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On September 11 2012 00:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 00:02 Keirathi wrote:
So catching up, something is bothering me:
Why would scum Zeph pick a fight with town marv? Seems like there would be much, much easier people he could push today, and just get rid of marv at night. So what motivation would he have to trying to get marv lynched? motivation for getting one of the best players lynched. hmm. hmmmmm. Something I learnt from NMM2 after chatting with GMarshal was about this motivation. Zephirdd picks a fight with me for precisely the reasons you're ummming about there. The point in question with NMM2 was this - I caught MrZentor in one of my traps, and proceeded to gather town support for his lynch. What did Zentor do? He went balls to the wall attacking me and trying to discredit me, which actually only furthered the votes gathering on him. Except in the end I *unvoted* Zentor and took town off him because I couldn't believe scum would actively try to attack me and get themselves lynched. And that was the point - of course scum shouldn't do that, which is why he did it.
Except i'm not zentor and I dont play like his insane self, and that I'd shoot you day1 every game as scum.
Also your post is pure wifom which is interesting when you just tried to use that against me.
finally, i was wrong that dirkzor is lynched every game, i thought of that because he was shot last game by a town and i constantly remember people throwing shit at him because of some of his insane posts, and marv knows it just as much as I do.
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Night kill stuff isn't pure wifom
from mafiawiki: "At present, NK analysis is considered simply another possibly-reliable piece of evidence, neither useless nor authoritative."
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On September 11 2012 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
Alright.
I think it's worth saying again that Ange777 died last night. She had the most well-formed suspicions of Zephirdd and in this game she wasn't necessarily the most obvious shot otherwise.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT MARV
ange was one of the most solid townies on the clusterfuck of day1, and i remember someone saying she is a good hunter as well. If the setup has a rb(which I nelieve it does, because I have no suspicion of keirathi) then scum would fear a medic and not shoot veterans like you and me.
I, for one, would never believe a medic would protect you after this day 1 and would shoot you no problem. If someone was to be protected, it'd be keirathi from the top of my head.
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On September 11 2012 00:35 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 00:09 marvellosity wrote:On September 11 2012 00:02 Keirathi wrote:
So catching up, something is bothering me:
Why would scum Zeph pick a fight with town marv? Seems like there would be much, much easier people he could push today, and just get rid of marv at night. So what motivation would he have to trying to get marv lynched? motivation for getting one of the best players lynched. hmm. hmmmmm. Something I learnt from NMM2 after chatting with GMarshal was about this motivation. Zephirdd picks a fight with me for precisely the reasons you're ummming about there. The point in question with NMM2 was this - I caught MrZentor in one of my traps, and proceeded to gather town support for his lynch. What did Zentor do? He went balls to the wall attacking me and trying to discredit me, which actually only furthered the votes gathering on him. Except in the end I *unvoted* Zentor and took town off him because I couldn't believe scum would actively try to attack me and get themselves lynched. And that was the point - of course scum shouldn't do that, which is why he did it. Except i'm not zentor and I dont play like his insane self, and that I'd shoot you day1 every game as scum. Also your post is pure wifom which is interesting when you just tried to use that against me. finally, i was wrong that dirkzor is lynched every game, i thought of that because he was shot last game by a town and i constantly remember people throwing shit at him because of some of his insane posts, and marv knows it just as much as I do.
stop saying what I do and don't know. Obviously my read on Dirkzor is more developed than your blatantly untrue one. I never had him marked down as scum in PTP3 (read obsQT), nor do i find his posts insane.
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And pure wifom was on you saying that Im attacking your, therefore scum because thats what zentor did on another game. You're not even reading my quotes.
its late, got school. Good afternoon.
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Why I think v7 is scum and should die:
Day 1 what did he do? search for scum. Scum who? Risen. Why this is bad? He posted exclusively about Risen, and has the interaction with others like brick's with air. We need to clear out the potential scum leads, for less "who know's" during LYLO (hopefully not happening), and less not useful people, why is v7 not useful? While his pushing for Risen was useful, it's not useful now, he already flipped, and what's in his filter besides pushing Risen?
On September 09 2012 09:49 vaderseven wrote:That narrows down the setup types possible OR you are lieing in order to make us think that. Not saying you are a liar btw.
On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.
I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active.
On September 10 2012 16:54 vaderseven wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 15:33 Dirkzor wrote:On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.
I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active. Then answer me this: Who is scum? I have no leads atm.
##Vote: vaderseven
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that's not wifom, that's explaining possible motivation for scum actions. stop twisting.
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On September 11 2012 00:41 Bluelightz wrote:Why I think v7 is scum and should die: Day 1 what did he do? search for scum. Scum who? Risen. Why this is bad? He posted exclusively about Risen, and has the interaction with others like brick's with air. We need to clear out the potential scum leads, for less "who know's" during LYLO (hopefully not happening), and less not useful people, why is v7 not useful? While his pushing for Risen was useful, it's not useful now, he already flipped, and what's in his filter besides pushing Risen? Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 09:49 vaderseven wrote:On September 09 2012 07:05 Keirathi wrote:
GG Ange.
I was roleblocked. That narrows down the setup types possible OR you are lieing in order to make us think that. Not saying you are a liar btw. Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.
I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active. Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 16:54 vaderseven wrote:On September 10 2012 15:33 Dirkzor wrote:On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.
I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active. Then answer me this: Who is scum? I have no leads atm.
##Vote: vaderseven
you never answered my question. YOu thought I was the most valuable player Day 1 then?
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On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.
I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active.
HELLOOOO!!!
Where did all your activity go? I want to vote you more and more V7.
I'll try to figure out the marv/zeph things later.
Zpeh could you point out why marv i scummy besides meta stuff and his lack of cases this game?
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On September 11 2012 00:39 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
Alright.
I think it's worth saying again that Ange777 died last night. She had the most well-formed suspicions of Zephirdd and in this game she wasn't necessarily the most obvious shot otherwise. HOLY FUCKING SHIT MARV ange was one of the most solid townies on the clusterfuck of day1, and i remember someone saying she is a good hunter as well. If the setup has a rb(which I nelieve it does, because I have no suspicion of keirathi) then scum would fear a medic and not shoot veterans like you and me. I, for one, would never believe a medic would protect you after this day 1 and would shoot you no problem. If someone was to be protected, it'd be keirathi from the top of my head.
I can't imagine any scumteam that would be more scared of me than marv, so I don't know why medic protect would go on me over marv unless the medic had really good reason to believe that marv was scum. Granted, Risen's ranting about marv at the end of the day could have potentially made the medic wary of marv, but that's a longshot (and a mistake I personally made in DFMM, where I convinced myself marv was suspicious and protected sciberbia n1 instead of the obvious choice in marv).
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On September 11 2012 00:39 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
Alright.
I think it's worth saying again that Ange777 died last night. She had the most well-formed suspicions of Zephirdd and in this game she wasn't necessarily the most obvious shot otherwise. HOLY FUCKING SHIT MARV ange was one of the most solid townies on the clusterfuck of day1, and i remember someone saying she is a good hunter as well. If the setup has a rb (which I nelieve it does, because I have no suspicion of keirathi) then scum would fear a medic and not shoot veterans like you and me. I, for one, would never believe a medic would protect you after this day 1 and would shoot you no problem. If someone was to be protected, it'd be keirathi from the top of my head.
On September 10 2012 09:06 Zephirdd wrote:
If there is a BoxeR, claim now. Keirathi's claim will be rendered true if there are two BoxeRs, or false if there is only one, and if it's false he is confirmed scum, otherwise he is most likely town. Which is immensely helpful when considering other players reactions.
So Zephirdd wants blues to claim to 'confirm' Kei, the most townie guy in the thread compared to him? scum...
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EBWOP: *according to, not compared to.
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Further to this, it can clearly shown to be scum motivated.
Why does he want BLUES TO CLAIM on his strongest townread?
If one Boxer claims, and a scum counterclaims and another townie claims, where are we now? In a mess of confusion.
Why does Zephirdd want this possible mess when Kei is his towniest read? Why does he need Kei confirmed BY OUTING BLUES?
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On September 11 2012 01:09 marvellosity wrote:
Further to this, it can clearly shown to be scum motivated.
Why does he want BLUES TO CLAIM on his strongest townread?
If one Boxer claims, and a scum counterclaims and another townie claims, where are we now? In a mess of confusion.
Why does Zephirdd want this possible mess when Kei is his towniest read? Why does he need Kei confirmed BY OUTING BLUES?
Yea, I completely agree. It just doesn't make any sense, and is totally scum motivated. That's why I questioned him about it when he first said it, and add on that I'm his towniest read? Yea, no deal.
##vote: Zephirdd
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On September 11 2012 00:54 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.
I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active. HELLOOOO!!! Where did all your activity go? I want to vote you more and more V7. I'll try to figure out the marv/zeph things later. Zpeh could you point out why marv i scummy besides meta stuff and his lack of cases this game?
How about the way he was ultra inactive during the last 24hrs, but got ultra active when called out?
or how he tunnel vision'd Risen while setting up my lynch all while flip-flopping?
Idk, I can't point out specific stuff on my phone. I'll post and answer one quote at a time, and there is a high chance i'll be ninjad if you care about this stuff
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On September 11 2012 01:14 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 00:54 Dirkzor wrote:On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.
I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active. HELLOOOO!!! Where did all your activity go? I want to vote you more and more V7. I'll try to figure out the marv/zeph things later. Zpeh could you point out why marv i scummy besides meta stuff and his lack of cases this game? How about the way he was ultra inactive during the last 24hrs, but got ultra active when called out? or how he tunnel vision'd Risen while setting up my lynch all while flip-flopping? Idk, I can't point out specific stuff on my phone. I'll post and answer one quote at a time, and there is a high chance i'll be ninjad if you care about this stuff
how can i have tunnel vision and flip flop? that's a direct contradiction.
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On September 11 2012 01:09 marvellosity wrote:
Further to this, it can clearly shown to be scum motivated.
Why does he want BLUES TO CLAIM on his strongest townread?
If one Boxer claims, and a scum counterclaims and another townie claims, where are we now? In a mess of confusion.
Why does Zephirdd want this possible mess when Kei is his towniest read? Why does he need Kei confirmed BY OUTING BLUES?
That situation would give us 2 scum straight up, and win the game for town, wtf is wrong with you?
besides, I know there won't be a boxer claim. I also know that, if town is half smart, they'll let me live. Because I am Nestea. I'll post the breadcumbs in a sec. Too bad I won't be able to use my powers due to roleblockersm but hopetorture can protect me or keirathi.
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On September 08 2012 12:53 Zephirdd wrote:
In two days I should have some clear reads on players though, making sure who is on whose's side. I'll start with bluelightz - I won't let you get away.
I posted this separatedly for a reason. Here I am crumbing my parity cop abilities. Two days was in reference to two ingame days. Bluelightz was my night1 target.
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On September 10 2012 12:42 Zephirdd wrote:
Incredibly enough, My thoughts on the boxer thing is that, No matter what happens, any amount of boxer claims, Even if only one claims, Should help us find scum in incredibly easy manner. Trust me on this one. i'm Eager to see what you will thing of marv, because i think his play has been incredibly Anti-town this game.
capital letters spell IMNESTEA and I start with "incredibly" in the hopes that keir would realize the crumb here.
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On September 11 2012 01:22 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 12:42 Zephirdd wrote:
Incredibly enough, My thoughts on the boxer thing is that, No matter what happens, any amount of boxer claims, Even if only one claims, Should help us find scum in incredibly easy manner. Trust me on this one. i'm Eager to see what you will thing of marv, because i think his play has been incredibly Anti-town this game. capital letters spell IMNESTEA and I start with "incredibly" in the hopes that keir would realize the crumb here.
you crumbed this AFTER you made your case on me. just rofl, zeph.
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