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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 30 2012 19:02 GMT
#1481
On August 30 2012 22:44 Bluelightz wrote:
If I could kill someone let's kill Lingu.


Explain.
Что?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
August 30 2012 21:01 GMT
#1482
On August 30 2012 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:23 Quatol wrote:
I think you're on some kind of hard medication, frankly


oops. requoted, it was me.

Lol
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 31 2012 01:42 GMT
#1483
Finish my story if I pass town.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 01:53 GMT
#1484
Lvdr made good cases against both lingu and talis that have gone totally undefended. lingu posted a little but never explained his mysterious vote switch. He's falling apart as the game goes on and at this point has a good chance of flipping scum.

talis is the sure-fire scum though, I couldn't be more certain. Town should lynch him tomorrow.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 31 2012 01:59 GMT
#1485
Okay. I am probably going to die tonight.

Right now town has had 2 mislynches and a no-lynch. Mislynch on Obv was led by Marv. Mislynch on Lvdr was led by me. No-lynch switch from Lvdr (who we now know is town) was led by IamP's quickvote on Djagulingu.

On August 27 2012 08:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 06:45 Djagulingu wrote:
Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu.

## unvote
## vote Djagulingu


Explain faster.


Of the three, I think IamP deserves scrutiny. His vote came at a time when town still hadn't solidified on anyone yet, but drew just enough votes away from Lvdr to make it a no-lynch.

Then he goes about on a five-post train on Marv, starting with an FoS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16016321
and ending with a retraction
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16028983

Midway through his FoS train on Marv, he votes Djagulingu using the same arguments he had from the night before, in spite of the fact that Dj had already explained his reasoning to most of the town's satisfaction. Then he drops his vote on Dj due to reasoning from Marv. WTF? Generally when players have an FoS on someone they usually don't use that person's arguments in good faith to change their vote. Yet IamP was willing to do so. To me, this smells like a distancing exercise.

Why would IamP want to distance himself from Marv? Because many people in the thread at the time (notably, myself) were blaming them for leading/sheeping the Obvious mislynch.

But then of course, once the heat dies down, those two band together on Talis again, and against the Lvdr mislynch.

This is where it gets a bit strange. IamP begins engaging Lvdr in conversation (near the end of D3) and begins to constantly harry him to "post until the deadline". He gives a last minute townread on Lvdr, in complete contradiction to the wishy-washy reads he had before. But at this point the entire town is aligned against Lvdr except for him and Marv.

To any observer, Lvdr's case looked scummier than the case on Talis. But somehow, to IamP, not only did Lvdr look less scummy, he looked like town. This clearly demonstrates prior knowledge of who is town and who isn't.

Call me stubborn, but I am more and more in belief of a IamP/Marv/BL scumteam. I'll post more if I live. If not, please lynch IamP. Thank you.
Что?
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 02:14:58
August 31 2012 02:00 GMT
#1486
Day 4: The Crucible


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To the north of the city lies a vast expanse of arboreal splendor known as the Fargreen. This is an old wood, predating the city it encroaches upon by many centuries, and it holds many secrets. Found within is a Holdfast, which has stood stoically over the rise and fall of many royal bloodlines, all whom at some point had sought refuge within. This is also a holy place; there were those who still pray to the First King, the Godking, and these cloistered few reside here in silent worship. Kings would arrive seeking succor, and these monks would serve them, as their forebears served the Godking.

As it happened, they were in service to a king now. He sat, brooding, on a worn slate throne in the inner keep, the loyal nobility and prominent statesmen arrayed before him. The milky light, reflected many times by the natural crystal in the skylights of the keep, illuminated the king; an ephemeral opulence that matched the still regal set of his countenance. Even in hiding, laid low, the king was still a royal, and held his court with near divine glory.

“Why are you still here?” He straightened as he posed the question. “Is it because you miss your jewels, your manses? Do you miss your servants, the grand parties? Tell me now.”

“King and country, Sire,” they said in unison.

“We shall see. This day is critical.” The king paused for a moment before deciding how to proceed. “Across the desert, our closest neighbors fight bulls. This is done for sport. Have you seen it?”

“Sire?” The nobles looked at each other, confused.

“They fight bulls. They taunt them, enrage them. The bulls charge, it is a fearsome sight. Sometimes they connect.” The king paused again, to smile. “The fighters must be agile, and also patient. The bull is defeated not in one great stroke, but by many small punctures.”

A brave noble stepped forward, one hand raised. “Sire,” he said, “we are fascinated to be sure, but what is the significance of this?”

“The revolution, foolish one,” the king said, now standing. “The revolution is a bull, strong, swift, and angry…but reckless. Every death we inflict upon them, removing one of their leaders, is a small puncture. On this night, we will puncture them again. Twice this time. Soon, the revolution will be leaderless, and will collapse, bleeding from its many wounds.”

“Excellent, Sire. After this night, surely we will be able to return to the city and seize control,” said the brave noble.

The king walked slowly towards the man, stopping a few feet in front of him. The noble visibly shrunk.

“Do not presume to dictate strategy to me, you sniveling little worm. Remember your place. I have something else in mind for our triumphant return to the city, and the pieces are already in motion. Now go, all of you, and see to my commands.”

“Which of the traitorous firebrands are we to kill, Sire?”

"Ah. Kill the deviant, the one who speaks by the castle steps. Also, kill the luminary, provided you have the strength of spirit needed to destroy the man who once taught your children."


Miltonkram, as Romain Duris the Miller, was found with his skull split open!
Bluelightz, as Jules Bonnot the Vanilla Townie, was found drowned in the canals!

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Miltonkram
Welcome to Normal Mafia III, you are a Glorious Revolutionary. Your name is Romain Duris and you are an embittered university profesor. For years and years (and years) you have instructed the sons of nobles in the principles of ethics and morality, only to see them fall to a life of debauchery and chaos. You used to be unable to do anything about it, but now the time is ripe to teach them this lesson in the flesh. If the corruption could not be beaten from inside, then it is your job to ensure it is burnt from the outside.

Bluelightz
Welcome to Normal Mafia III, you are a Glorious Revolutionary. Your name is Jules Bonnot and you have joined the glorious revolution! Not because you belive in any of their prattling about "universal equality" or "freedom for all" but because they have toppled the current government and are most likely to bring about a glorious reign of anarchy! It is only in anarchy that all people can be *truly* equal! Go now and murder some monarchists to ensure the rise of pure chaos!

____________________________________________________________

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to vote for a lynch candidate.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 02:11:01
August 31 2012 02:01 GMT
#1487
all fixed.
ATOBTTR
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 31 2012 02:11 GMT
#1488
gogogo.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 31 2012 02:17 GMT
#1489
Okay, that IamP/Marv/BL scumteam theory just got tossed out the window.

First off, town, we are at 4-3 LYLO. We have to get 3 straight lynches right. Monumental, but it's been done before. On other forums, that is. Let's be the first TL Mafia squad that pulls this off.

So basically IamP and Marv have been sheeping and supporting each other the entire game. They've been careful not to do it too aggressively, but they've been quietly doing it. There is an assumption of trust that underlies all their posting between each other.

When Marv saved BL I thought it was a risky bus move to avoid a D1 lynch. The ease by which town sheeped him and the fact that Marv didn't bring BL up again anymore made me doubly suspicious of him.

But with BL gone, the third leg of their little support group is gone, as is the third leg to my theory. At this point I am forced to subscribe to Marv's read on lurkers/bad play being dominant scumtells. In this case my scumteam shifts to Talis/DJ/Chez.

I'm going to go with Marv on voting Talis. We'll see how the rest of today plays out.
Что?
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 31 2012 02:25 GMT
#1490
Aaaaaaand we lost
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#1491
On August 31 2012 11:17 Shady Sands wrote:
Okay, that IamP/Marv/BL scumteam theory just got tossed out the window.

First off, town, we are at 4-3 LYLO. We have to get 3 straight lynches right. Monumental, but it's been done before. On other forums, that is. Let's be the first TL Mafia squad that pulls this off.

So basically IamP and Marv have been sheeping and supporting each other the entire game. They've been careful not to do it too aggressively, but they've been quietly doing it. There is an assumption of trust that underlies all their posting between each other.

When Marv saved BL I thought it was a risky bus move to avoid a D1 lynch. The ease by which town sheeped him and the fact that Marv didn't bring BL up again anymore made me doubly suspicious of him.

But with BL gone, the third leg of their little support group is gone, as is the third leg to my theory. At this point I am forced to subscribe to Marv's read on lurkers/bad play being dominant scumtells. In this case my scumteam shifts to Talis/DJ/Chez.

I'm going to go with Marv on voting Talis. We'll see how the rest of today plays out.

Well you can count me on dj.

##Vote dj
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 31 2012 02:36 GMT
#1492
On August 31 2012 11:35 Kville wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:17 Shady Sands wrote:
Okay, that IamP/Marv/BL scumteam theory just got tossed out the window.

First off, town, we are at 4-3 LYLO. We have to get 3 straight lynches right. Monumental, but it's been done before. On other forums, that is. Let's be the first TL Mafia squad that pulls this off.

So basically IamP and Marv have been sheeping and supporting each other the entire game. They've been careful not to do it too aggressively, but they've been quietly doing it. There is an assumption of trust that underlies all their posting between each other.

When Marv saved BL I thought it was a risky bus move to avoid a D1 lynch. The ease by which town sheeped him and the fact that Marv didn't bring BL up again anymore made me doubly suspicious of him.

But with BL gone, the third leg of their little support group is gone, as is the third leg to my theory. At this point I am forced to subscribe to Marv's read on lurkers/bad play being dominant scumtells. In this case my scumteam shifts to Talis/DJ/Chez.

I'm going to go with Marv on voting Talis. We'll see how the rest of today plays out.

Well you can count me on dj.

##Vote dj


Why not Talis?
Что?
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 31 2012 02:41 GMT
#1493
On August 31 2012 11:36 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:35 Kville wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:17 Shady Sands wrote:
Okay, that IamP/Marv/BL scumteam theory just got tossed out the window.

First off, town, we are at 4-3 LYLO. We have to get 3 straight lynches right. Monumental, but it's been done before. On other forums, that is. Let's be the first TL Mafia squad that pulls this off.

So basically IamP and Marv have been sheeping and supporting each other the entire game. They've been careful not to do it too aggressively, but they've been quietly doing it. There is an assumption of trust that underlies all their posting between each other.

When Marv saved BL I thought it was a risky bus move to avoid a D1 lynch. The ease by which town sheeped him and the fact that Marv didn't bring BL up again anymore made me doubly suspicious of him.

But with BL gone, the third leg of their little support group is gone, as is the third leg to my theory. At this point I am forced to subscribe to Marv's read on lurkers/bad play being dominant scumtells. In this case my scumteam shifts to Talis/DJ/Chez.

I'm going to go with Marv on voting Talis. We'll see how the rest of today plays out.

Well you can count me on dj.

##Vote dj


Why not Talis?

Why not dj?
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 31 2012 02:52 GMT
#1494
On August 31 2012 11:41 Kville wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:36 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:35 Kville wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:17 Shady Sands wrote:
Okay, that IamP/Marv/BL scumteam theory just got tossed out the window.

First off, town, we are at 4-3 LYLO. We have to get 3 straight lynches right. Monumental, but it's been done before. On other forums, that is. Let's be the first TL Mafia squad that pulls this off.

So basically IamP and Marv have been sheeping and supporting each other the entire game. They've been careful not to do it too aggressively, but they've been quietly doing it. There is an assumption of trust that underlies all their posting between each other.

When Marv saved BL I thought it was a risky bus move to avoid a D1 lynch. The ease by which town sheeped him and the fact that Marv didn't bring BL up again anymore made me doubly suspicious of him.

But with BL gone, the third leg of their little support group is gone, as is the third leg to my theory. At this point I am forced to subscribe to Marv's read on lurkers/bad play being dominant scumtells. In this case my scumteam shifts to Talis/DJ/Chez.

I'm going to go with Marv on voting Talis. We'll see how the rest of today plays out.

Well you can count me on dj.

##Vote dj


Why not Talis?

Why not dj?


Why not Talis, is my question
Что?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
August 31 2012 03:55 GMT
#1495
i got role blocked
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
August 31 2012 03:59 GMT
#1496
On August 31 2012 11:17 Shady Sands wrote:
Okay, that IamP/Marv/BL scumteam theory just got tossed out the window.

First off, town, we are at 4-3 LYLO. We have to get 3 straight lynches right. Monumental, but it's been done before. On other forums, that is. Let's be the first TL Mafia squad that pulls this off.

So basically IamP and Marv have been sheeping and supporting each other the entire game. They've been careful not to do it too aggressively, but they've been quietly doing it. There is an assumption of trust that underlies all their posting between each other.

When Marv saved BL I thought it was a risky bus move to avoid a D1 lynch. The ease by which town sheeped him and the fact that Marv didn't bring BL up again anymore made me doubly suspicious of him.

But with BL gone, the third leg of their little support group is gone, as is the third leg to my theory. At this point I am forced to subscribe to Marv's read on lurkers/bad play being dominant scumtells. In this case my scumteam shifts to Talis/DJ/Chez.

I'm going to go with Marv on voting Talis. We'll see how the rest of today plays out.

what are you talking about i used fucking red ink at one point if thats not aggresive i dont know what is.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
August 31 2012 04:43 GMT
#1497
this shit is hard ill need to loook at this tommorow.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 31 2012 05:42 GMT
#1498
I'm beginning to think KVille may be scum.

Talis/KV/DJ?

Chez is just really hard to read =(
Что?
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 31 2012 06:12 GMT
#1499
On August 31 2012 14:42 Shady Sands wrote:
I'm beginning to think KVille may be scum.

Talis/KV/DJ?

Chez is just really hard to read =(

##Vote: Talismania

The only flip side of a LYLO situation is that you can have a random lynch and still get a mafia nearly half of the time. By the way don't we have a medic or a DT? No saves, no DT checks so far. I'm really on Chezinu-Talis-iamperfection/Kville scum team. And if you excuse me, I'll vote on Talis.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
August 31 2012 07:10 GMT
#1500
Got home and saw I was dead

GG town. GL
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