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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 10:38 GMT
#1501
ok, good. Let's do this.

##Vote: talismania
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 31 2012 13:38 GMT
#1502
Oh, good luck town, thanks scum for freeing up some time for me to co-host Death Note ^^
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2012 15:37 GMT
#1503
On August 30 2012 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know, talis's post's seem's townie compared to his scum game in Pick Your Poison, granted in PYP he was active, but I dunno, I'll vote talis before I sleep though to consolidate (as I won't be there for the deadline, school started).

so what happened bluelightz spending time with the girlfriend?

On August 28 2012 12:19 Bluelightz wrote:
I got... RBed!


also why did you fell it neccesary to state this?


Yes, BL disappearing is an absolute disgrace.

If he is town and was roleblocked, then of course he should claim he was roleblocked, however.

why did you defend him?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 15:41 GMT
#1504
On September 01 2012 00:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2012 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know, talis's post's seem's townie compared to his scum game in Pick Your Poison, granted in PYP he was active, but I dunno, I'll vote talis before I sleep though to consolidate (as I won't be there for the deadline, school started).

so what happened bluelightz spending time with the girlfriend?

On August 28 2012 12:19 Bluelightz wrote:
I got... RBed!


also why did you fell it neccesary to state this?


Yes, BL disappearing is an absolute disgrace.

If he is town and was roleblocked, then of course he should claim he was roleblocked, however.

why did you defend him?


Defend who when?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2012 15:42 GMT
#1505
On September 01 2012 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:37 iamperfection wrote:
On August 30 2012 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2012 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know, talis's post's seem's townie compared to his scum game in Pick Your Poison, granted in PYP he was active, but I dunno, I'll vote talis before I sleep though to consolidate (as I won't be there for the deadline, school started).

so what happened bluelightz spending time with the girlfriend?

On August 28 2012 12:19 Bluelightz wrote:
I got... RBed!


also why did you fell it neccesary to state this?


Yes, BL disappearing is an absolute disgrace.

If he is town and was roleblocked, then of course he should claim he was roleblocked, however.

why did you defend him?


Defend who when?

Why did you explain that it was town like for bluelightz to claim he was role blocked.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 15:43 GMT
#1506
On September 01 2012 00:42 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:37 iamperfection wrote:
On August 30 2012 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2012 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know, talis's post's seem's townie compared to his scum game in Pick Your Poison, granted in PYP he was active, but I dunno, I'll vote talis before I sleep though to consolidate (as I won't be there for the deadline, school started).

so what happened bluelightz spending time with the girlfriend?

On August 28 2012 12:19 Bluelightz wrote:
I got... RBed!


also why did you fell it neccesary to state this?


Yes, BL disappearing is an absolute disgrace.

If he is town and was roleblocked, then of course he should claim he was roleblocked, however.

why did you defend him?


Defend who when?

Why did you explain that it was town like for bluelightz to claim he was role blocked.


you asked him why he claimed he was RBed.

I was saying that if you (general you, as in anyone) are roleblocked, you should always announce it to the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2012 15:47 GMT
#1507
On September 01 2012 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:42 iamperfection wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:37 iamperfection wrote:
On August 30 2012 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2012 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know, talis's post's seem's townie compared to his scum game in Pick Your Poison, granted in PYP he was active, but I dunno, I'll vote talis before I sleep though to consolidate (as I won't be there for the deadline, school started).

so what happened bluelightz spending time with the girlfriend?

On August 28 2012 12:19 Bluelightz wrote:
I got... RBed!


also why did you fell it neccesary to state this?


Yes, BL disappearing is an absolute disgrace.

If he is town and was roleblocked, then of course he should claim he was roleblocked, however.

why did you defend him?


Defend who when?

Why did you explain that it was town like for bluelightz to claim he was role blocked.


you asked him why he claimed he was RBed.

I was saying that if you (general you, as in anyone) are roleblocked, you should always announce it to the thread.

arg i dont know how to ask the question i want to ask.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 15:48 GMT
#1508
try? :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2012 15:56 GMT
#1509
alright ill just be honest. I had an extremly strong town read on bluelightz(i know i never specifically stated that but whatever) i had hoped to keep him around by casting some suspicion on him. Now i thought you had a similar read on bluelightz from the first day shannigans so i find it odd that you would then point out it was likely town motivation in his actions.

So why didnt you just wait untill the deadline for your statement? Wouldnt that have been the better town course of action?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 16:01 GMT
#1510
On September 01 2012 00:56 iamperfection wrote:
alright ill just be honest. I had an extremly strong town read on bluelightz(i know i never specifically stated that but whatever) i had hoped to keep him around by casting some suspicion on him. Now i thought you had a similar read on bluelightz from the first day shannigans so i find it odd that you would then point out it was likely town motivation in his actions.

So why didnt you just wait untill the deadline for your statement? Wouldnt that have been the better town course of action?


Hmm. Yes, I had a town read on BL. I don't quite understand what you're getting at though. As far as I'm concerned it went like:

1) BL claims he got RBed
2) iamp asks why he claims this
3) marv points out RB should always be claimed

Why would I wait to clear that up? For reference, I have seen townies NOT claim RB recently (indeed, it was Milton in a recent game)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2012 16:07 GMT
#1511
On September 01 2012 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:56 iamperfection wrote:
alright ill just be honest. I had an extremly strong town read on bluelightz(i know i never specifically stated that but whatever) i had hoped to keep him around by casting some suspicion on him. Now i thought you had a similar read on bluelightz from the first day shannigans so i find it odd that you would then point out it was likely town motivation in his actions.

So why didnt you just wait untill the deadline for your statement? Wouldnt that have been the better town course of action?


Hmm. Yes, I had a town read on BL. I don't quite understand what you're getting at though. As far as I'm concerned it went like:

1) BL claims he got RBed
2) iamp asks why he claims this
3) marv points out RB should always be claimed

Why would I wait to clear that up? For reference, I have seen townies NOT claim RB recently (indeed, it was Milton in a recent game)

because if you thought he wast town wouldnt it have been better to keep suspicion on him in hopes he may survive the night in order to narrow your suspect pool.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2012 16:16 GMT
#1512
On September 01 2012 01:07 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:56 iamperfection wrote:
alright ill just be honest. I had an extremly strong town read on bluelightz(i know i never specifically stated that but whatever) i had hoped to keep him around by casting some suspicion on him. Now i thought you had a similar read on bluelightz from the first day shannigans so i find it odd that you would then point out it was likely town motivation in his actions.

So why didnt you just wait untill the deadline for your statement? Wouldnt that have been the better town course of action?


Hmm. Yes, I had a town read on BL. I don't quite understand what you're getting at though. As far as I'm concerned it went like:

1) BL claims he got RBed
2) iamp asks why he claims this
3) marv points out RB should always be claimed

Why would I wait to clear that up? For reference, I have seen townies NOT claim RB recently (indeed, it was Milton in a recent game)

because if you thought he wast town wouldnt it have been better to keep suspicion on him in hopes he may survive the night in order to narrow your suspect pool.


ok, I see what you're getting at. I've seen people play that way (strongandbig did it to me in a recent game) but I don't subscribe to it. If you think someone is town, you want them to have as much credibility as possible in order for people to listen to them. I would always take clarity in-thread over fingercrossing with nightkills.

I've never cast suspicion on a town-read to try to get them through the night, and in all likelihood I never will.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2012 22:26 GMT
#1513
.... tails got anything to say?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 31 2012 23:05 GMT
#1514
alright so I guess I'm losing this for town but here goes anyway. tomorrow will be my gf's birthday and I won't be around to fight.

1) All anyone seems to have on me is that I have been inactive. I have been inactive. I have also been busy. Because I am busy, I am inactive. I even said pre-game that I thought I wouldn't be able to be as active as I was in mad men and I even I underestimated how much shit I would have to do then.

2) If I'm scum the NKs don't make sense. Why do I kill BL, who had a townish read on me coming into this lylo situation? Why is marv still alive, when he's been gunning for me forever? Milton wasn't on my case either - why him and not shady, for instance?

3) DJ is one of the scum. Pregame - spammy, eager. During the game - composed, longer posts, less active. Day one - first post is a giant commentary on nothing. All thread response and talk about palmar's randokill thing, the perfect topic for scum to talk about in order to look like they're contributing without doing so. Many of his day one posts are nothing but following the way the wind blows. Obvious comes up, he'll look into him. Marv votes kville? DJ will go for kville as a lurker. Etc. Day two - the lvdr and bait debacle. He votes for lvdr because he supposedly thinks he's scum and if he's not suspects that a wagon on him will draw out real scum. Nevermind that this is a stupid way to trap scum in the first place, it's also likely he invented his explanation for the sequence of events posthoc. Day three - after catching me in his trap (somehow? I vote at the end of day two without even reading and saw he had four votes and I was already suspicious of him), he completely reverts his vote off me, happy to lynch lvdr:

On August 30 2012 05:17 Djagulingu wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr


From one of my top scum reads to another. I'm going to bed now, it's 11 PM here and I got work tomorrow, shift starts 3 hours after voting deadline.


Uh, look at his filter going backwards from this post. Lvdr was nowhere near the top of his list near as I can tell. It was me, chezinu, maybe iamp. This is scum opportunism.


4) Marv is one of the scum. VE was right about him. He should be more in charge than he is. He has pushed me nonstop on the basis of nothing but meta. If he were town, I can't see him being like "oh let's do this and lynch talismania" at lylo. He may feel very strongly about me, but he would pressure everyone else in town to get their reads on everyone. He would carefully consider his options. His confidence in my lynch is misplaced for what it should be. This goes for DJ as well. Contrast this with how iamp and shady are actually thinking about things before they make up their minds and whatnot for example. Leads into my last point:

5) People this is the end of the game. Think carefully about what you're doing.

##vote: dj
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 31 2012 23:17 GMT
#1515
On September 01 2012 08:05 talismania wrote:
alright so I guess I'm losing this for town but here goes anyway. tomorrow will be my gf's birthday and I won't be around to fight.

1) All anyone seems to have on me is that I have been inactive. I have been inactive. I have also been busy. Because I am busy, I am inactive. I even said pre-game that I thought I wouldn't be able to be as active as I was in mad men and I even I underestimated how much shit I would have to do then.

2) If I'm scum the NKs don't make sense. Why do I kill BL, who had a townish read on me coming into this lylo situation? Why is marv still alive, when he's been gunning for me forever? Milton wasn't on my case either - why him and not shady, for instance?

3) DJ is one of the scum. Pregame - spammy, eager. During the game - composed, longer posts, less active. Day one - first post is a giant commentary on nothing. All thread response and talk about palmar's randokill thing, the perfect topic for scum to talk about in order to look like they're contributing without doing so. Many of his day one posts are nothing but following the way the wind blows. Obvious comes up, he'll look into him. Marv votes kville? DJ will go for kville as a lurker. Etc. Day two - the lvdr and bait debacle. He votes for lvdr because he supposedly thinks he's scum and if he's not suspects that a wagon on him will draw out real scum. Nevermind that this is a stupid way to trap scum in the first place, it's also likely he invented his explanation for the sequence of events posthoc. Day three - after catching me in his trap (somehow? I vote at the end of day two without even reading and saw he had four votes and I was already suspicious of him), he completely reverts his vote off me, happy to lynch lvdr:

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 05:17 Djagulingu wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr

Nice strat from scumbags. Keep DJ alive to the LYLO along with townies who hate him most and win? Yeah right. Lynch this guy, toast on the red blood drawn from him.
From one of my top scum reads to another. I'm going to bed now, it's 11 PM here and I got work tomorrow, shift starts 3 hours after voting deadline.


Uh, look at his filter going backwards from this post. Lvdr was nowhere near the top of his list near as I can tell. It was me, chezinu, maybe iamp. This is scum opportunism.


4) Marv is one of the scum. VE was right about him. He should be more in charge than he is. He has pushed me nonstop on the basis of nothing but meta. If he were town, I can't see him being like "oh let's do this and lynch talismania" at lylo. He may feel very strongly about me, but he would pressure everyone else in town to get their reads on everyone. He would carefully consider his options. His confidence in my lynch is misplaced for what it should be. This goes for DJ as well. Contrast this with how iamp and shady are actually thinking about things before they make up their minds and whatnot for example. Leads into my last point:

5) People this is the end of the game. Think carefully about what you're doing.

##vote: dj

"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 31 2012 23:20 GMT
#1516
EBWOP: Lol the actual post isn't here.

Scum's only plan since night 2 is to keep me alive along with people who are eager to see me killed because getting me killed would do nothing but give themselves away. They had to keep me for the LYLO. That's why they delayed on N2. A flawless scum victory is the most embarrassing thing, especially knowing who scumbags are. Don't believe him or whatever he says and hang him high.

Then we toast on the red blood drawn from him.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
September 01 2012 01:45 GMT
#1517
Mid-day Vote count:


Djagulingu (2):
Kville
talismania

talismania (2):
Djagulingu
marvellosity

Not Voting:
Chezinu
Shady Sands
iamperfection

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch. Currently, nobody is set to be lynched.

The deadline arrives in 24 hours, 15 minutes.
ATOBTTR
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 01 2012 03:54 GMT
#1518
Where you at chez what you make of this cluster fuck?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
September 01 2012 03:58 GMT
#1519
On September 01 2012 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
Where you at chez what you make of this cluster fuck?

Is it a clusterfuck? I think we have our town and we have our scum.
Что?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 01 2012 04:11 GMT
#1520
On September 01 2012 12:58 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
Where you at chez what you make of this cluster fuck?

Is it a clusterfuck? I think we have our town and we have our scum.

so Djagulingu is bussing his teammate right now according to your theory?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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