roleblocker?


The only way I can see scum missing both KP is if there was a 3rd medic and/or they tried to shoot into BC again and he is 3rd party.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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