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Heyhey!
Sorry guys I ended up being so tired after getting home from work that I just went to bed.
I am not entirely happy with the progress made on this thread in my absence, but this is more because I don't have a clear read on anyone after a quick read through than any lack of effort on the part of you guys. I should probably stop expecting people to do my work for me :/
I'll give you a quick update on my thoughts after one read through, and then double back and read it again to try and pick up on anything I've missed.
The case of Kush: I think Kush is playing so fast and loose that if he is Mafia
a) nobody will take him seriously enough to allow him to influence their reads. The Mafia need to convince the town to mislynch, otherwise probability dictates the town will most likely lynch the mafia by accident.
b) We will know when he does not come through with the 5min jailing plan.
If he is town, he is likely JK, so either the mafia will use a shot on him, or we have a JK. Either is better than lynching him.
In summary, we stand to gain more by letting a town Kush live than we stand to lose by letting a scum kush live. On top of this, I'm not the only one getting a null read on him as a pressured newbie, and probability dictates that all else being equal (which a null read is), the odds of him actually being scum are only 25%. IMO any more time spent on Kush until night time is time wasted.
I'll be posting my other reads shortly.
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I thinly spaghettis reasoning is exactly what I was trying to say. It makes no sense to vote for me after I roleclaimed, which is why shady voting for me instantly is the most suspicious thing any of us have dome yet. Therefore shady should be suspect number 1.
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On August 25 2012 10:22 kushm4sta wrote:
I thinly spaghettis reasoning is exactly what I was trying to say. It makes no sense to vote for me after I roleclaimed, which is why shady voting for me instantly is the most suspicious thing any of us have dome yet. Therefore shady should be suspect number 1.
Your claim was really, really terrible. Just saying.
And I find it interesting that you feel the need to bring this up again, after literally EVERYBODY thinks we should concentrate on other things by now. You should be happy with that instead.
Meh, I'm really tired and getting...cranky, I guess. Gotta go to sleep now.
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EBWOP:
That summary made no sense. I meant to say:
We have less to lose by allowing a scum kush live than we have by lynching a town kush.
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On Shady Sands:
His response to my earlier case is very reasonable, but also applies to any pointlessly critical behaviour. My read on Shady has gone back to relatively neutral, but I'll be keeping an eye on him, and I suggest we all do the same (though this goes without saying I guess). I do not like how he simultaneously asserts we should ignore Kush, but then votes for him. I'll be going over this in my second reading.
The following players I am finding difficulty in getting a feel for:
Fubu
Dandel Ion
Alsn
Lvdr
Dandel Ion and Fubu I believe have posted relatively little substance, I might be wrong, but this is just my gut feeling after my quick read through. I'll do another read through soon to confirm.
I am not sure on the content of Alsn and Lvdr, I am having a lot of difficulty keeping them apart in my mind as they both have names consisting of four random letters. I'll try and pay more attention to them on my second run.
Thrawn seems okay so far. I'm getting a mild town read on him, but just as with Shady, I'll be keeping an eye on him, as I believe his experience and current position would make for a particularly dangerous mafia if he happens to be one.
At this moment in time, my biggest scum read is WeeTee. He has been lurking pretty hard and contributed only vague assertions, as well as dodging requests for him to make reads. He may be very busy, but IMO he needs to put more in before he is bandwagoned for a (mis)lynch.
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On August 25 2012 08:36 Alsn wrote:So, right now I get the feeling that the feud between Shady and Lvdr is what is most likely to yield fruitful results, seeing as kush has been told several times over about what the situation is and what he should be doing. With that in mind, I feel I must take Lvdr's side in this. I had had a long running suspicion against Lvdr since before I went to bed and was planning on making a case against him when I woke up, this was mostly because of his general lack of content in his posts. Upon closer inspection of his filter however, while he has a lot of very short posts, to me they all seem to lead in the proper direction, often mirroring my own thoughts on the matter. Not so with Shady, the last thing he wrote of substance before I went to bed was the following: + Show Spoiler +On August 24 2012 15:43 Shady Sands wrote:Oh :S my bad then. I'm going to say we should just do one of two things:
1) We collectively decide he's town and ignore him as a major target for the remainder of D1, move the discussion onto other folks
2) We lynch him first and get him out of the way
Let's figure this out fast, before we use up the rest of D1 just talking about him. At first, I thought this was a sound argument, but upon closer inspection I get the feeling that he just wanted to be able to later on get a wagon going against kush and I'll explain why. The first option of ignoring him completely just seems too extreme. Why is this the only other option? This sounds to me as if he is trying to force everyone to conclude that only the second option is worthwhile. Also, this statement is similar to other statements made by myself and others(Shady included) earlier in the thread that we should focus on other people instead of tunneling kush, but with a subtle difference. It suggests to ignore him completely! Then he tries to stress us into making a decision fast. The argument can be made for stressing the point being a town motivated idea to spur on conversation and getting out hopeful scumslips, but he completely abandons the idea later when it does not take hold. Later on he accuses Lvdr and puts a FoS on him. That was something that I was in full agreement with before I went to bed but as the thread continued on, I no longer agree. Lvdr having a town agenda makes sense to me from the posts he has made. Letting up on kush when we all agree that it's not leading anywhere could be seen as a scum move due to everyone already having come to the same conclusion, but on the other hand doubling down on kush makes very little sense to me. The issue of the roleclaim is something I want kush to defend himself against, but until such a thing happens and we get closer to having to come to a consensus(I'll be awake from now until lynch time), I don't think kush is someone we should be focusing too much on. He absolutely must start partaking in dicussion without knee-jerk responses though! Because of this, I'm changing my read on kushm4sta to a null read, while declaring a: FoS Shady SandsThis is all with the caveat that I cannot deny Shady's last point about wanting input from Weetee, myself and Spaghetticus, and I'm not entirely happy with kush's, mkfuba's and Dandel Ion's contributions so far either.
You FoS'd me early D1 too. No need to FoS me again.
Again, my PoV on Kush is that
1) His post quality is so poor that spending an excessive amount of time analyzing he's guilty or not will be counterproductive.
2) His roleclaim does not sound like a confused townie to me--it sounds like a scum looking to bait a counter-claim.
3) We shouldn't necessarily give him the benefit of the doubt just because he sounds like a bad townie.
Hence those 3 points combined = lynch.
As for Lvdr, my view of him has gotten much scummier since my last FoS. Reasons in the next post.
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On August 25 2012 04:42 Lvdr wrote:
Remember FOS is a tool in order to stimulate discussion. My earlier FOS were largely manufactured because of lack of evidence. Right now our focus needs to be widespread so that we dont have a situation where, for example kush gets tunneled hard and we have no evidence on anyone else.
I'm going to start with this post by Lvdr as to why we should lynch him after we lynch Kush.
Lvdr is saying that he did a town read on me and FoS'd mkfuba to "spark discussion". He didn't actually mean it--or at least, he didn't mean it as strongly as he made the town think.
Basically, he lied. One thing that I feel even more strongly about than lynching lurkers is lynching liars. That's strike one against Lvdr here.
Strike two--
He dumps accusations everywhere. On me, on mkfuba, on kush--and then lifts them as quickly as he dumps them. Pointing fingers everywhere on minimal evidence is usually a scumtell. Scum want to make town spend more time defending itself than hunting scum.
Strike three--
This is what I don't get from Lvdr. He accuses mkfuba and kush weakly, leaves the thread, then comes back and calls townie on them, saying that his earlier reads were to spark discussion bullshit. Nothing mkfuba has done in the intervening 20 hours justifies this backtracking from his earlier FoS, much less Kush. Instead, Lvdr just implicitly asserts it.
Why is this wierd? Because any player who was basing his reads off evidence would follow up on the FoS, see that mkfuba hasn't done anything that screams pro-town. And I'm still not sure how Lvdr could just wholly dismiss his earlier FoS on kush on any reasonable basis when the only evidence Kush has provided is an extremely weak JK claim. Basically, when you look at how rapidly Lvdr shifts his accusations around, it almost looks like he's playing with prior knowledge of who is town. This is the clearest and biggest scumtell in the book. Even if you buy that on Kush, how could he just dump the FoS he's given with the weak excuse that he was trying to spark discussion, without even discussing what happened to his targets that made him drop the FoS?
Because of the three arguments above, I'm going to levy a strong FoS Lvdr. If it's clear Kush won't be getting lynched today, I'd also be fine with a lynch on Lvdr as well.
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Also: Weetee where are you?
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Alright. We're into the 2nd 24hr period, which means the vote deadline is coming up soon. It's time we start putting our cards on the table by throwing some votes out.
##Vote WeeTee
Here are the first things he says that aren't part of the standard lurker policy discussion.
On August 24 2012 07:57 WeeTee wrote:
Thrawn you intimidate me with your confidence already, but I think that you'll be good to learn the game from! On August 24 2012 09:45 WeeTee wrote:Shady mentioned that you had experience in the game already so could you analyse some of the content at a better standard than 'you didn't write much'.
Help us all get the ball rolling!
The first quote, on its own, can easily just be explained as friendly chit-chat at the start of the game. However the 2nd quote comes after kush going into defensive mode, and it seems strange that WeeTee would not comment on kush or anything related to kush. He uses his 2nd post instead to reiterate his lurker policy position, and then directly asks another player to start scumhunting for him. Already in his first two posts he has indicated that he wants other people to get most of the town's attention as far as presenting reads, while up to that point he hadn't given a read on what everyone else who posted was talking about (kush.)
Next he is asked to give his read on shady, and he responds with the following: On August 24 2012 10:23 WeeTee wrote:
I hear on the grape vine that posting lots makes you look like town....
But then damn you meta comes into play!
In my opinion Shady is neither town or scum.
He gives reasons why shady could either be town or scum, he doesn't assign a likelihood to either of them and concludes that he doesn't have a read on shady. Yet another post where he offers nothing of substance.
His next post, after being asked to further explain his null read on Shady: On August 24 2012 10:47 WeeTee wrote:
I just feel like he can read the meta well, Shady is clearly fluent in his play style and capable of leading us in a particular direction.
Thinking about the meta is retarded so I wont speculate aloud any more.
On me and my style, clearly i'm not as precise as some of you but there's no reason that everyone must conform to full fledged suspicions. Having a few cents is an influential position in any social scene.
Perhaps I will blossom with content when I see a read that I believe and something more than the pokes and prods i'm getting.
Once again he doesn't commit to any position and this post, and all of his posts up to that point, indicate that he doesn't want anyone to take him seriously. Note that so far despite having the Kush issue to talk about he doesn't talk about it and only gives his wishy washy null reads when asked to by another player.
His next post is the first one where he commits to non-null read: On August 24 2012 15:06 WeeTee wrote:Hi all, sorry for not regularly posting I have Uni commitments and such. I have read through the current content, and every ones filters. It seems to me that everyone has taken a disliking to kushm4sta's quote "Lvdr is 85 percent mafia in my mind though. We should lynch him." Even for a newbie like me I was like .... But I think that a real scum wouldn't reveal information in this clumsy manner and I know i'm not directing any suspicion there as kush is too easy of a target to pick off. I did however notice that Alsn did put a FOS on Kush; to me this seems like Alsn nibbled at the bait, sensing his opportunity to take a weak player down. Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 11:33 Alsn wrote:On August 24 2012 11:02 kushm4sta wrote:
Also thrawn...this dude is just appointing himself town leader with his epically long posts with quotes etc, also intiating all topics of discussion. It seems like he is trying to make himself essential so no one will suspect him.
Why would anyone care as much about the minutiae of lurker policy as thrawn? Because his scum strategy is to not be a lurker and provide justication to lynch any innocents that might be lurking. (Emphasis mine) I like that you are starting to contribute to the discussion. I don't, however, agree with your conclusion. If you look at the following post(long, so spoilered it): + Show Spoiler +On August 24 2012 09:34 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 09:03 Lvdr wrote:
Shady this is like the third game I've played with you in the last few days. If you don't know my lurker policy you must be thick as a brick.
Policy: LYNCH LURKERS. Hopefully there are no lurkers and we can vote scumreads. If it comes down to voting for a strong scumread and one of several lurkers, I'd rather go with the scumread. Being too focused on lurkers caused me to play poorly in my last game. If I make a strong case against a player I am definitely going to vote for them. Excluding that, lynching a lurker is the backup plan. Your experience of how mafia players lurk during newbie games is something I don't have so I don't share your commitment to a flat out "only lynch a lurker during D1" plan. Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 08:55 Spaghetticus wrote:
@Thrawn
If the worst outcome of lurking is to not get lynched, I don't see how town can possibly eventuate victorious. Lurking is an aspect of scum behaviour, or of poor play, and should be treated as such. You seem to propose it as some sort of tie breaking mechanism, but I believe this to be an over-simplification.
In day 1, there will be extremely little information to go by. Lurking will almost certainly be the biggest tell as to the value/alignment of a player. I don't think that "worst outcome of lurking is to not get lynched" but I don't think that D1 is the time to do it. Of course there are always exceptions...such as the player who has 4 posts at the end of D1, he's sheeping the popular cases, and never offers any original reasoning for his votes. But yeah, hopefully lurking won't be an issue. I expect all this talk about lurker policy will help achieve that. And this disagreement isn't that big of an issue to me, because if I have a case worth lynching someone over then it should be a strong enough case to convince everyone else. Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 09:27 Shady Sands wrote:On August 24 2012 09:25 Lvdr wrote:
Wait has everyone posted already? I think so. Right now I'm concerned about Kush. His post at the very best is completely useless to town. That post also caught my eye and I suggested that he comment on the current discussion but so far there's been nothing. Kush it's not too big a deal this early on but the longer you wait the worse it's going to look. In this post thrawn argues with Lvdr about the lyrker lynch policy and makes clear and concise arguments and in fact comes to the conclusion that the policy post did it's job in that it put focus on starting discussion. Something which is good for town. You then immediately jump to the conclusion that he must be scum that wants to look like town. I feel this is overly aggressive on your part and while it's entirely possible that you are just feeling attacked right now and reacting a bit emotionally, please understand that things are not personal. If you are in fact a townie trying to cast blame on someone you suspect as scum, you should use clearly articulated points with a clear explanation of the basis of your argument. So until you prove to me otherwise, I feel I must suspect you for being overly defensive about your posting. FoS kushm4sta I will put a FoS on Alsn for this But it is undeniable that kushm4sta is rubbing everyone the wrong way. Let me know what you think about Alsn Fos-ing Kush, Does Alsn see an easy opportunity to take someone out? and why is he the only one that chirped up for the obvious?
His thoughts on the kush discussion are just as wishy wahsy as the rest of his posts have been. He gives both reasons for why he could think that kush is town or scum and then drops the topic without committing to a read. This is the behavior of a scum who wants to pretend to be active in discussions without having to actually commit to anything.
Then he puts a FOS on Alsn for being "the only one that chirped up for the obvious" in regards to Kush's "85% sure" post. This was a false statement, as I and others pointed out. His first actual read was based on a false premise, so he either had paid no attention to the thread even though he just said he "read through the current content, and every ones filters" or he is scum pushing a weak case. After this post I asked him for a read on lvdr, which is my next point.
He has repeatedly ignored my request for a read on lvdr. I say "repeatedly" because he posted in the thread multiple times after I asked for the read. Originally I asked him for the read as I thought it was relevant to his incorrect post about Alsn, but him ignoring my question while continuing to post just furthers my suspicion that he wants to remain below everyone's radar.
His next post is a response to a post from Alsn.
Alsn's post: On August 24 2012 15:13 Alsn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 15:06 WeeTee wrote:
I will put a
FoS on Alsn for this
But it is undeniable that kushm4sta is rubbing everyone the wrong way.
Let me know what you think about Alsn Fos-ing Kush,
Does Alsn see an easy opportunity to take someone out?
and why is he the only one that chirped up for the obvious? First I would like to point out that I have not been the only one to criticize kush as you claim, several people jumped on the bandwagon(for good reason, I might add) when he first started accusing people. I would also like you to see my latest post where I explicitly say that we should stop worrying about kush for now as I think it's taking up too much of our attention. I have every intention of forgiving kush's mistakes, if he can start acting like that's what they are, instead of coming up with convoluted explanations as to why he feels the way he does. If you do not consider my latest post on kush to satisfy your suspicions against me, could you explain to me why that is?
WeeTee's post:On August 24 2012 15:22 WeeTee wrote:
@Alsn
I like you response verrry smooth.
I must have started writing before you posted so sorry for that.
Are you willing to say that kush is in the clear then? or do you think there is something underlying still?
I guess throwing around FoS can mean next to nothing, especially if you change your mind so fast.
I wonder now you have stopped leading the bandwagon if someone will pick it up again. Kush is an easy target.
I bolded Alsn's question and WeeTee's response to it. Alsn asks WeeTee if WeeTee is satisfied with Alsn's latest post about kush, and if not then why not. WeeTee does not actually answer that question, instead he probes Alsn to speculate on if there is "something underlying still." This is yet another post where WeeTee does not commit to a read and instead asks others to give their reads instead. Then he throws out the line "I wonder now you have stopped leading the bandwagon if someone will pick it up again. Kush is an easy target." Still he says nothing of substance while commenting on how other players might give their reads.
In his next post he addresses how I have called him out for making a poor case against Alsn: On August 24 2012 15:35 WeeTee wrote:
Leaders be leaders.
@dandel
I'm not interested in your negativity. I'm simply making my point.
My first quote had my message
"I did however notice that Alsn did put a FOS on Kush; to me this seems like Alsn nibbled at the bait, sensing his opportunity to take a weak player down."
I see my mistake in saying "the only one that chirped up", which thrawn just pointed out.
please disregard that comment.
Still I find it amazing how instead of just answering a question we need to nit pick.
Super encouraging.
Here he admits to making a poor case, which is fine, but what strikes me as suspicious is the "please disregard that comment" part. Sorry buddy we don't just disregard cases, even if we originally accept that you presenting the case was an honest mistake.
His next post is more of the same stuff he's been doing all game, which is to not commit to a read and pushing others to give reads for him.
On August 24 2012 15:38 WeeTee wrote:
Alsn I totally agree,
Id love to see where the discussion goes over the next few hour because i'm not convinced on anyone as of yet.
We need some new POI.
If we need a new POI then provide one yourself.
His final post: On August 24 2012 15:50 WeeTee wrote:
Alsn I see the err of my ways. noted.
It could be him admitting to an honest mistake, but I'm inclined to believe it's just more of him posting to appear active without giving reads.
Summary: He doesn't commit to reads and instead asks people to present new cases and to speculate further on cases. His strongest commitment so far was a case based upon an inaccuracy. He hasn't obliged my request for a read on lvdr while he continues to post in the thread.
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Going to wait for Weetee to make a response before going either way on him. Though I agree, his recent behavior is suspicious.
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On August 25 2012 12:13 Shady Sands wrote:You FoS'd me early D1 too. No need to FoS me again. I would just like to point out that this statement is incorrect. The only suspicion I have directed your way earlier than my FoS just a few hours ago was agreeing that Spaghetticus' arguments against you had some merit, but that I didn't find them enough to suspect you of anything sinister.
Lots of information posted in a very short interval now, will read and see if I have anything to comment on.
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On August 25 2012 12:32 Alsn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 12:13 Shady Sands wrote:You FoS'd me early D1 too. No need to FoS me again. I would just like to point out that this statement is incorrect. The only suspicion I have directed your way earlier than my FoS just a few hours ago was agreeing that Spaghetticus' arguments against you had some merit, but that I didn't find them enough to suspect you of anything sinister. Lots of information posted in a very short interval now, will read and see if I have anything to comment on.
Sorry, I messed up there.
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Alrighty.
I am always busy and think the content you guys put up is (sometimes)utter crapola.
Im glad that iv been called out so that I can comment.
I have no reads on anyone at the moment and am happy for any outcome of the first day to happen.
I have trouble articulating what I want to say so I might be brash enough to put my #FoS on thrawn,
because he just never ever places a FoS and is always non committal.
I know I make a target of myself for being clumsy but for me to participate and get better i'm going to have to ignore the criticism I get and just put it out there.
Continuing on with my FoS its clear that thrawn is so active, probably overactive in the sense.
I have a case that chugging the bandwagon against me is a well timed push,
experienced even.
Building a case on me in my absence based on the fact that I am absent is not convincing enough to suspect me,
if it was then a FoS is surely sufficent.
Yet I recieved a vote from thrawn.
Just over the top imo.
I urge you all to read thrawns filter and see how passive his playstyle is.
And then make up your minds.
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On August 25 2012 13:16 WeeTee wrote:
Alrighty.
I am always busy and think the content you guys put up is (sometimes)utter crapola.
Im glad that iv been called out so that I can comment.
I have no reads on anyone at the moment and am happy for any outcome of the first day to happen.
I have trouble articulating what I want to say so I might be brash enough to put my #FoS on thrawn,
because he just never ever places a FoS and is always non committal.
I know I make a target of myself for being clumsy but for me to participate and get better i'm going to have to ignore the criticism I get and just put it out there.
Continuing on with my FoS its clear that thrawn is so active, probably overactive in the sense.
I have a case that chugging the bandwagon against me is a well timed push,
experienced even.
Building a case on me in my absence based on the fact that I am absent is not convincing enough to suspect me,
if it was then a FoS is surely sufficent.
Yet I recieved a vote from thrawn.
Just over the top imo.
I urge you all to read thrawns filter and see how passive his playstyle is.
And then make up your minds.
So... you are FoSing Thrawn because he doesn't FoS anyone else and is therefore noncommital? But he just voted you.
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Ok, I would like to take a step back and see where we are right now and what our options are.
As I see it, we have 2 people pushing for actual votes. thrawn and Shady. I'm inclined to believe either story but I do find both of you to be a bit premature in your conclusions. Maybe you are just waiting for more information and just want to get the voting started, which I suppose is a fair point.
Both of the proposed lynchees are being pushed due to the fact that they are playing as "bad townies". Let's disregard for the moment if they are doing so under pretenses or if they were genuinely put off balance by attacks during the early part of the day.
I will state for the record that given the choice of only kush or WeeTee, I would prefer to lynch WT. Simply because the JK claim is something we should be able to confirm later on in the game.
Dandel Ion, mkfuba, Lvdr and Spaghetticus. What are your feelings on this subject? Should town be ok with just picking either WeeTee or kush to lynch, or is there something else of substance to go on?
From the last few posts here, I'm feeling relatively sure about thrawn being town, mostly due to the material he has produced, but also for following through on WT with what I would say is great success for his case. It should be noted however from looking at his filter, that most of his posting has been on the policy discussion early on, as well as defending people when it was highly non-controversial to do so(shady and lvdr early on, and me when WT attacked me).
Shady, I'm still not entirely satisfied with your reasons for going so hard on kush, but I can't entirely disagree with your reasoning.
I would like it if Lvdr came back to defend himself more against the things pointed out against him by you and others. Because while I agree with the following quote: On August 25 2012 04:21 Lvdr wrote:
@shady My initial 'town call' on shady was mostly in order to stimulate discussion. Yes, he did match his meta for the most part, but it was extremely early to decide that someone was already town. At this point I am pretty suspicious that he decided kush's JK claim is scummy enough to insta-vote him. Seems like textbook play from a mafia jumping on the mistakes of a newbie.
##FOS Shady
And you,Lvdr, could make yourself a lot clearer on a lot of topics, Shady's criticism of you has not been entirely without merit and while I think he jumped the gun, it would help the rest of us if you could elaborate. Especially your backtrack on mkfuba who I also feel needs to get his stuff together and write something of substance.
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EBWOP: That last segment came out kind of weirdly. the part before the quote and after the quote are supposed to be part of the same paragraph and, so just consider the "And you," to be a continuation of the sentence prior to the quote.
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On August 25 2012 13:16 WeeTee wrote:
Alrighty.
I am always busy and think the content you guys put up is (sometimes)utter crapola.
Im glad that iv been called out so that I can comment.
Ok, you say our content is crap, I say your content is definitely some of the worst. You are glad that you've been called out so that you can have something to say? As in, you wouldn't have anything to say if you hadn't been called out?
I have no reads on anyone at the moment and am happy for any outcome of the first day to happen.
What an incredibly scummy statement. No reads, and you don't care about the outcome of the lynch.
I have trouble articulating what I want to say so I might be brash enough to put my #FoS on thrawn,
because he just never ever places a FoS and is always non committal.
Non committal? I have aggressively gone after you and kush, and I just posted a huge wall of text on why I think you're scum. I'm also one of the first people to vote.
I know I make a target of myself for being clumsy but for me to participate and get better i'm going to have to ignore the criticism I get and just put it out there.
Continuing on with my FoS its clear that thrawn is so active, probably overactive in the sense.
I have a case that chugging the bandwagon against me is a well timed push,
experienced even.
So I'm scum because I'm super active, and because I am bandwagoning onto a case against you? I have been calling you all the whole game.
Building a case on me in my absence based on the fact that I am absent is not convincing enough to suspect me,
if it was then a FoS is surely sufficent.
You having not posted recently had nothing to do with my case against you, it was entirely about your actions while you were posting. On that note, you still have not answered the question that I've asked you over and over again.
Yet I recieved a vote from thrawn.
Just over the top imo.
I urge you all to read thrawns filter and see how passive his playstyle is.
And then make up your minds.
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going to bed right now, but before I go
FoS Weetee
His above response was nearly as bad as Kush's. If he doesn't pull a really good defense or an absolutely rock solid case by the time I wake up, I'm fine with a lynch on him.
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total blab from thrawn.
Make a real case for gosh sake, now ur clearly FoSing me for the sake of it.
You can make all the fluff you want about me, Im not scared because if you mess up this will be the point where those in day 2 can suspect you.
The push against me is weak at best please everyone reiterate the reasons why you want me suspected and you will see im just being baited out by thrawn. id go as far to say hunted,
I know my role in this game so
#FoS thrawn still stands
shady really.. if your intelligent you wouldn't join this bandwagon too
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Town started off pretty well in terms of people posting but now half of you have gone into lurker mode. There is plenty to discuss and I will be suspicious of those of you that don't participate in scumhunting and later bandwagon onto popular lynch candidates.
@WeeTee
You say I'm baiting or hunting you? Why are "baited" and "hunted" your choice of words? Is it because of how long my post was?
Does this:On August 25 2012 14:01 WeeTee wrote:shady really.. if your intelligent you wouldn't join this bandwagon too mean you think shady is town? You initially gave super weak null reads on shady and I want to know why you now think he is town.
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EPT
