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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 14:27 GMT
#941
Then please use your remaining time on djodref. I'm likely going to push a lynch on him when I get home. I'm feeling pretty confident he's our last remaining scum.
The thing about omni is I recall a post where I get the feeling he is genuinely going after kush. He claims him "a little suspicious", and still presses on later.
His town case still feels weird as fuck, but ill grant that rsc asked him for it. Anyways, granted he is getting modkilled most likely, I'd change focus.
I'm actually pretty damn confident now. Gah can't wait to get home!!
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
October 05 2012 14:34 GMT
#942
On October 05 2012 22:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
EBWOP lynch him the next day if we decide he is scum.
Also, sdm. Save my filter for the night. If you don't have enough time, decide between SS and djodref. This idea to bring up a ridiculous case on me in late day 3 when I'm not even a lynch choice is typical shady's dumb thinking, which mostly manifests itself when he is town. Also, doint ignore the fact he ignored your case.
Anyways, I'm leaning slight town on him (plus, corrosion bothered writing a list before he left, as if he genuinely wants to help town. I feel if he were scum, he would just abandon this game and not care). omni seems scummy but is a wasteful lynch if he gets nodkilled, so that only leaves djodref, from my pov. Now that, from a skim of his filter, I can definitely see him as sxum, I want to lynch him atm.


I have no idea what to make out of all this. It doesn't look like a bad case but I'm having a feeling the more I look into it, the more farfetched it becomes. Or you are fucking genius. I mean, both the d1 against Debears and the d2 case against Alsn are good. All of us found them so good we voted at least one of them.

I'm still leaning Omni, since he's both very scummy and a complete lurker. but I still got a few more minutes to read filters.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
October 05 2012 14:40 GMT
#943
On October 05 2012 23:27 Z-BosoN wrote:
Then please use your remaining time on djodref. I'm likely going to push a lynch on him when I get home. I'm feeling pretty confident he's our last remaining scum.
The thing about omni is I recall a post where I get the feeling he is genuinely going after kush. He claims him "a little suspicious", and still presses on later.
His town case still feels weird as fuck, but ill grant that rsc asked him for it. Anyways, granted he is getting modkilled most likely, I'd change focus.
I'm actually pretty damn confident now. Gah can't wait to get home!!


No, pretty sure the only thing he does is give a wishy washy answer to Darth's question and then disappears.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 14:49 GMT
#944
I feel its a terrible case, even trying to be as unbiased as possible. Same goes for you though, you'd have to be a fucking genious to bus kush bringing up some serious meta arguments when even DP had unvoted him. That's not something we rely on unless we are playing with fantastic players, which, quite humbly, I'm clearly not. So yean until mylo, stick with me being town
Go through djo's filter keeping what I've said in mind. Read it twice, one assuming he's town, one assuming he's scum. There's some shit there that doesn't add up.
Especially the latest events. He's sheeped me hardcore and apparently agreed with pretty much everything I've said. Would you, as townie, find me suspicous to a point where you FOS me late day 3 based on half-assed arguments? 0 sense.
No, you would probably take the "nah, no way he is scum.. Maybe he could? Nah...". Stance you are taking now, it usually comes as a shocker when someone uve assumed town gets painted like that.
Do as I've said, keeping that and his "I an a newbie" stance hes taken all game.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 05 2012 14:51 GMT
#945
Allright I'm gonna eat something. Ill contrast omni/djodref when I get home. Read filter!!
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 05 2012 14:55 GMT
#946
Hello guys !

I'm back from the pub and I'm slightly drunk I don't think that I'm going to be able to stay awake until EOD but I'll stay around for a while because the thread is going out of control right now.

Here is a list of people I want to lynch the most right now, starting to my top scumread:
  • debears
  • Omni
  • Z-Boson
  • Stutters


I'm still convinced that debears is most likely to be the last scum. He has my vote from now on and I don't think I'm going to change it again. If I'm wrong and he is town, I also think that his flip would give us more insight of what is going on in this game, as Shady stated.
Concerning Shady, I would hope more posts from him. I've also read and re-read corrosion's posts and I have still a slight town-read on him.

Here comes the hard part. Why did I put a FoS on Z-Boson ?
While building my cases on debears, I've been looking at kush's action in detail. I still cannot explain myself why he gave up the game in such manner. I have been WIFOMing with debears for a little while and it lead me to think that kush's explosion on D1 might be in fact part of an elaborate bus plan. So I was wondering: who would benefit the most from such a bus ? My answers were Darth of course, Z-Boson, SDM and Stutters.

Maybe I'm derailing complety but with this in the back of my mind, I've been envisaging the cases where one of the confirmed townies is the last scum. But I was refraining myself because it was the conclusion of my exchanges with debears regarding kush's actions. I felt like I was lost in an ocean of WIFOM...

But then Shady jumps in the thread and focuses Z-BosoN. So it reactivated my suspicions from before and I thought I had to share them with everyone. I've been thinking of a few suspicious posts of Z-BosoN and I've referenced them in the thread with my FoS post. I don't want to lynch him today, not at all. But I'm going to get more and more suspicious of him the longer this game goes. That's what I wanted to express with my FoS.

@Z-Boson
I really think that you are overreacting right now. It's not like you are going to get lynched today or that we cannot afford one mislynch. But I'm not afraid, please come at me ^^


On a side note, if the last scum is Omni or even Stutters, he must laugh so hard right now...




Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 05 2012 15:06 GMT
#947
@Shady

I'm not going to vote Z-Boson today. Right now, I believe debears is the last scum. But in the event that he flips town, it would be game-changing information for me.
I would also like you to be more active on this thread.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
October 05 2012 15:16 GMT
#948
Wtf you FOS Boson for framing Debears while he's still your #1 scum read?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 05 2012 15:37 GMT
#949
As I said, debears is my top scumread at the moment (I would say that I believe him to be scum at 60%). But I might be wrong. Debears has made a good job defending himself so I began to envisage the possibility of a town debears. So I took a look at the thread from a reverse PoV. And it appeared to me that Z-Boson was looking suspicious with this assumption.

I would have kept it for myself if shady hadn't bring it up because I came to this conclusion while looking at Kush's behavior. So I thought that I had just been confusing myself with WIFOM. But seeing another player coming with similar thoughts independently made me share my views on this as well.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 16:24:04
October 05 2012 16:12 GMT
#950
Vote Count!

If your vote is not properly formatted it will not be counted. Everyone is required to vote.


debears (1) - Djodref, Djodref, Z-Boson
Omniscient4983 (2) - Z-Boson, RemedySC, Djodref, Sonic Death Monkey
Z-Boson (1) - Shady Sands

Not Voting (4) - Stutters695, debears, Omniscient4983, Sonic Death Monkey

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Currently, nobody is set to be lynched! If you see that your vote is incorrect then pm me. You have about 4 hours left to vote! Deadline is at 20:00 GMT (+00:00)
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 05 2012 16:25 GMT
#951
@Djo

Considering you were third on my scum list, and numbers 1(Omni) and 2 (SS) aren't sensible lynches atm, you are now my top scumread. Omni will most likely get modkilled. SS has posted a case using a similar line of thinking that I did earlier. Also, he took head on the most/2nd most townie person here. What kind of scum would do that when the scum could focus on me, omni, you, or stutters and get easy mislynches?

You, on the other hand, sheeped onto his case, which would be easy for mafia to do, as SS would take the blame. You just repeat Shady's reasoning, and now when Z-Bo attacks you, you instead just transfer back to me after FOSing Z-Bo. Your actions don't make sense from a townie perspective. They make plenty from mafia perspective.

That, considering the rest of your actions this game, give me a strong mafia read.

##Vote: Djodref
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 05 2012 16:26 GMT
#952
Also

@Shady and SDM

Would you like to see my notes on Z-Bo in terms of meta?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 05 2012 16:39 GMT
#953
@debears

Did you even read my latest posts explaining why I want to lynch you first ?

I'm transferring to you because you always have been my top scumread. I voted on Omni in an attempt to pressure him and I'm switching back to you because it has failed.
And also what would be the safest play for a scum Djo ? Don't you think I would better have just look two townies flying poo at each other ?
Right now, it looks like this FoS has shift a lot on focus onto me.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 05 2012 16:41 GMT
#954
Also I would like to ask you a question.

Let's just assume that Omni, SS and me are town. Who is going to be your next scumread ?
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
October 05 2012 16:41 GMT
#955
On October 06 2012 01:25 debears wrote:
@Djo

Considering you were third on my scum list, and numbers 1(Omni) and 2 (SS) aren't sensible lynches atm, you are now my top scumread. Omni will most likely get modkilled. SS has posted a case using a similar line of thinking that I did earlier. Also, he took head on the most/2nd most townie person here. What kind of scum would do that when the scum could focus on me, omni, you, or stutters and get easy mislynches?

You, on the other hand, sheeped onto his case, which would be easy for mafia to do, as SS would take the blame. You just repeat Shady's reasoning, and now when Z-Bo attacks you, you instead just transfer back to me after FOSing Z-Bo. Your actions don't make sense from a townie perspective. They make plenty from mafia perspective.

That, considering the rest of your actions this game, give me a strong mafia read.

##Vote: Djodref


Consider that we need to consolidate 5 votes on one player. If Stutters and Omni doesn't show up and Shady doesn't return, the only ones we can consolidate on seems to be Stutters and Omni. Obviously Stutters isn't an option, which leaves Omni. And Omni is a cancerous lurker and scummy as hell.

But if Stutters and Omni doesn't show up they might be modkilled anyway. Or is this even guaranteed? What a fucked up situation.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
October 05 2012 16:43 GMT
#956
Don't know though, according to Alsn's post in early thread 4 should be enough.

Do we need 5 votes or is 4 enough?
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
October 05 2012 16:43 GMT
#957
On October 06 2012 01:26 debears wrote:
Also

@Shady and SDM

Would you like to see my notes on Z-Bo in terms of meta?


Yes.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 05 2012 16:47 GMT
#958
I agree the situation is pretty fucked up...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 05 2012 16:49 GMT
#959
I'm ok to consolidate on Omni if we cannot get sure that he is going to be modkilled.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
October 05 2012 16:53 GMT
#960
On October 06 2012 01:25 debears wrote:
@Djo

Considering you were third on my scum list, and numbers 1(Omni) and 2 (SS) aren't sensible lynches atm, you are now my top scumread. Omni will most likely get modkilled. SS has posted a case using a similar line of thinking that I did earlier. Also, he took head on the most/2nd most townie person here. What kind of scum would do that when the scum could focus on me, omni, you, or stutters and get easy mislynches?


What were your reasons for wanting to lynch SS earlier?
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