EPTAnd where the is Remedy, I'd imagine he'll show up at least. But not even that's for sure.
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
And where the is Remedy, I'd imagine he'll show up at least. But not even that's for sure. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
SS dropped in with a vote for me then left. He hadn't posted much, so I had to use corrosion's posts as a baseline. If Omni does make an appearance, thus ending his threat of mk, I will vote for omni. If Omni doesn't make an appearance, and he is mafia, then the modkill will handle him. | ||
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RemedySC
Canada176 Posts
We will have to come to a consensus, all of us have to be voting on one person if stutters and omni don't show up to secure a lynch. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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Djodref
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debears
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:12 debears wrote: is shady not coming back? Who knows? Judging by his past posting habits my best guess is no. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
In the event that Stutters and Omni don't make an appearance, can we change the number of majority votes required? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Looking at the latest mod post, it makes 5 people to have a lynch. We could make sure to lynch Omni for sure, modkill or not modkill. Stutters is not going to happen. I want to lynch debears but nobody seems to want him dead anymore. Debears and Z-Boson want to lynch me. They could do it with the help of RSC and SDM. I doubt that Shady would be happy to lynch me since I've shown support of his Z-Boson case. But you need still one more vote which should come from Stutters or Omni... I don't want to go to bed and find out that I have been lynched in the morning. I'll stay around... | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
By the way, if you are here, can you find out who are you going to go after if Omni and me flip town today ? | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Djodref
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Djodref
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On September 28 2012 15:22 Djodref wrote: @DarthPunk For your information, i consider the comments of debears on my posts legitimate. Let me say that I even don't like them. Currently reading the guides and older game analysis. On September 29 2012 16:26 Djodref wrote: @debears so let me reformulate my question so we can understand each other better this time What is your read about me so far ?
You can use quantitative adjectives  Fluffy, useless post. -snip- I understand why I'm on your null read list so far but I'd like to point out something to you and everybody. Here is the post where Kush has made his scumslip. + Show Spoiler + I'm actually proud of this one because he did it while answering one of my questions ^^ I think I deserve some town credit for that one even if I did buy kush's explanations about this slip later on. On September 30 2012 22:57 Djodref wrote: Hello guys ! I understand your suspicions but I'm just a town newbie with a lot of bad posts. I'll try my best to step up and post cases. If you don't mind, I'm going to build a case on debears before addressing your attacks because I feel I might screwing up myself more if I spend too much time defending your cases against me. But I can shortly explain my backflip on Kush. At the beginning of the game, I was not confident at all to nail a scum on day 1. I have even been called for it but, as a newbie, I didn't think I could have a correct read on someone (be it town or scum) and was really afraid of a mislynch. So, at that time, when Darth found Kush scumslip, I was not ready to believe it was so easy to find a scum. That's why I bought kush's explanations for his scumslip. After that I went out and slept and when I came back to the thread I found all the crazy posts from kush and also SDM case. I realized at this point that the slip was indeed a scum slip. Also I realized that not being confident is bad for town so I boost up my confidence. I called the scumteam kush/debears/corrosion and also was more and more sure of kush being red. On October 01 2012 00:14 Djodref wrote: One last thing, I was having a FoS on corrosion but I looked carefully at his thread and I have now a town read on him. His play looks similar to mine so I think he is just a newbie with bad posts as well. His case against Darth was poor but newbies have a lot of pressure to build original cases to establish their townieness. So I can see town motivation for it. He also admitted that the case could have been weak. Also he defended himself in an honest and clear way. So I understand now why people attacking him can be seen as suspicious. So far I know that debears and me have been on him. I think now that debears was hoping to push a mislynch on corrosion. unFoS: corrosion (Note, also gave out town read on corrosion). I mean, the guy is on a megaphone saying "I'm a newbie town!!". I find this to be ridiculous for a townie who wants to be taken seriously, which is also what he is passing himself up as. Note as well that he tries to distance himself from leshrac pretty hardcore: On October 03 2012 03:10 Djodref wrote: [/green][/green]Please modkill Lesrah hard ! I can understand the sentiment as a townie, but it makes more sense to come from a scum wanting to distance himself from another scum. This alone would have been useless, but look at how he also tries distancing himself from the idea that he is scum: On October 03 2012 11:30 Djodref wrote: Good morning everybody ! [joke] Please have a look at my last post about Lesrah. I've just corrected the formatting  I think I deserve some town credit for this post. I also was the one asking the most for news about Lesrah in this game ! [/joke] On a serious note, I think it adds more weight to my explanations about kush state of mind and why he exploded. Could you imagine yourself win a game when you have two votes and serious scumslip against you, your partner has also one vote and the last one is just the lurkiest player you have ever seen (all this in the first 24h of the game) ? I'm almost sure he was genuinely cracking now. He was so proud of his unkilled, undefeated streak. That made him gamethrow and give away his partner. So, debears, how about you concede now ? This game is kinda lame anyway... @Alsn I'm sorry, I should not have been sheeping like this. Rest in peace ! This post is downright ridiculous. No one was giving a rat's ass about leshrac, and he brings it up as a joke that it should confirm his townieness. i.e. he just admitted that he was thinking that distancing himself from now confirmed scum is could possibly make him townier. Also, from this very post, note the difference in attitude. This raises a huge red flag. So far we've seen a highly undecisive, doubtful, and self-proclaimed confused newbie who lacks confidence. Now, suddenly, he's absolutely confident that debears is scum? This is a very sudden shift in attitute. Another prime example, from later in his filter: On October 03 2012 22:12 Djodref wrote: @SDM Last time I've checked Omni's filter, I had a slight town-read on him. I think he is a newbie town sheeping onto cases. To be honest, I think the same of the late corrosion, Remedy and Omni. I guess my filter has a little of the same flavor. So I easily sympathize with them and don't try to look more into it. I think we are too gullible and take the cases from more experienced players as the truth itself. After that we are just reading the thread with confirmation bias so it seems natural and ok to jump on bandwagons. But at the same time, we don't want to admit that we are just sheeping so it ends up looking very washy-washy. So when Omni says "I could reference Z-Boson case", I think he just has a strong town read on him and he is sheeping him. Your points are correct nevertheless and I hope they are going to push Omni to shape up and produce better posts. @Everyone This game isn't over yet ! Don't be all laid back and trust the outcome of the game to Darth, Z-BosoN and the more experienced and active players. There is still a little possibility for them to be scum and, if this is the case, then this is the doom of Newb-Lurky Ville ! As for me, I've spent too much time looking at poisonous wine glasses lately but I'll try to shape up tomorrow. Now he takes the tone of a confident townie. He also brings up town reads on omni, but then decides to sheep me yet again going against omni, despite his town read and his proclamation that people shouldn't sheep. Confidence gone again. I'm guessing he doesn't want to sheep too blindly, so he gives us yet another town read: On October 04 2012 19:27 Djodref wrote: This post is a prepared post to explain my slight town-read on Omni while he is on the spot at the beginning of D3. I'm not going to post it as soon as finish so it might be irrelevant depending on the events in the thread. But as everyone is sleeping or dead, I think it should be ok. Before reading my post, I recommend everyone to check his filter twice with the assumption that he is scum then the assumption that he is town. It's not hard nor long and you can forge your own opinion this way. Nevertheless, here is the points in his filter which speak for him:
But he really needs to post more so... Lot's of interesting in that post. Anyways, he goes on to reference the last scum more times later on: On October 05 2012 01:42 Djodref wrote: I'm off to bed guys ! I don't blame the inactive people too much because this game is now 7 against one. Moreover I guess they trust the outcome of the game to the confirmed townies and active players. @the last scum Unless you think you can take all of us all down, I think you might better concede. Look at what your dead teammates have done to this thread with their quick deaths ! All the excitement is gone now :s Quite weird indeed. It's like he is indirectly trying to convince us that there is no way he's scum. His approach on darth/kush He mentions this about corrosion: On September 30 2012 06:09 Djodref wrote: Hello guys ! I'm not heading to my room drunken once again and I feel really happy about kush's flip. I would like people to focus more on corrosion than debears because corrosion tired to cast a scummy shadow on Darth while deabears looks more genuine. Game is not over yet but I have to say GG  When he himself, initially attempted acting against Darth, but quickly gave up: On September 28 2012 12:54 Djodref wrote: @DarthPunk Could you detail the reason you think Kush has never been NKed in the games he rolled town ? I found the quoted part a little illogical. On September 28 2012 13:27 Djodref wrote: It's a little illogical because you are saying that he looks scummy as town or as scum and yet you are able to make the difference between and scummy town Kush and a scummy scum Kush. I also read through the last Newbie Mini Mafia games and I must agree he didn't mention night kills so much when he was town iirc. I'm looking forward his explanations about his town read on you and I hope more people can give their opinion about your case on Kush. As I was also reading the game where you were mafia roleblocker and I saw your ability to flame with Shiaopi, I'm not buying it yet. So it's a pretty silly thing to use against somebody when you yourself hinted you aren't buying DP's legitimacy in posting. His stance on me I'm not gonna bother quoting everything, but he's sheeped every single case I've made. Every. Single. One. He's even sheeped my attitude regarding debears: On October 03 2012 13:57 Djodref wrote: @debears I'm not going to be stupid so I'm going to prepare for the eventuality of you being town. We are now 8 townies against one scum so I guess it's not going to be easy to find him if it's not you. By the way, who is the last scum on your opinion ? I'm going to look closely on the players who would have benefited from a hypothetical strategic bus of kush. Would you at least agree that it's very unlikely that kush wasn't strategically bussed if you are not scum ? @everyone Please somebody kill debears tonight, I don't want to lose my sanity into the dark shadows of WIFOM... On October 05 2012 15:20 Djodref wrote: @debears Ok, I'll get through it. Could you be as kind as giving me the links for his previous games ? Also, you are still on my scumlist, but I would like to say that the more you post, the less I want to lynch you. Isn't it strange ? It seems like he is hiding himself behind me, like an insecure little townie indeed. Now, I'm sure everyone has already felt like that towards a player, and what do you do as soon as someone throws dirt on someone you've been agreeing to all game long? FoS him? I don't think so. Even if you do have suspicions it's ridiculous to think that you'd switch views just like that. But he's not going all out against me, he's just, you know, slightly agreeing on a case where I forged evidence on debears to make him look scum, and then keeps himself @ debears being scum regardless. Doesn't want to go full 180 does he? I still have my doubts on debears, and my doubts on Omniscient. I was confident on djodref, but his whole "debears is scum I'm sure of it" theory is being consistent, but the problem I have is it's being consistent because it's just a general sheeping of my posts and sentiments. On October 05 2012 01:18 Djodref wrote: lol debears Let's keep our OMGUS war for later if you don't mind. I'm gonna prepare for this but I'm not gonna pollute the thread anymore with it. But rest assured, I have still some cards in my hands ^^ So I'm wondering what sort of cards you have. Let us see them. If you really think debears should be lynched, the time is now, and you better give some good strong arguments. I've also made a post defending some of the arguments against him, but I'll admit I'm still quite uneasy on debears. So please, show us your cards to get him lynched. Until then, jokes on you: Also, I encourage SDM, RSC, and Stutters (if you still exist), to review this case I've made, and review everything he's said on debears and see if you guys take it as genuine. I'm nowhere near 100% sure on my read, despite saying I was pretty confident earlier on. In my opinion he's a good lynch. ##Unvote ##Vote Djodref | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
"It takes #/2 rounded up votes to lynch somebody. In case of a tie, the person who got there first gets the prize." | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
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Stutters695
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debears
United States2516 Posts
I agree about Djo. Your points are similar to ones I had in my notes plus you add a few more. Remember that last game I suddenly turned on thrawn, the most townie person, when I was scum to secure a mislynch. This feels similar to that with Djo. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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