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On September 17 2012 17:18 ShiaoPi wrote:
hey shady mind popping into the thread instead of blogging away? IF you are town (quite a huge stretch now imo) you should be here sharing reads and stuff or trying to convince us otherwise, right now you are like mattchew when his fakeclaim got snuffed out.
@Darthpunk:
What are your thoughts right now?
Hi. I am just rereading it all again. But some things to note so far.
Shady looks extremely scummy from the last passage of play. He really Pushed for a mislynch on gravan even with better candidates who were even more guilty of similar things. (rewok) and the byplay during the previous nights play has really looked bad for him. I have played and obsed shady for 3 out of his 4 games and his meta has been 100% out from those games. Which included a scum game. One thing about that though is that I would absolutely expect shady to have been in the thread pushing a read or defending himself. Something which he has not really done at all recently. I think he is a good lynch candidate. For me it is weird because I had a town read on him this game. But I guess I was wrong.
On September 15 2012 08:06 Shady Sands wrote:
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I have a few other players who look scummy to me:
Rewok
ShiaoPi
Mementoss
DarthPunk
I'm going to be looking through their filters and will get something out before the daypost.
Final note: in case this isn't obvious already, S&B lynch should serve as strong town-tells for Sloosh and Hopeless1der.
This post where he thinks that everyone but him who voted for Gravan is scummy seems like a ploy to misdirect attention away from himself, especially after he pushed it so hard and pointedly asked for people to vote for him. He then finds no one on this list scummy and pushes on BM.
Further. I am concerned about the Following players.
BM
Rewok
Grush
I think scum could easily be hiding in the midst of those three. I had a town read on BM amazingly (this was mainly due to the consistent assurances of the vets that he was probably town.) but reading through. The 2 people who made these claims flipped 3rd party and as toad said. THEY HAD A VESTED INTEREST IN DERAILING TOWN as we were so far ahead after the mattchew lynch and gk flip.
So BM is worrying due to his playstyle being unreadable and all the assurances about him were from non town.
Rewok is hard lurking and only makes one post for his vote. and then sheeps the popular choice.
Grush is trolling or doesn't give a shit.
All these players are a liability during LYLO. I still feel BM is townie just due to the fact that he seems to actually give a shit about town.
The other two clearly do not give a shit about town. And that makes me fucking nervous.
I have a strong town read on Kreb. He is playing really well and is actively pro town. Especially as a replacement.
Also I don;t think this has been posted so I got it together quickly. (if it has I apologise)
DAY 4 VOTECOUNT
S&B Sloosh, MMToss, Mav, Kreb, Imallinson, Hopeless
Gravan Rewok, SS, Shiao Pi, Toad, DarthPunk
Maverick32X S&B, Grush57
Shady Sands BM
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^notice my vote on shadysands... before the thread?
nice OMGUS DarthPunk, considering I've been calling you scum for days
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On September 17 2012 13:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Hi I am finally back. My ex and I just went through the final stages of a long and messy breakup and that is why I was absent from the thread. I am going to read through from where I left off. (my vote on gravan) and try and catch up. I have skimmed the thread and read the night and day posts. But that is about it.
this is really, really scummy
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On September 17 2012 18:15 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 13:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Hi I am finally back. My ex and I just went through the final stages of a long and messy breakup and that is why I was absent from the thread. I am going to read through from where I left off. (my vote on gravan) and try and catch up. I have skimmed the thread and read the night and day posts. But that is about it. this is really, really scummy
It is true. Meh. If you think I am lying about shit like that to win a game of mafia that is your prerogative I suppose.
On September 17 2012 18:14 Bill Murray wrote:
^notice my vote on shadysands... before the thread?
nice OMGUS DarthPunk, considering I've been calling you scum for days
I did notice your vote on shady. I said nothing about you voting/not voting for shady. But at this point I am not surprised you didn;t read my post properly.
It is not an OMGUS. I said I was leaning townie on you at least twice in that post. I just said you were a liability. Because of posts like these. You get shit wrong. You don't read things properly. You troll and post badly. You are unclear and difficult to read. I lean on you being town because to me it seems like you give a shit. But it is far from certain and you being you is a liability during endgame.
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On September 17 2012 18:14 Bill Murray wrote:
^notice my vote on shadysands... before the thread?
Wait. WTF IS THIS SHIT?? Why does you voting shady first mean anything? Also others voted shady yesterday and ##unvoted. I don;t see how pointing this out is beneficial at all.
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We should be looking at hardcore lurkers / unreadable players afterwards imo (assuming SS get lynched, which theres no reason to assume he wont atm). Rewok is my best bet. BM/Grush comes after although BM kind of has started to seem more serious recently. We have no reason to not believe ShiaoPi's claim and Im gonna put all S&B voters on the towny side for now at least. That leaves DarthPunk, who is more of a "feels town" kind of player to me, but I cant say I have much concrete to say to back that up with. I also felt SS to be townish previously so I'll probably have to take another clear look at DP at some point.
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Darth Punk has also gone very much under the radar, dont think anyone has ever brought up anything on him, so that might be another reason for everyone to take a serious look at him. Should he be scum it should be possible to find something on him, compared to Rewok/Grush.
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On September 17 2012 18:39 Kreb wrote:
Darth Punk has also gone very much under the radar, dont think anyone has ever brought up anything on him, so that might be another reason for everyone to take a serious look at him. Should he be scum it should be possible to find something on him, compared to Rewok/Grush.
Well only if you count BM who has called me scum for like 2 cycles. But I welcome you all to take a look at me and would be surprised if you haven't already.
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Thread is dead. I am going to Vote for shady. I hope he comes and defends himself. if he doesn't, it is pretty damning. I will stay up a bit later. (It is 11pm) and see if anything happens. I have set an alarm for 6am my time which is 2 hours before deadline. That is when I will check back in. Unless of course something actually happens and I stay up late. Shiao Pi! you are close to my Time Zone. Got any further input?
##Vote: Shady Sands
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
I actually am starting to get a little paranoid about this lynch. Objectively Shady does look like the best lynch imo, but the lack of resistance to it got me worried >_> (unless we count rewok's silent objection)
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On September 17 2012 22:35 ShiaoPi wrote:
I actually am starting to get a little paranoid about this lynch. Objectively Shady does look like the best lynch imo, but the lack of resistance to it got me worried >_> (unless we count rewok's silent objection)
That is why I said I hope he comes and defends himself. I mean at the moment he is looking guilty with his complete absence and did look ultra scummy during the S&B lynch and the following night. Who do you think would make a good alternate option?
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Speaking as of right now out of gut feeling a lynch on rewok would be okay as well. Would have to do a throrough reread on other candidates to consider them.
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Well a Rewok - Shady scum team sort of fits everything pretty well. I would really like to hear from shady though. And rewok hasn't even voted yet.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
ugh thread is as dead as it can get >_>
anyone else here NOT from East Asia/Australia?
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On September 17 2012 23:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
ugh thread is as dead as it can get >_>
anyone else here NOT from East Asia/Australia?
LOL. Doubt it.
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Its usually dead around now since its work/school time for EU and sleep time for NA.
Plus, its quite obvious whos gonna get lynched. Some talk about whats coming after doesnt hurt, but a lot still depends on the flip.
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well. if that is the case. I am off to bed. See you before deadline gents.
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Unless someone comes in like sloosh did with S&B that is. Or Shady makes an effort to prevent it. Other than those options its kinda downtime atm....
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
I'll be heading to sleep now too, but will probably miss deadline like always
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FYI things have been super busy as of late. I likely won't be able to return to the thread in time for my inevitable green flip, but until then here is what I have to say:
First, I am vanilla town.
Second, I supported SnB because, again, I thought he was supporting my effort to lynch Grav, who I thought was scum. I found it unlikely at the time that scum would bus a partner when the outcome of the lynch was still very much up in the air, so that's why I got a townread off SnB.
Third, I'd like town to take a good look at two people who supported me on the Grav lynch as possible suspects.
ShiaoPi
Darthpunk
All of them have soft defended my scummy behavior in the prior days, and tried to redirect town around while remaining scummy and quiet. Now both are bussing me quick after ImAllinson started the wagon on me.
Fourth, town please take a look at Allinson's filter as well.
These are the flipped scum whose interactions might be useful for town to read through:
GK
SnB
(Mattchew doesn't count as I think all the scum were trying not to interact with him until after Palmar came down with his ruling--then they probably bussed him like crazy.)
Sorry I can't be more of a help this game--work/IRL stuff has caught up. Gotta show my mom around Chicago later this afternoon and celebrate my birthday tonight, then spend most of the later evening using my primary school Mandarin skills to talk to potential investors during China daylight hours.
Good luck town.
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