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PTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge

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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 10 2012 02:25 GMT
#24
/in

I won't surrender this time either.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 20:45:52
August 10 2012 20:44 GMT
#48
Are we allowed to use any of the following - One hit KO moves, Evasion stats, Soul Dew, More than one pokemon asleep at a time, The Moody ability, Drizzle + swift swim, Shell smash + baton pass, Different forms on same team and Deepseatooth clamperl, more than one of the same item on the same team, Self KO moves and to rage quit at a double wobbofett conundrum


Those are all real clauses in competitive pokemon by the way
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 10 2012 20:49 GMT
#50
God damnit I knew I forgot one T_T
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 10 2012 22:16 GMT
#54
On August 11 2012 06:57 Zephirdd wrote:
Only first generation will be used here, so I assume that pokémon abilities(such as Levitate) and different forms, as well as items, won't be available.

Is Mew a possibility? You said first 150


Which begs the question

Can we use X items to horribly brake the game because that is all that happened in generation 1?

Can we also use Pokedolls to make every ghost pokemon useless?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 10 2012 23:42 GMT
#59
On August 11 2012 08:36 Forumite wrote:
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On August 11 2012 07:18 Kurumi wrote:
Can we trade pokemon? If I am for an example Haunter, would I evolve and gain new powers through it?

Sure, let´s trade. You get my Ratata, and I get your Haunter Gengar.


FEAR Ratata is probably one of the most broken strategies all be it really predictable
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 11 2012 00:26 GMT
#61
On August 11 2012 09:17 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 11 2012 08:42 Drazerk wrote:
On August 11 2012 08:36 Forumite wrote:
On August 11 2012 07:18 Kurumi wrote:
Can we trade pokemon? If I am for an example Haunter, would I evolve and gain new powers through it?

Sure, let´s trade. You get my Ratata, and I get your Haunter Gengar.


FEAR Ratata is probably one of the most broken strategies all be it really predictable

Top percentage of Ratatas. Joey-kun~


Who would want a Gengar when you have that
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 11 2012 15:49 GMT
#73
On August 12 2012 00:35 GreYMisT wrote:
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On August 12 2012 00:33 Zephirdd wrote:
inb4 mew is SK


SK is Gary Oak obviously


Wouldn't Gary Oak be more fitting as a cult leader?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 12 2012 19:52 GMT
#79
How long is this list?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 12 2012 20:39 GMT
#84
On August 13 2012 05:26 deconduo wrote:
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On August 13 2012 05:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I take it we have to choose something that fits the style of the pokemon?

Let's say I am told that I'm choosing for a fire style pokemon and I don't like the guy.
Could I, hypothecially speaking, give him some garbage role that has nothing to do with his specials? :p


I guess that's a little exaggerated but do I have to choose KP roles if their ability is being good at KP roles?
Edit: Oh nevermind about the "if I get someone I don't like", it's anonymous but the question's still the same.


Nope, no need. Its just a small incentive really to help balance role distribution, its not a mandatory thing at all. Sure a Squirtle that knows Flamethrower would be fun anyway


Scald is better...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 12 2012 21:36 GMT
#88
On August 13 2012 06:18 Zephirdd wrote:
Pikachu with Surf should gain extra KP imo.


This is first generation so Raichu is much stronger
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#90
On August 13 2012 06:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Technically 1st gen could have included mew, and look how that turned out.
Also, /in


Technically first gen has 240 pokemon but only 151 official
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 03:05:29
August 13 2012 03:04 GMT
#101
Zeph if I don't see sets from Smogon I'll be disappointed

http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 13 2012 14:56 GMT
#116
On August 13 2012 22:25 Zephirdd wrote:
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On August 13 2012 19:59 Kurumi wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:58 Zephirdd wrote:
Man, the best thing about this concept is that we can play so much with it and movesets!

Think about if you had, say, Hitmonlee as the player you have to give your powers. Give him Endure, Hi Jump Kick, Foresight and Meditate.

Endure makes him survive ANY amount of KP regardless of the source for the night, leaving with 0.1KP of life in case he would die, but make him no able to be targeted for the next night
Hi Jump Kick causes 1.5KP, but if the target is protected/avoids it somehow, user takes 0.5KP instead.
Foresight makes target unable to be protected/avoid attacks for the next night
Meditate adds an Attack and a Defense boost to Hitmonlee, boosting HJK by 0.15kp and reducing incoming KP by 0.15.
You can only use one ability per night.

Like, I made this just right now. It's not incredibly strong since there is a drawback for every ability, and it's incredibly interesting.

Hopefully players in this game like Pokemon as much as I do to create interesting roles like that. Hopefully, everyone has 4 abilities LOL :D

http://serebii.net/pokedex/

Use this if you want to create gen1-like pokemons for roles! :D

Meditate is a 3rd generation move. Endure and Foresight are 2nd generation move.
Sorry man :D


DING DING DING we got a winnar! I wondered how long would it take to people realize that XD


Generation 1 pokemon != generation 1 since fire red and leaf green exist
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 13 2012 16:26 GMT
#118
On August 14 2012 00:09 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 13 2012 23:56 Drazerk wrote:
On August 13 2012 22:25 Zephirdd wrote:
On August 13 2012 19:59 Kurumi wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:58 Zephirdd wrote:
Man, the best thing about this concept is that we can play so much with it and movesets!

Think about if you had, say, Hitmonlee as the player you have to give your powers. Give him Endure, Hi Jump Kick, Foresight and Meditate.

Endure makes him survive ANY amount of KP regardless of the source for the night, leaving with 0.1KP of life in case he would die, but make him no able to be targeted for the next night
Hi Jump Kick causes 1.5KP, but if the target is protected/avoids it somehow, user takes 0.5KP instead.
Foresight makes target unable to be protected/avoid attacks for the next night
Meditate adds an Attack and a Defense boost to Hitmonlee, boosting HJK by 0.15kp and reducing incoming KP by 0.15.
You can only use one ability per night.

Like, I made this just right now. It's not incredibly strong since there is a drawback for every ability, and it's incredibly interesting.

Hopefully players in this game like Pokemon as much as I do to create interesting roles like that. Hopefully, everyone has 4 abilities LOL :D

http://serebii.net/pokedex/

Use this if you want to create gen1-like pokemons for roles! :D

Meditate is a 3rd generation move. Endure and Foresight are 2nd generation move.
Sorry man :D


DING DING DING we got a winnar! I wondered how long would it take to people realize that XD


Generation 1 pokemon != generation 1 since fire red and leaf green exist

Fire Red and Leaf Green had 2 Gen Pokemon around in the Sevii Islands.


Generation 5 move pools open up more fun for role possibilities so I'll be sticking with those attacks and let the hosts work out what possible attack they could be for first generation
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 13 2012 23:33 GMT
#129
On August 14 2012 07:33 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 14 2012 07:30 deconduo wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:47 GreYMisT wrote:
Heck, We'd like 35.


Well yeah, but everyone seems to be hiding

And PTP is the craziest setup out there, always loads of fun T_T


So then do you want the Oracle role or for Dec to publicly announce you as scum?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 15 2012 14:15 GMT
#144
On August 15 2012 22:21 Zephirdd wrote:
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On August 15 2012 22:05 Toadesstern wrote:
I just realized this game has no kind of elections at all.
Quick, add some random major / Emperor election d1. Everyone loves elections.


Remember that pokémon is a japanese game, so it's most likely to be called "Erection"


Where do you think the day care man gets eggs from?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 15 2012 20:24 GMT
#150
How about the passive ability that VE dies at the start of every cycle?

(I swear I won't this game)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 16 2012 20:12 GMT
#169
Kenpachi is the batman
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 17 2012 09:24 GMT
#191
On August 17 2012 13:25 GreYMisT wrote:
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On August 17 2012 12:59 JingleHell wrote:
Do the powers have to be abilities specific to Pokemon, or is that just an additional thematic element?


No, chansey could be a mindnumbingly coldblooded killer.


That pretty much sums up Chansey in generation 1 where she has unlimited special stat
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 21:15 GMT
#225
On August 20 2012 06:11 strongandbig wrote:
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On August 20 2012 06:01 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:50 deconduo wrote:
Writing flavour for 25 pokemon is hard >.<



Come on, I bet everyone did as much legwork as I did. I even included *put welcome phrase / alignment here* and *here be generic poke-fluff* in the pm and not just the role!
That's pretty specific instructions. Shouldn't be to hard to come up with something like that.

Just kidding btw :p


I put flavor in my pm! ppl who didn't are probably lame.


I put flavour in mine
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 22:41 GMT
#242
##Take In Sunlight

##Solar Beam: VisceraEyes
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 22:45 GMT
#245
According to my role I can ^^
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 22:48 GMT
#250
On August 20 2012 07:46 Toadesstern wrote:
as if. I'll consider that a troll and if you really do damage I'll blast right back.

Also: sup guyses


I GOT A KP ROLE OUT OF MY TROLL

Basically all I wanted
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#253
On August 20 2012 07:49 Kenpachi wrote:
hi guys im Kenpachi and im Town


##Invoke the Kenpachi rule
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 22:52 GMT
#255
On August 20 2012 07:51 Toadesstern wrote:
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On August 20 2012 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:46 Toadesstern wrote:
as if. I'll consider that a troll and if you really do damage I'll blast right back.

Also: sup guyses


I GOT A KP ROLE OUT OF MY TROLL

Basically all I wanted

I said you're trolling. Go figure what that might mean for my post.


Still you wouldn't do the threat if you couldn't back up with something other than a half assed vote that means nothing
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 22:56 GMT
#257
On August 20 2012 07:55 strongandbig wrote:
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On August 20 2012 07:52 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:51 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:46 Toadesstern wrote:
as if. I'll consider that a troll and if you really do damage I'll blast right back.

Also: sup guyses


I GOT A KP ROLE OUT OF MY TROLL

Basically all I wanted

I said you're trolling. Go figure what that might mean for my post.


Still you wouldn't do the threat if you couldn't back up with something other than a half assed vote that means nothing



soooooo... why were you trying to out kp roles?


Track the damage track the scum
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 22:58 GMT
#260
On August 20 2012 07:57 HiroPro wrote:
lol, it's ptp. half the people in this game probably have kp


Hence why tracking as much as possible is important
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:11 GMT
#263
On August 20 2012 08:08 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 07:56 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:55 strongandbig wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:52 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:51 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:46 Toadesstern wrote:
as if. I'll consider that a troll and if you really do damage I'll blast right back.

Also: sup guyses


I GOT A KP ROLE OUT OF MY TROLL

Basically all I wanted

I said you're trolling. Go figure what that might mean for my post.


Still you wouldn't do the threat if you couldn't back up with something other than a half assed vote that means nothing



soooooo... why were you trying to out kp roles?


Track the damage track the scum


Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 07:58 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:57 HiroPro wrote:
lol, it's ptp. half the people in this game probably have kp


Hence why tracking as much as possible is important



Yeah so I'm pretty sure this doesn't make sense from a town point of view. The majority of kp roles (independent from scum factional KP) are likely to be town. And you're trying to justify tracking "kp roles".


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=90#1792

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=170#3382

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=180#3589

From PTP1 alone
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:16 GMT
#269
On August 20 2012 08:13 strongandbig wrote:
Oh, I'm not saying there aren't scum kp roles. I'm just saying there are probably more town kp roles than scum kp roles.


Scum will have at least 1-3KP How much do they actually get?

Then if balanced right they will get at least another 2-3KP from people's roles

If kenpachi is right there is 7KP roles

If I am also right there is only 4 town KP roles so Its more profitable for us to track the KP
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:19 GMT
#271
S+B you are my pokemon soul mate

Together we will ask the same questions and do the same stuff then I will murder you with 6 wobbofetts on Shoddy
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:20 GMT
#274
On August 20 2012 08:19 strongandbig wrote:
the assumption that there is an even number of roles of all types is a bad assumption.

Also you're not trying to track kp you're trying to track kp roles. Your trick wouldn't catch scum factional kp.

night!


Tracking KP roles IS tracking KP they are the same thing
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:21 GMT
#275
On August 20 2012 08:20 deconduo wrote:
Scum KP is hidden.


Then scum only have the KP roles people made

Pretty much all I'm gathering from this
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:26 GMT
#278
On August 20 2012 08:22 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 20 2012 08:21 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:20 deconduo wrote:
Scum KP is hidden.


Then scum only have the KP roles people made

Pretty much all I'm gathering from this

No that means Kp was balanced accordingly to the roles they got. That is so easy.


I honestly prefer my line of reasoning to that. Static KP means players become more important to others and gives trackers / watchers to have more power
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:26 GMT
#280
EBWOP

non static*
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:26 GMT
#281
On August 20 2012 08:26 grush57 wrote:
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On August 20 2012 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hi all. I am town.

Cheers




Kenpachi rule?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:36 GMT
#288
On August 20 2012 08:35 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 20 2012 08:33 Toadesstern wrote:
I'll decide on wether or not I want to blast drazerk away tomorrow. Need some sleep.

For now, stop the bullshit speculations please. It's PTP after all. It's already hard enough to make set-up speculations in normal games although it's very much possible.
In PTP it's ridiculously hard to a point that it's almost impossible.

See you tomorrow.

It is fun , come on dont try to shut down discussion without giving any new ideas. Your hesitation to deal with Drazerk is weird too.


At least I'm causing discussion which is normally horrible on day 1 T_T
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:38 GMT
#291
On August 20 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote:
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On August 20 2012 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hi all. I am town.

Cheers

Im assuming wherebugsgo can only be a bug-type, so lets list off gen 1 bug types:

010 Caterpie Bug
011 Metapod Bug
012 Butterfree Bug Flying
013 Weedle Bug Poison
014 Kakuna Bug Poison
015 Beedrill Bug Poison
046 Paras Bug Grass
047 Parasect Bug Grass
048 Venonat Bug Poison
049 Venomoth Bug Poison
123 Scyther Bug Flying

Now the real question is where bug types go, pokealliance or team rocket. If my memory serves me right, team rocket never used any of these bug type pokemon in the show. Therefore, wherebugsgo is telling the truth.

Flawless logic.


http://serebii.net/manga/characters/giovanni.shtml
http://serebii.net/manga/characters/blue.shtml

I win
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:41 GMT
#293
http://serebii.net/anime/mecha/mecha-pinsir.shtml
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:48 GMT
#299
On August 20 2012 08:47 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:49 Kenpachi wrote:
hi guys im Kenpachi and im Town


On August 20 2012 08:13 grush57 wrote:
Hey.
I'm town with blue.


On August 20 2012 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hi all. I am town.


Hey look, a bunch of individuals are clearly breadcrumbing the town role pm! How clever!

But wait a minute, everyone knows this is against the rules.

So what are the odds that the mafia team also has the town role pm or happened to pick up on the crumb and has decided to use it gain town cred? Sneaky sneaky!

Lynch bugs first?

Nah dont care about this , these are useless posts for the sake of posting (I know ...)


Isn't that what we was doing other than beginning to create a genuine dislike for Toad?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:49 GMT
#300
On August 20 2012 08:47 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:49 Kenpachi wrote:
hi guys im Kenpachi and im Town


On August 20 2012 08:13 grush57 wrote:
Hey.
I'm town with blue.


On August 20 2012 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hi all. I am town.


Hey look, a bunch of individuals are clearly breadcrumbing the town role pm! How clever!

But wait a minute, everyone knows this is against the rules.

So what are the odds that the mafia team also has the town role pm or happened to pick up on the crumb and has decided to use it gain town cred? Sneaky sneaky!

Lynch bugs first?




Volunteering for yourself with that No!?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#305
Hey Kurumi whats the bet Grush is useless all game?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:03 GMT
#309
On August 20 2012 09:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:59 grush57 wrote:
Come on, how are you helping at all right now?
You're wasting time with a useless player.
Anyways I've proven that I'm town.

How have you done that?

Also, in keeping with the spirit of the thread, spam spam spam


he said he was town and you're not allowed to lie in this game

also - [image loading]
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:03 GMT
#310
On August 20 2012 09:02 grush57 wrote:
See look at wiggles, he asks me a legit question. Plus, he continues my tradition

To answer the question, breadcrumb, and meta. Plus I'm town.

Now, we must find scum.

I must stop posting so scum can start posting and then we catch them.

Cool trick.


Drazerk's law 3: If they say the word meta they are scum
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:08 GMT
#314
I do love how 4/25 people enter the thread in the EXACT same way

Analysing how people join the thread is probably the most interesting part of the game
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:09 GMT
#316
On August 20 2012 09:07 grush57 wrote:
Anyways, no scum would be retarded enough to be this active early.
If anything they would be in a position asking the questions while not doing anything themselves like drazerk(or anyone else really)
However, the only way to prove your innocence is to catch scum.
U C?


The key to winning on either side is thread presence

This will never ever ever change.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:13 GMT
#322
On August 20 2012 09:13 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 09:07 grush57 wrote:
Anyways, no scum would be retarded enough to be this active early.
If anything they would be in a position asking the questions while not doing anything themselves like drazerk(or anyone else really)
However, the only way to prove your innocence is to catch scum.
U C?


The key to winning on either side is thread presence

This will never ever ever change.


Well also that isn't true always.
Alot of games scum just lurks and town just kills itself.


Fine in games where towns are actually competent the key to winning is thread presence
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:32 GMT
#328
On August 20 2012 09:31 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:28 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:26 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:22 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:21 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:20 deconduo wrote:
Scum KP is hidden.


Then scum only have the KP roles people made

Pretty much all I'm gathering from this

No that means Kp was balanced accordingly to the roles they got. That is so easy.


I honestly prefer my line of reasoning to that. Static KP means players become more important to others and gives trackers / watchers to have more power

Themed games are not an exception of "make setups fair" rule. That is just the usual cleaning hosts do. Role cops are the strongest roles out there pretty much , but given that you can make really strong roles I wouldnt be surprised if I have seen a Cop checking everything and so on .


What if I told you


you can create rolecop immune roles.


What if I told you you could create rolecop immune penetration roles
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 00:58 GMT
#332
Damnit Grush!
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 01:17 GMT
#334
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 01:23 GMT
#337
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 01:28 GMT
#339
On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons


I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice.




I never defend myself

You should know this by now
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 01:44 GMT
#341
On August 20 2012 10:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons


I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice.




I never defend myself

You should know this by now


Then you should really stop playing so scummy. Playing as you are now reaks almost as distinctly red as mr kurumi over there. He smells bad.


Theres no real way for me to stop looking like scum with my play style and its why you will need to kill me (I said kill not lynch) before Lylo other whys ill make an awful call at a critical situation and lose town the game or you will all suspect me and lose town the game.
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 02:34 GMT
#344
On August 20 2012 10:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons


I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice.




I never defend myself

You should know this by now


Then you should really stop playing so scummy. Playing as you are now reaks almost as distinctly red as mr kurumi over there. He smells bad.


Theres no real way for me to stop looking like scum with my play style and its why you will need to kill me (I said kill not lynch) before Lylo other whys ill make an awful call at a critical situation and lose town the game or you will all suspect me and lose town the game.


is this supposed to be a cop out for you? Like, a disclaimer that you're just going to be awful for the rest of the game?

Why don't you just...I dunno, play better?


No I still try to play well I just know I shouldn't be alive if town want to win
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 03:42 GMT
#349
On August 20 2012 12:32 BioSC wrote:
Well, it will stop me from accusing him of being scum I guess.


Wait you haven't actually posted anything yet...
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 03:48 GMT
#353
On August 20 2012 12:44 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 12:42 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 12:32 BioSC wrote:
Well, it will stop me from accusing him of being scum I guess.


Wait you haven't actually posted anything yet...


It was more a reference to my last game with him.

What would you like to talk about, darling?


Top 3 scum targets

thoughts on the 4/25 lol I'm entering the thread posts

What is the meaning to life?
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 03:49 GMT
#354
On August 20 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
Whee, this is seeming insane. On the plus side, Grush has the best icon I've ever seen him with now. And if he avoids a modkill, we should lynch him. Because let's face it. He's been active and not sounded like he was washing down speed with gasoline, which doesn't fit his town meta at all.


We're not lynching anyone for meta reasons
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 04:01 GMT
#356
On August 20 2012 12:54 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 12:49 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
Whee, this is seeming insane. On the plus side, Grush has the best icon I've ever seen him with now. And if he avoids a modkill, we should lynch him. Because let's face it. He's been active and not sounded like he was washing down speed with gasoline, which doesn't fit his town meta at all.


We're not lynching anyone for meta reasons


Ignoring the part where you're not synonymous with we, I can think of other reasons to lynch Grush, like the fact that it reduces the number of posts that sound like they were made by Grush. Which is a benefit in and of itself.

Do you have a candidate to suggest? Or are you stifling discussion for a reason that isn't scummy?


I hate the word meta and everything assosiated with it you don't really have a real case on him and I am challenging you to present one based on what has already been posted not what he may do because he is grush

He's probably going to be replaced / killed anyhow so there isn't a point discussing him until we know whats happening
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 12:24 GMT
#371
On August 20 2012 18:59 strongandbig wrote:
Let me restate the argument in a different way: it's not only that Drazerk wouldn't be serious if he's town, although that's part of it; it's also that Drazerk's arguments seem thrown together after the fact to justify his actions, and I don't think town Drazerk would do that - he would either think things through first or he would just ignore questions about his actions.

But if this doesn't ring true to anyone else, I'll set it aside until there's more evidence to go on. Last time I played a crazy game with Drazerk, he was town but I thought he was scum and got sucked into tunneling him for most of the game, so I'm going to try to avoid that this time.


Hey hey hey hey hey I justify my actions even in Bastard you was just tunnelling me so god hard to see it also I've never thought things through in any game of mafia ever so yeah.

As I said I need to be KILLED not lynched

I chose solar beam because I knew anyone with pokemon knowledge would see it as a joke I'm not that cruel to want to kill VE over and over

You're big case was rather long and I don't care I'm only posting to move the discussion along
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 12:30 GMT
#372
Also to go one step further

I'm a bug type so fire / flying / rock types - Bring it
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 12:50 GMT
#374
[image loading]


Thats you right now.
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 12:54 GMT
#376
On August 20 2012 21:52 Toadesstern wrote:
I was SO going to post it :p


Something tells me you was trying to talk to the person who actually had metronome though...
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 13:32 GMT
#382
On August 20 2012 22:06 Zephirdd wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 21:54 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 21:52 Toadesstern wrote:
I was SO going to post it :p


Something tells me you was trying to talk to the person who actually had metronome though...

You were

And Toad, what did that do? Did it do anything at all? >_>

Oh Oh Oh is it like I suggested pregame? you use a random ability from any player in the game??? *___*


My dialect my rules T_T
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 20:26 GMT
#403
On August 21 2012 05:19 Chezinu wrote:
Yay town is alive! or is it mafia?

Let's talk about the normal stuff that I love ignoring and not talking about.

Such as: Should we all role claim our pokemon names? Or mass claim abilities? Or discuss who has post restrictions.. or who has the abilities to be a pokedex or whatever the pokemon identifying device is called... or who has a third party objective just to survive and has to kill a certain pokemon... or maybe has to a pokemon that way imba like mewtwo that can pm people and read people's darkest secrets...Guys where are yous? Where is the typical dicussions that I can try to troll-jack to find them rocket peoples? Where Ares you?


Hmmm.........

So yeah ##Vote: Chezinu

At least until you read the thread.
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 20:28 GMT
#406
On August 21 2012 05:27 Chezinu wrote:
##Vote: Drazerk

Look what I caught! works like every game. lol


You've yet to post anything...
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 20:29 GMT
#408
On August 21 2012 05:28 Kurumi wrote:
Draz , your first post was a stunt ? Why ?


Because I could
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 20:31 GMT
#410
On August 21 2012 05:30 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 05:28 Drazerk wrote:
On August 21 2012 05:27 Chezinu wrote:
##Vote: Drazerk

Look what I caught! works like every game. lol


You've yet to post anything...

I posts lots of stuff. Oh I gets it, sooo funny!

"anything..."

there I did it, happy?


At least I'm trying to take part in the game while you are posting nothing of value T_T
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 20:34 GMT
#413
On August 21 2012 05:33 strongandbig wrote:
Oh hey drazerk.

Since when is "chezinu not reading the thread" a scum tell for him?


Poke vote is a poke vote

Read carefully
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 20:44 GMT
#416
On August 21 2012 05:39 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 05:29 Drazerk wrote:
On August 21 2012 05:28 Kurumi wrote:
Draz , your first post was a stunt ? Why ?


Because I could

Yeah I figured it was a scum motive, but not such a mindless one. Why would Toad hesitate to get rid of you?


I cause havoc and chaos which allows for scum to slip in unnoticed or he thinks I am a vengful townie or mad hatter who intentionally wants to die to kill people
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 20:49 GMT
#421
On August 21 2012 05:45 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 05:44 Drazerk wrote:
On August 21 2012 05:39 Kurumi wrote:
On August 21 2012 05:29 Drazerk wrote:
On August 21 2012 05:28 Kurumi wrote:
Draz , your first post was a stunt ? Why ?


Because I could

Yeah I figured it was a scum motive, but not such a mindless one. Why would Toad hesitate to get rid of you?


I cause havoc and chaos which allows for scum to slip in unnoticed or he thinks I am a vengful townie or mad hatter who intentionally wants to die to kill people

Deconduo said that village idiots are bad idea. Oh well , off to Toad then.


Vengful townie != VI

They are two very different roles
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 21:13 GMT
#431
On August 21 2012 06:10 Toadesstern wrote:
hey s&b:
Do you think Kurumi is trying to fish reaction or is he trying to taunt me into hypnotoad-mode so that I shit up the thread with his most recent bullshit?


I vote for both
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 21:18 GMT
#437
On August 21 2012 06:16 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 06:13 heist wrote:
personally I'm inclined to kill anyone who wants to die

Then help me and kill me


You're not a good lynch candidate you're more a hyper beam + bubble beam + charge beam + ice beam + aura beam them in the face type of person like me.
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 21:19 GMT
#439
On August 21 2012 06:18 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 06:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:13 heist wrote:
personally I'm inclined to kill anyone who wants to die

Then help me and kill me

It's a trap! Kurumi could be one of those pocket monsters that shoots back what ever you throw at him!


http://serebii.net/abilitydex/aftermath.shtml
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 22:11 GMT
#455
On August 21 2012 07:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
There's useless and there's maliciously useless. I've never encountered someone with as little respect for his fellow players as grush, so I've never really been in a position to PL this kind of player before. Time and again grush proves that he's not only not interested in reading the thread, but he's also not interested in even posting coherently about the stuff he DOES read (which is generally the page of and prior to the latest post).

No, I'm done playing with grush until he can prove he's gonna actually play the game.


Which he can't do because hes banned making it a pointless lynch since it means no discussion / sides / connections to be made
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 22:48 GMT
#470
To the above plan

I made a role that kinda hard brakes claiming what we made roles for so lets never ever do that.
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 22:51 GMT
#473
On August 21 2012 07:50 Kenpachi wrote:
kinda wanna kill Drazerk because i dont wanna take chances.


Doesn't the same logic apply to you?
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 23:12 GMT
#477
On August 21 2012 08:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 21:30 Drazerk wrote:
Also to go one step further

I'm a bug type so fire / flying / rock types - Bring it


Herp derp?

I don't know if anyone else noticed this (I have to reread some of what I missed) but I saw this and figured it has to be pointed out.

Unfortunately it's Drazerk, so to be completely honest my read of Drazerk doesn't change here.


I'm an exception to my own rule because at some point I need to be taken down for the good of the town
Drazerk
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August 20 2012 23:50 GMT
#484
On August 21 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 08:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm reading AND care Mattchew, care to elaborate on why you think otherwise?

cause you haven't sunk your teeth into a real candidate with reason yet, you haven't picked a fight, you also havent explained why you havent done the previously mentioned things. you usually do atleast 1 of these things as town


Sounds like you...
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 00:40 GMT
#498
On August 21 2012 09:33 bumatlarge wrote:
If a townie is ever split 50/50 on something and there is not much context to go on, he can rely on the "mafia dont shoot each other" technique.


I would shoot my own team mates as scum so that isn't exactly true especially in a game which is likely to have trackers / watchers like this one since it throws town off so much that the end results are hilarious

(Not to mention the team mate rage )
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 02:12 GMT
#516
So anyone who was watching on SRL just knows I got the worst luck possible T_T

Lets catch a scum today please?
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 02:18 GMT
#518
On August 21 2012 11:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
SRL?


http://speedrunslive.com/race/?id=by0b4

Not that important but an awesome community
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 17:21 GMT
#621
On August 22 2012 02:13 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
If no one claims that shot within the next 5 minutes, I'm going to treat it as a scum shot, and Meowth becomes an instant lynch/shot.


I already outed someone with KP why not look at him...
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 17:25 GMT
#624
On August 22 2012 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh..Meowth...Team Rocket...I see what's going on here.


Role != alignment

Also scum can shoot at one another
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 17:30 GMT
#626
On August 22 2012 02:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
How imteresting of you to bring up Draz...tell me more.


Read the thread
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 17:36 GMT
#628
On August 22 2012 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd rather someone else do it for me. I'm injured,after all.


lol you claimed rock type so that means you have another 1.5life which puts you still more alive than everyone else so you have no excuse
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 17:40 GMT
#631
On August 22 2012 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also how do you know how much damage I took anyway? I never claimed that.


You claimed not very effective on a normal type that basically means rock / ground or ghost type = Veteran powers

I naturally assume 1kp /2 = 0.5kp
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 17:43 GMT
#634
On August 22 2012 02:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
I said not very effective because I'm still alive.


They are completely different things in the world of pokemon

Be more specific or you will be banned from the shoddy servers
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 17:58 GMT
#638
Toad I still believe your Meowth so no getting out of this
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 18:09 GMT
#647
On August 22 2012 03:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Draz, answer my question please.
Show nested quote +
If you could single-handedly choose the lynch right now (choose a player to kill), who would it be, and why? Please give me your reasoning for who you chose.


A combination of VE, mattchew and toad because I think the first two are useless and not playing to their potential and I think toad is Meowth

But this is why I never choose who to lynch and its a silly question
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 18:44 GMT
#664
On August 22 2012 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Shit is there more kp coming later or something?!

wtf


Payday gives money based on level IIRC its not multiple attack
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 18:52 GMT
#674
On August 22 2012 03:50 Mementoss wrote:
Just speculating but:

Pay Day does damage, and scatters coins on the ground with a value equal to twice the user's level for each time it's used. These coins are picked up afterwards if the player wins the battle.

I'm assuming whoever used pay day on VE doesn't want people to know, because after VE dies later in the game, the player who used payday on him will receive something.


More coins for more payday?
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 21:16 GMT
#717
Whats going to happen to Zel?
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 22:15 GMT
#720
On August 22 2012 06:47 HiroPro wrote:
Whoever made Meowth should tell us what that role is. There is no reason for a townie to not have claimed the shot.


I can think of a few -

Multi shot compulsive day vigi
Linked to another player (Lovers/Siblings (although more likely for Nidoran))
The fact there are roles out there that need names to kill people
The fact there are roles out there that need names to turn them green

There is probably more I can't think of right now but those are the ones that stick out in my head
Drazerk
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August 21 2012 22:36 GMT
#726
Meowth is a cat the only medic ability it will likely to have is healing itself by licking itself T_T
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 01:25 GMT
#739
On August 22 2012 10:24 grush57 wrote:
Hey i got unbanned :D


and now the grush discussions will restart...
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 05:41 GMT
#773
Claiming who you made the role for OR what your role is will result in you being turned into a VT - This is multi target infinite use with no drawbacks (ok one minor drawback but lol who cares about that when you have an unstoppable VT laser(They will never know about it even though it is in effect right now))

It took a lot of arguments to get this role into the game but there is only one way around the power that I can't divulge but should be obvious if it is triggered however those already effected won't be able to do anything about it sadly

I have been trying to hint this already but I really doubt people cared enough to look
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 17:29 GMT
#794
On August 23 2012 02:20 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:58 HiroPro wrote:
On August 22 2012 20:56 Toadesstern wrote:
The creator of a role is not allowed to talk about it until the role has flipped according to a mod-statement. Are you trying to get someone mod-killed?
Why is it a role scum likely has? There has been a lot of talk about Meowth so far. Just picture him being some crazy shit like dayvig + bulletproof. Noone in their right mind would claim something like that because it would help mafia.

Besides: I shot our lovely hosts a PM and I'm totally not going to talk about what a host told me or publish a host-pm but I guess asking the right question might shed some light on some things like:
a) Meowth
b) VE
That being said. I like both VE and Meowth right now, which may sound quite strange but I doubt any of those two is actually mafia although one shot the other.


It's not the fact that Meowth didn't claim their role - it's the fact that they didn't claim the shot. It shows that they likely don't want to take responsibility for it.

Even the role you suggested would have no problem announcing that they fired a shot. Its not like that would force them to claim their full role.

Now if they thought like Drazerk did, then maybe I could see why they wouldn't claim shooting.


drazerk's thing doesn't hit you if you claim the role you received, it hits you if you claim the role you created.


Yes it does sorry if that wasn't clear
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 18:14 GMT
#803
On August 23 2012 03:07 strongandbig wrote:
So could they have vanilla-lasered zephirdd when he claimed his role? What if someone fakeclaims? What if they claim part of their role and not a different part?


If they get it wrong it fizzles

If they try to multi target and even one is wrong - it fizzles
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 18:16 GMT
#804
Oh and did I mention they have to publicly do this?

They are going to wait until they have at least 4-5 victims
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 18:20 GMT
#806
On August 23 2012 03:17 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:16 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and did I mention they have to publicly do this?

They are going to wait until they have at least 4-5 victims


So basically this has to be a scum role and to use it, scum has to publicly out themselves, and have a chance of it being wrong and none of it working, and then they just get killed for it?... Sounds so fake.


Well no because its infinite use so even if they get it wrong the first time they can just post again within the next second
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 18:26 GMT
#810
On August 23 2012 03:21 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:20 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2012 03:17 Mementoss wrote:
On August 23 2012 03:16 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and did I mention they have to publicly do this?

They are going to wait until they have at least 4-5 victims


So basically this has to be a scum role and to use it, scum has to publicly out themselves, and have a chance of it being wrong and none of it working, and then they just get killed for it?... Sounds so fake.


Well no because its infinite use so even if they get it wrong the first time they can just post again within the next second


So you could just spam the thread and guess every 151 pokemon for 1 person and then make them a VT no matter what. For sacrificing your life...


Theres a catch with spamming it - Trust me with this one.
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 19:14 GMT
#815
Probably unwise to use the role I actually made Kurumi
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 19:22 GMT
#817
On August 23 2012 04:20 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 04:11 Kenpachi wrote:
Butterfly


Kenpachi your filter is great man


Better than most of his games
Drazerk
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August 22 2012 21:07 GMT
#848
On August 23 2012 06:06 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 23 2012 06:02 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:51 Kurumi wrote:
I am not a vig , dt or medic for fucks sake , I am a roleblocker cancelling resistances. You are tunneling me since I started posting and you have never voted me. You made a case on me with purpose of making a case. Your entire argument was that I am overly active and not scared of anything. Interesting mafia traits, arent they? Well, as scum you need to make up ridiculous stuff so I understand. Peer pressure and stuff.


a rolblocker who is cancelling resistances is something that is less responsibility than something that kills stuff in my book. So yeah you're not a vig I get that.

I voted you. I voted you until 2 or 3 hours prior to the deadline and switched later on because sadly a Kurumi lynch was not happening. My bad.

I pointed out that you are defensive without a reason to be defensive. That's what I did. The reasoning is that you ARE scared like you just admitted with your role, like I said when I did the case talking about you being way to defensive without a reason.

Nah I lied about my role to help Drazerk. But he seems to be dying so


How did you know about it being butterfree?
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August 22 2012 21:12 GMT
#852
On August 23 2012 06:11 Kurumi wrote:
Also the role is not that bad Drazzie, although one part is a little sad haha


I had to balance it somehow
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August 22 2012 21:17 GMT
#854
On August 23 2012 06:15 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 23 2012 06:12 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2012 06:11 Kurumi wrote:
Also the role is not that bad Drazzie, although one part is a little sad haha


I had to balance it somehow

Yeah, I guess you have taken the idea from the first Ptp I guess? Nice though, good for both sides too. Will I evolve though?


Can't say due to the evolution mechanics I put in place
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August 22 2012 21:19 GMT
#858
CALLED IT

I FUCKING CALLED IT
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August 22 2012 21:56 GMT
#871
At least Dec didn't publicly announce you as scum like he did to me in PTP2
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August 23 2012 00:54 GMT
#881
##Sunny Day

Fire damage now does 0.5kp more damage which shouldn't be too bad when you consider we just killed 1 of 3 fire pokemon in the first generation

Water damage now does 0.5kp LESS which should reduce over all KP considering just how many water pokemon there is in every generation (so many water pokemon) and put a lot more focus on the lynches rather than all the crazy powers.
Drazerk
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August 23 2012 00:58 GMT
#883
DAMNIT

I forgot about growlif T_T
Drazerk
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August 23 2012 01:02 GMT
#885
Why would eevee evolve into anything but Jolteon in first gen

Moltres is legendary so I've excluded it (There are no flying types in this game check the OP)
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August 23 2012 01:04 GMT
#886
But yeah I was thinking of 4th gen that only has chimchar and ponyta in it
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August 23 2012 01:06 GMT
#889
On August 23 2012 10:05 Mementoss wrote:
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On August 23 2012 10:02 Drazerk wrote:
Why would eevee evolve into anything but Jolteon in first gen

Moltres is legendary so I've excluded it (There are no flying types in this game check the OP)


You realize there is no only flying type pokemon in gen 1 , all of them have another type which are all covered in OP.


There are only two pure flying types

Tornadoes and Arceus
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August 23 2012 01:10 GMT
#893
On August 23 2012 10:09 Mementoss wrote:
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On August 23 2012 10:08 Kurumi wrote:
Zephir is town


How do you figure?


I read him as a vet trying to take bullets but we really need to see more of him
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August 23 2012 01:44 GMT
#920
On August 23 2012 10:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On August 23 2012 10:41 Kenpachi wrote:
i dunno isnt that a glaring scumslip



I do believe it is, however lurking the thread then voting without posting at all is also a pretty terrible play.


... You're aware you're speaking to Kenpachi right?
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August 23 2012 04:20 GMT
#945
Best scum bus and don't give two shits about their team mates.
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August 23 2012 04:34 GMT
#949
Personally I'd rather kill Wiggles / Mattchew over Dirk but thats because I honestly get no vibes from the case and I hate voting on things I don't care about.
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August 23 2012 11:52 GMT
#969
I struggle to see the reasoning behind that shot over the long list of lurkers and people like Grush / Kurumi etc

I guess a spam storm between BC / Wiggles was averted by his death which is a perk but I would of preferred it being a lynch so people would have had to pick sides with our vets
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August 23 2012 12:40 GMT
#971
I can see why people WOULD shoot you thats why I listed your name, I probably should of added my own to be honest
Drazerk
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August 23 2012 12:41 GMT
#972
Also you know why I would want you to draw bullets...
Drazerk
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August 23 2012 12:46 GMT
#974
Well that confirmed it you really are butterfree
Drazerk
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August 24 2012 00:49 GMT
#1063
I still think scum would of shot VE for flip insurance but so far his play is coming of as town to me

I dislike Wiggles because of the timing on the shooting and the majority of his play only happening when he was under scrutiny.

Mattchew is giving me bad vibes but the bandwagon is ALSO giving me bad vibes so I'm not sure what to do about that but given the choice of Mattcher / Dirk ill probably vote mattchew

I want to see more of the following - Jinglehell, Heist and Misder or for someone to shoot all three

I also want Kurumi to tell us what he knows about Zel because something is clearly up with that.
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August 24 2012 00:51 GMT
#1064
On August 24 2012 09:40 Mattchew wrote:
so since everyone wants to ignore my question

i am pikachu, a blue pokemon, who can do .5 kp of damage every night and I shot wiggles night 1 and he never said anything about being shot which i find weird. I also think Dirk is scum so I would like to lynch him and finish my shots on wiggles but meh whatever.

the amount of connection theory scum hunting going on is disgusting by the way.



Would people be told they was hit even if they took 0 damage?
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August 24 2012 01:05 GMT
#1066
Why are you all role claiming when KURUMI of all people has a VT laser...
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August 24 2012 01:07 GMT
#1068
Didn't S+B kill himself?
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August 24 2012 08:22 GMT
#1103
On August 24 2012 16:46 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 24 2012 16:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 10:05 Drazerk wrote:
Why are you all role claiming when KURUMI of all people has a VT laser...

I forgot HEY BITCHES ZEPHY IS SO COOL HE CAN BLOCK THE SUN AND THEN CREATE ANOTHER ONE! DOUBLE SUN POWER!
Also I am Caterpie. Sue me.

I am braindead so I forgot that Draz made my role and I am the laser guy lol
Obligatory hurt durr i am a horse
Will try to get a photo of me with pants on my head


Don't use harden It kills you even though it will say other whys
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August 24 2012 08:35 GMT
#1105
On August 24 2012 17:34 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 24 2012 17:22 Drazerk wrote:
On August 24 2012 16:46 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 16:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 10:05 Drazerk wrote:
Why are you all role claiming when KURUMI of all people has a VT laser...

I forgot HEY BITCHES ZEPHY IS SO COOL HE CAN BLOCK THE SUN AND THEN CREATE ANOTHER ONE! DOUBLE SUN POWER!
Also I am Caterpie. Sue me.

I am braindead so I forgot that Draz made my role and I am the laser guy lol
Obligatory hurt durr i am a horse
Will try to get a photo of me with pants on my head


Don't use harden It kills you even though it will say other whys

Yeah it would be good to evolve into that damn Metapod first


You will at the end of this cycle
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August 24 2012 12:16 GMT
#1110
The only thing making me hesitant is the fact we would need electrabuzz or jolteon to take down Gyrados but then again I don't believe the claim so why do I care

##Vote: Mattchew
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August 24 2012 12:56 GMT
#1112
On August 24 2012 21:42 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 24 2012 21:16 Drazerk wrote:
The only thing making me hesitant is the fact we would need electrabuzz or jolteon to take down Gyrados but then again I don't believe the claim so why do I care

##Vote: Mattchew

Rock is 2x against flying


Huh I thought the water cancelled that out...

I HAVE A GDOS ON MY DRIZZLE TEAM T_T
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August 24 2012 14:41 GMT
#1116
On August 24 2012 23:32 Mattchew wrote:
So you all believe that I have a scum team that didn't tell me I have a full kp instead of a .5 and that if I had known I had a full kp I would still post in the thread that I shot a target I didnt end up actually shooting and one that didn't die and that I hit them .5 kp. All this would be a huge risk for what? What does me flipping scum make wiggles ?

Are you all this bad at deductive reasoning?


I'd throw my entire team mate under a bus any day; I let my team make their own mistakes and don't help them at all.

So yes it is completely possible your scum team hates your guts and want you dead to buy themselves the SMALLEST shred of town credit.
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August 24 2012 14:43 GMT
#1117
actually if you're scum it probably won't even count as town cred lynching you at this point...
Drazerk
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August 25 2012 01:43 GMT
#1306
I went to bed and you guys lynched a townie?

I also dislike Misder please shoot him.
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August 25 2012 02:45 GMT
#1309
On August 25 2012 11:43 Zephirdd wrote:
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On August 25 2012 10:43 Drazerk wrote:
I went to bed and you guys lynched a townie?

I also dislike Misder please shoot him.


What the fuck is this post.

...with that I am out to a party.


You always seem to be going somewhere don't you
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August 25 2012 02:52 GMT
#1312
On August 25 2012 11:48 Zephirdd wrote:
EBWOP

it's 23:47 BRT and I've been working all week. it's night. Now explain that post.


I woke up to a mislynch and I am starting to hate this town

Misder is an active lurker with bad arguments with a throw away vote and needs to die
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August 25 2012 02:56 GMT
#1313
and if you can't tell I am pretty grumpy at the moment
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August 26 2012 00:38 GMT
#1344
##Vote: Misder

Kill him with fire also Dirk nice zodiac list
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August 26 2012 03:33 GMT
#1349
On August 26 2012 12:27 grush57 wrote:
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On August 26 2012 12:16 Mementoss wrote:
On August 26 2012 12:01 grush57 wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:38 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: Misder

Kill him with fire also Dirk nice zodiac list


Mr.Wiggles will reveal more. Plus 100% scum meta.
##Vote: Mr. Wiggles


lynching scum >> lynching for info

.. no?


I mean their both scum. But, Wiggles would be a better choice imo.


I see misder as a sure scum

Wiggles I see as 80% probablity of scum

I always go for the sure scum.
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August 26 2012 03:38 GMT
#1350
Also Kurumi how do you like your new ability?

Its perfect for you!
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August 26 2012 06:07 GMT
#1355
This sums up Jingle+Mattchew -

[image loading]
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August 26 2012 13:54 GMT
#1358
To put this out there Jingle - Kurumi knows basically 20% of his actual role I put in a lot of pitfalls and traps he isn't aware of when using his abilities so while it may not say something in your PM that might be because the creator is a dick like me and designed it that way (Seriously Kurumi if you use harden I will murder you when this game is done)

@Dirk - Zodiac list is basically a sum up of every player in the game... which is kinda useless IMO

Drazerk
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August 27 2012 09:16 GMT
#1375
This uncertainty about the shot Dirk?

This is exactly why scum would shoot someone at that point (Ally or foe it matters not). This was done only to cause confusion and mayhem later in the game when we deal with VE since scum are clearly not going to kill him any time soon after that shot.
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August 27 2012 09:20 GMT
#1376
Basically - Ignore the shot evaluate the person.
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August 27 2012 15:02 GMT
#1380
I want to also kill Misder and my opinion won't be swayed today
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August 28 2012 11:51 GMT
#1526
On August 28 2012 06:09 Kurumi wrote:
Drazzie how do I evolve?
t-t


Don't use harden for two cycles in a row. For people in the thread - if Kurumi uses harden he becomes immune to lynches so yeah shoot him in the face but unable to do anything for the rest of the game so he will be stuck in an eternal harden loop.

As for the VE lynch... this is why we lynch the scum in front of us rather than the last minute cases brought forth by someone who half of you was voting for and even used the shot as a reason to call him scum which I told everyone to ignore for obvious reasons.

So here is how tomorrow will work. We shoot Misder or Kenpachi or any other shit lurker tonight and we all become MUCH MUCH MUCH more active ( If you have less than 10 pages filter by the next cycle you're doing it wrong (No I don't care if it makes the thread hard to read for you lazy asses long discussions are good and its something we horribly need at the moment) ) and we lynch the scum in front of us like Misder.

And non of us go to sleep during the deadline times no matter how tired I am.
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August 28 2012 12:04 GMT
#1528
Sleeping during the only period of time where there was any activity at all... yeah thats why I did nothing.
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August 28 2012 12:13 GMT
#1531
On August 28 2012 21:12 Mattchew wrote:
I am not shooting tonight.


Why?
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August 28 2012 13:44 GMT
#1538
On August 28 2012 21:51 Dirkzor wrote:
Okay drazark. Lets crank up the activity. I know its night and all but we have to start somewhere.

You have mentioned Misder more then once and that we should kill him. You never said why or mentioned any case on him. Explain to my why you think he is scum.


I don't mention cases generally since I demand people read the thread and when the cases are in place its obvious I've read them and based my opinions from them its rarely my job to convince people to join a bandwagon I simply jump up and down and shout at people until they vote for who I want.

It looks like he knows more than us (This post stuck out for me especially)

On August 25 2012 04:37 Misder wrote:
Really, this lynch is between 3 townies. This is ridiculous.



he has been jumping on bandwagons (Latest one)

On August 28 2012 05:50 Misder wrote:
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On August 28 2012 05:10 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On August 28 2012 04:24 Mementoss wrote:
On August 28 2012 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 28 2012 04:10 BioSC wrote:
Whelp. As it turns out, MLG weekend + TI2 Weekend plus lots of procrastinated homework means one inactive Bio. Combine that with a general "woe is me" about my reads in general makes it hard to put forth the effort. Well, here we go again.

My 2 choices are misder or VE. Misder for his active lurking + the play around the time of yesterday's lynch.

VE, because the case by HiroPro
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On August 27 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote:
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On August 27 2012 07:34 Mementoss wrote:
On August 27 2012 07:31 HiroPro wrote:
hm, wiggles sounds legitimately annoyed. Can't decide whether to kill biosc or misder, drrrr.

##Unvote


What are your thoughts on VE /dirkzor


I haven't really read much since Toad died, so fresh look and all lol.

Dirkzor I think is town. His early play I think was mostly just because of how much pressure he was under from BC and I think he's actually trying to contribute.

I think VE is scum now for a couple of reasons.

First, the thing with grush still strikes me as really uncharacteristic of town VE. VE is someone who throws out policy lynches as town, but it's almost always "if we have no strong scum reads, we should lynch a lurker". For him to push a policy lynch on a person for their play in other games is just mind-boggling. VE has always emphasized that there is no such thing as an "useless townie" because they're still a member of town to count against the mafia wincon, yet now his views have suddenly flipped. If you look at the LVI postgame (the last game with VE and grush in it), there's nothing to suggest that VE was unduly mad. Yes, I know he made some comment pregame about how grush would likely just lurk and troll, but at least before VE pushed the policy lynch, grush had seemed ok in activity and was at least responding to others.

Next looking at the whole Wiggles-BC feud: Beforehand VE had said that he thought Wiggles was scum. But then when the cases come out, literally the only thing VE has to say about those two cases is a mild dislike of one of BC's points. Otherwise he just says afterward " BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched" and "Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.". That doesn't look like VE analyzing someone's play and reaching a conclusion based on that. It looks like him making a preconceived judgement and fitting what happens around it.

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On August 23 2012 17:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why does BC keep referencing Bugs' post as if Bugs is accusing Wiggles? He's said it twice I think now, and I don't think Bugs was accusing Wiggles at all.


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On August 23 2012 18:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
But it won't be - Bugs is alive to say "no guy, I think Wiggles is town (as my post indicates), LTR"

That's my point - it won't be Bugs' fault at all.


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On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles


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On August 24 2012 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:11 grush57 wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:09 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles

Nah, Wiggles attacking bc is a null tell in my opinion. Look at the timing of this hit, if they wanted to kill bc they would do it faster, it smells like a frame to me.

Yeah I considered that aswell, but wiggles has been scummy HMMMMMMMMMMMM idk man

also biosc where u been at man!

Wiggles scummy ? He seems the only person devoting his time to this game. Some guys dont have enough time , yadda yadda. Although his theory on the lynch sounds wrong... Well I think Dirk is scum based on one post... I did not vote him because of my doubts (his points about viscera were good) it is hard to reread the thread on the phone, eh.


Is this a joke? First of all, Wiggles posted like ONE time D1, and that was to vote me and DISAPPEAR. He had NO inclination to affect the lynch yesterday and, as Bugs and Wiggles will tell you, scum seemed to be perfectly content with the way the wagons were going too.

Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.

In what way is Wiggles "devoting his time to this game"?

This is strikingly similar to his play in LV - vote, disappear, return to build a case, vote, disappear. I'm voting Mr.Wiggles because I think he's scum. I hope you guys will join me.


Then, the amount of times VE promises thoughts and reads but then when he comes back has pretty much nothing useful to say.

I know someone is going to bring up the shot done by Toad, but frankly I think it could just be separation. Toad knew it was only 0.5 KP and not going to pose a threat to VE actually dying.

Maybe I'm being an idiot right now in ignoring BC lol, but it's not like I've been doing anything this game for some time now.

##Vote VisceraEyes


Makes sense to me.

And the more I go through cases and stuff, the less confident I am about them. Great.

Tell you what. I'm going to go sheep the veteran flipped townie. My reads are shit and I know it.

##Vote Wiggles

Ahahahahahahahaha


Now that your here who do you think are scum.

VE is scum.

Day 1 he came out posting about policy lynching Grush. His reasons were not based on alignment. He put the onus of scumhunting onto other people, telling them it was their responsibility to convince him to lynch someone other than grush. Not convince him that their targets were scummier than grush, because his policy lynch wasn't based on grush being scummy, just that it would be better to try to lynch scum than a random person.

After he was rightfully called out on his posting, VE pulled a 180. Some kind of sentiment that VE was town was created, as he very quickly jumped in between three different targets, with only one of them being somewhat original. What puts me off about this, is how quick of a turn-around it was and how badly it reeked of wanting to appease the people out for his blood. First, VE didn't defend his policy lynch on Grush, he just jumped to accusing other people after being accused. As well, VE didn't just accuse one person and attempt to get them lynched, he made a big show of jumping in-between three different targets and saying that he thought all of them were scum. This looks a lot like he was trying to go, "Hey, look at me! I'm scumhunting!", especially when contrasted with his play earlier. So, it looks as though the sudden spurt in apparent scum hunting and effort was made to avoid pressure, which makes sense, since after Day 1 the pressure dropped and so did the contributions from VE.

After Day 1, the "scumhunting effort" from VE stopped. His play from then on has consisted of sheeping the lynch sentiment against myself and Misder while adding nothing of value to the cases against either of us. As pointed out by others, VE has been making promises of contribution, but has not been keeping them. Notably, making a case against either myself or Misder. As well, he failed to comment on either my case against BC or BC's defense and case against me while BC was alive. VE makes this post:
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On August 23 2012 16:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Before I comment on your case Wiggles, what do you think of Dirkzor? You derped around and kept your vote on me all day while a townie got lynched, and today you don't even mention the counterwagon except as a footnote in your case on someone else. Do you think Dirkzor is town?

Saying he will comment on my case. However, even though he was in the thread for the next two or so hours, he never comments directly on the case either by myself or BC, even though he has clearly read them. He avoids taking a side in the conflict between us, which supports VE's general play this game of laying low and avoiding attention, especially if his team was already planning on using their shot on BC.

After BC dies, VE comes back and uses the death of BC to put a vote on me. However, read the post where he did so:
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On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles

In this post, VE does not make mention of BC having a good case, or even agreeing with the case BC made against me. Instead he insinuates that the death of BC was a result of trying to get me lynched, and uses the fact that BC has flipped town as a point for people to sheep to in support of him. The point of this post isn't to say that BC made a good case and town should lynch for it, it's to try to manipulate people into voting me because BC wanted to. It relies on an appeal to authority and the assumption that because BC was town, he was correct. Coming from a player with as much experience as VE, this isn't a simple mistake in logic. It's an attempt to cash in on an emotional response to BC dying and flipping town to try to push a mislynch.

As for supporting meta, VE usually plays somewhat aggressively and is very outspoken, to the point where he is often lynched early into the game as he forces focus and attention towards himself. This is markedly different from how he has been playing this game, where he has played very passively and avoided attention. This difference could be explained with role considerations giving VE a reason to act as he is, but VE is not playing in a way that he is contributing to the town while maintaining a low profile, he is instead playing in a way that he only does enough to keep people off his back before sinking into passivity again.

Altogether, this makes him scum.

I like. Still confused why scum would shoot their own scumbuddy (at least the way Toad did it), but I can roll with this.
##Vote: VisceraEyes



all the while he has been actively lurking (Still doesn't have a second page on his filter)
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August 28 2012 13:44 GMT
#1539
On August 28 2012 22:24 Dirkzor wrote:
I think all night actions are random. Something fishy is up with the night actions in some way since my action night 1 didn't really do what it was supposed to do.

Yes i just claimed to have night actions O_o


I think claiming a power is pretty safe in this game lol
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August 28 2012 15:09 GMT
#1543
I think Kurumi's old power is the most likely action to be honest...
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August 28 2012 15:19 GMT
#1546
On August 29 2012 00:14 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 28 2012 23:59 JingleHell wrote:
Maybe people's powers all went batshit when Giovanni died and took his gym badge with him. We're all refusing to obey our trainers.

We have trainers? NONSENSE HARRY


GO CATTERPIE USE STRING SHOT!
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August 28 2012 15:21 GMT
#1547
On August 29 2012 00:18 Dirkzor wrote:
Kurumi and drazark can you just explain the freaking role already?? I'm tired of these hints and shit..

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On August 28 2012 22:44 Drazerk wrote:
On August 28 2012 21:51 Dirkzor wrote:
Okay drazark. Lets crank up the activity. I know its night and all but we have to start somewhere.

You have mentioned Misder more then once and that we should kill him. You never said why or mentioned any case on him. Explain to my why you think he is scum.


I don't mention cases generally since I demand people read the thread and when the cases are in place its obvious I've read them and based my opinions from them its rarely my job to convince people to join a bandwagon I simply jump up and down and shout at people until they vote for who I want.


It looks like he knows more than us (This post stuck out for me especially)

On August 25 2012 04:37 Misder wrote:
Really, this lynch is between 3 townies. This is ridiculous.



he has been jumping on bandwagons (Latest one)

On August 28 2012 05:50 Misder wrote:
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On August 28 2012 05:10 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On August 28 2012 04:24 Mementoss wrote:
On August 28 2012 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 28 2012 04:10 BioSC wrote:
Whelp. As it turns out, MLG weekend + TI2 Weekend plus lots of procrastinated homework means one inactive Bio. Combine that with a general "woe is me" about my reads in general makes it hard to put forth the effort. Well, here we go again.

My 2 choices are misder or VE. Misder for his active lurking + the play around the time of yesterday's lynch.

VE, because the case by HiroPro
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On August 27 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote:
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On August 27 2012 07:34 Mementoss wrote:
On August 27 2012 07:31 HiroPro wrote:
hm, wiggles sounds legitimately annoyed. Can't decide whether to kill biosc or misder, drrrr.

##Unvote


What are your thoughts on VE /dirkzor


I haven't really read much since Toad died, so fresh look and all lol.

Dirkzor I think is town. His early play I think was mostly just because of how much pressure he was under from BC and I think he's actually trying to contribute.

I think VE is scum now for a couple of reasons.

First, the thing with grush still strikes me as really uncharacteristic of town VE. VE is someone who throws out policy lynches as town, but it's almost always "if we have no strong scum reads, we should lynch a lurker". For him to push a policy lynch on a person for their play in other games is just mind-boggling. VE has always emphasized that there is no such thing as an "useless townie" because they're still a member of town to count against the mafia wincon, yet now his views have suddenly flipped. If you look at the LVI postgame (the last game with VE and grush in it), there's nothing to suggest that VE was unduly mad. Yes, I know he made some comment pregame about how grush would likely just lurk and troll, but at least before VE pushed the policy lynch, grush had seemed ok in activity and was at least responding to others.

Next looking at the whole Wiggles-BC feud: Beforehand VE had said that he thought Wiggles was scum. But then when the cases come out, literally the only thing VE has to say about those two cases is a mild dislike of one of BC's points. Otherwise he just says afterward " BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched" and "Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.". That doesn't look like VE analyzing someone's play and reaching a conclusion based on that. It looks like him making a preconceived judgement and fitting what happens around it.

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On August 23 2012 17:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why does BC keep referencing Bugs' post as if Bugs is accusing Wiggles? He's said it twice I think now, and I don't think Bugs was accusing Wiggles at all.


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On August 23 2012 18:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
But it won't be - Bugs is alive to say "no guy, I think Wiggles is town (as my post indicates), LTR"

That's my point - it won't be Bugs' fault at all.


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On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles


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On August 24 2012 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:11 grush57 wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:09 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles

Nah, Wiggles attacking bc is a null tell in my opinion. Look at the timing of this hit, if they wanted to kill bc they would do it faster, it smells like a frame to me.

Yeah I considered that aswell, but wiggles has been scummy HMMMMMMMMMMMM idk man

also biosc where u been at man!

Wiggles scummy ? He seems the only person devoting his time to this game. Some guys dont have enough time , yadda yadda. Although his theory on the lynch sounds wrong... Well I think Dirk is scum based on one post... I did not vote him because of my doubts (his points about viscera were good) it is hard to reread the thread on the phone, eh.


Is this a joke? First of all, Wiggles posted like ONE time D1, and that was to vote me and DISAPPEAR. He had NO inclination to affect the lynch yesterday and, as Bugs and Wiggles will tell you, scum seemed to be perfectly content with the way the wagons were going too.

Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.

In what way is Wiggles "devoting his time to this game"?

This is strikingly similar to his play in LV - vote, disappear, return to build a case, vote, disappear. I'm voting Mr.Wiggles because I think he's scum. I hope you guys will join me.


Then, the amount of times VE promises thoughts and reads but then when he comes back has pretty much nothing useful to say.

I know someone is going to bring up the shot done by Toad, but frankly I think it could just be separation. Toad knew it was only 0.5 KP and not going to pose a threat to VE actually dying.

Maybe I'm being an idiot right now in ignoring BC lol, but it's not like I've been doing anything this game for some time now.

##Vote VisceraEyes


Makes sense to me.

And the more I go through cases and stuff, the less confident I am about them. Great.

Tell you what. I'm going to go sheep the veteran flipped townie. My reads are shit and I know it.

##Vote Wiggles

Ahahahahahahahaha


Now that your here who do you think are scum.

VE is scum.

Day 1 he came out posting about policy lynching Grush. His reasons were not based on alignment. He put the onus of scumhunting onto other people, telling them it was their responsibility to convince him to lynch someone other than grush. Not convince him that their targets were scummier than grush, because his policy lynch wasn't based on grush being scummy, just that it would be better to try to lynch scum than a random person.

After he was rightfully called out on his posting, VE pulled a 180. Some kind of sentiment that VE was town was created, as he very quickly jumped in between three different targets, with only one of them being somewhat original. What puts me off about this, is how quick of a turn-around it was and how badly it reeked of wanting to appease the people out for his blood. First, VE didn't defend his policy lynch on Grush, he just jumped to accusing other people after being accused. As well, VE didn't just accuse one person and attempt to get them lynched, he made a big show of jumping in-between three different targets and saying that he thought all of them were scum. This looks a lot like he was trying to go, "Hey, look at me! I'm scumhunting!", especially when contrasted with his play earlier. So, it looks as though the sudden spurt in apparent scum hunting and effort was made to avoid pressure, which makes sense, since after Day 1 the pressure dropped and so did the contributions from VE.

After Day 1, the "scumhunting effort" from VE stopped. His play from then on has consisted of sheeping the lynch sentiment against myself and Misder while adding nothing of value to the cases against either of us. As pointed out by others, VE has been making promises of contribution, but has not been keeping them. Notably, making a case against either myself or Misder. As well, he failed to comment on either my case against BC or BC's defense and case against me while BC was alive. VE makes this post:
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On August 23 2012 16:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Before I comment on your case Wiggles, what do you think of Dirkzor? You derped around and kept your vote on me all day while a townie got lynched, and today you don't even mention the counterwagon except as a footnote in your case on someone else. Do you think Dirkzor is town?

Saying he will comment on my case. However, even though he was in the thread for the next two or so hours, he never comments directly on the case either by myself or BC, even though he has clearly read them. He avoids taking a side in the conflict between us, which supports VE's general play this game of laying low and avoiding attention, especially if his team was already planning on using their shot on BC.

After BC dies, VE comes back and uses the death of BC to put a vote on me. However, read the post where he did so:
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On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles

In this post, VE does not make mention of BC having a good case, or even agreeing with the case BC made against me. Instead he insinuates that the death of BC was a result of trying to get me lynched, and uses the fact that BC has flipped town as a point for people to sheep to in support of him. The point of this post isn't to say that BC made a good case and town should lynch for it, it's to try to manipulate people into voting me because BC wanted to. It relies on an appeal to authority and the assumption that because BC was town, he was correct. Coming from a player with as much experience as VE, this isn't a simple mistake in logic. It's an attempt to cash in on an emotional response to BC dying and flipping town to try to push a mislynch.

As for supporting meta, VE usually plays somewhat aggressively and is very outspoken, to the point where he is often lynched early into the game as he forces focus and attention towards himself. This is markedly different from how he has been playing this game, where he has played very passively and avoided attention. This difference could be explained with role considerations giving VE a reason to act as he is, but VE is not playing in a way that he is contributing to the town while maintaining a low profile, he is instead playing in a way that he only does enough to keep people off his back before sinking into passivity again.

Altogether, this makes him scum.

I like. Still confused why scum would shoot their own scumbuddy (at least the way Toad did it), but I can roll with this.
##Vote: VisceraEyes



all the while he has been actively lurking (Still doesn't have a second page on his filter)


Bolded part: then you play a bad townie. If you think you are right it is your duty to try to convince people to vote like you. If you had just "jumped up and down" to do so it would MAYBE have been ok. But you didn't.

Your way of doing things is scummy.


Once again I was asleep you can't blame me that no one was active when I was
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 15:25 GMT
#1549
On August 29 2012 00:22 Kurumi wrote:
Dirkzor:
My power as Caterpie was delaying any action by one cycle.
<3


You also got name checks back from any non super effective type who visited you when you evolved
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August 28 2012 15:29 GMT
#1551
On August 29 2012 00:27 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 29 2012 00:25 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 00:22 Kurumi wrote:
Dirkzor:
My power as Caterpie was delaying any action by one cycle.
<3


You also got name checks back from any non super effective type who visited you when you evolved

Nobody touched me, life is boring as a Caterpie!


Awww no mass VT laser in the first 5 seconds of being a butterfree
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August 28 2012 15:34 GMT
#1553
On August 29 2012 00:31 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 29 2012 00:29 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 00:27 Kurumi wrote:
On August 29 2012 00:25 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 00:22 Kurumi wrote:
Dirkzor:
My power as Caterpie was delaying any action by one cycle.
<3


You also got name checks back from any non super effective type who visited you when you evolved

Nobody touched me, life is boring as a Caterpie!


Awww no mass VT laser in the first 5 seconds of being a butterfree

Ah whatever! Too bad we have no listcheck dts in this game, they are so fun...


To be fair your role sort of becomes a list check depending on how you use it
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August 28 2012 15:57 GMT
#1555
On August 29 2012 00:53 Dirkzor wrote:
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On August 29 2012 00:22 Kurumi wrote:
Dirkzor:
My power as Caterpie was delaying any action by one cycle.
<3

What up? Why did 5 (?) people die night1 then?


They have to target him...
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 16:27 GMT
#1559
A lightning rod role might exist now that I think about it I know I had one set up based on if I got an electric type

Why it didn't effect everyone (As evident by the fact people still died) I don't understand yet
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 16:30 GMT
#1561
With the amount of people complaining about roles being fucked with I don't think Mattchew is lying about last night tbh
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August 28 2012 16:36 GMT
#1563
On August 29 2012 01:32 JingleHell wrote:
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On August 29 2012 01:30 Drazerk wrote:
With the amount of people complaining about roles being fucked with I don't think Mattchew is lying about last night tbh


I don't particularly either, was just pointing out that we shouldn't exclude it as a possibility. I've also mentioned my bizarre gym badge idea (Giovanni WAS part of Toad's role, and we didn't see that part of the PM after all), as well as the possibility of extended confusion.


Badges only effect traded pokemon

this would mean the following evolution lines -

Town Ekins
Town Oddish
Town Mankey
Town Growlife
Town Syther
Town Electrabuzz

Scum Sandrew
Scum Vulpix
Scum Belsprout
Scum Magmar
Scum Pinsir
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August 28 2012 16:37 GMT
#1564
Wait I forgot Meowth lol
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 16:42 GMT
#1565
add these regardless of alignment -

Mr. Mime
Nidoran (F)
Nidoran
Lickitung
Jynx
Farfetch'd
Seel
Electrode
Tangela
Abra
Nidoran (M)
Nidorino
Slowbro
Poliwhirl
Spearow
Ponyta
Raichu
Venonat

Now that I think about it almost all pokemon would have been effected by a gym badge effect T_T
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August 28 2012 16:48 GMT
#1570
On August 29 2012 01:44 JingleHell wrote:
I know badges only affect traded pokemon as a rule, but my whole point is we don't know what's up with the Giovanni thing, and it's dangerous to make assumptions. It could be purely a GF type role flavor, it could be badge related, we don't know.

What we do know is that powers seem vaguely unreliable lately, whether that's due to interference from scum or some external mechanic we're not aware of.



Mewtwo also died which adds even more possibilities :S
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August 28 2012 16:48 GMT
#1571
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?


If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon
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August 28 2012 17:02 GMT
#1573
On August 29 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote:
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On August 29 2012 01:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?


If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon
Was this a first generation rule? I rememeber a few evolutions were only possible after trades, but nothing about badges.



Its why you actually get badges in the games
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 17:02 GMT
#1574
Oh and to learn surf / cut I guess
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August 28 2012 17:05 GMT
#1577
On August 29 2012 02:03 JingleHell wrote:
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On August 29 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?


If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon
Was this a first generation rule? I rememeber a few evolutions were only possible after trades, but nothing about badges.



Yes, it's just that the levels on the badges were absurd, so you were really unlikely to have trouble with it unless you got something WAY the fuck above your level passed to you, and then actually tried to use it, which would have just screwed the rest of your pokemon over.


In first generation you only need to use Blastoise (Red / Blue) or Nidoking + Zapdos (For yellow) to beat the entire game (HM slaves excluded)
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 17:05 GMT
#1578
On August 29 2012 02:03 JingleHell wrote:
Actually, IIRC, aside from HMs and traded pokemon, there was no other use for badges first gen, all the crazy stuff came later, didn't it?


There is no other use for badges even in fifth gen other than story triggers
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August 28 2012 17:08 GMT
#1580
ok they gave stat boosts up until 3rd generation
In D/P you can't buy revives until you have 4 badges
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August 28 2012 17:10 GMT
#1583
On August 29 2012 02:08 Dirkzor wrote:
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On August 29 2012 01:46 JingleHell wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:29 JingleHell wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:26 Dirkzor wrote:
So your conclusion is that Mattchew is lying?


My conclusion is that it's possible, and comes with the other possibilities that also came to mind. Why are you trying to turn me saying "plausible" into me saying "absolutely"?


I didn't. I asked if I had understood what you wrote correctly. Why are you trying to make it sound like I'm putting words in your mouth? (See what I did there?)

Anyway I believe Mattchew hit trying to kill wiggles and me as he said he was. Doesn't make him town though. Just makes him not a liar.


I'm not putting words in your mouth. Your "clarification" ignored so much of what I said as to cease being paraphrasing, and start being a blatant misquotation.

Why are you being so defensive-aggresive about this? I just wanted to know if I understood your post correctly (that you thought Mattchew was lying). Then you go all apeshit on me.



That didn't happen 0.o
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 17:30 GMT
#1588
How could anyone other than Mattchew (Or his scum team if he is scum) possibly know if he is lying or not?

Answer me that Dirk
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August 28 2012 17:37 GMT
#1589
Going out for a while I should be back before deadline
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 20:57 GMT
#1616
Probably a bad idea to try and figure out Kenpachi...
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August 28 2012 21:12 GMT
#1627
Dragonite is the only dragon pokemon in this generation...
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August 28 2012 21:22 GMT
#1635
On August 29 2012 06:20 grush57 wrote:
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On August 29 2012 06:10 JingleHell wrote:
Oh look, Misder, who Grush tried to sheep on while not coming anywhere near his town meta was scum. Kill Grush with fire.

##Vote Grush


OMG HE VOTED A SCUM, THEREFORE SCUM.
JINGLEHELL LOGIC YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


lol the active lurker is as strong as Misder
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 21:25 GMT
#1639
Actually...

We haven't seen scum KP in a while now have we?
Drazerk
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August 28 2012 21:36 GMT
#1645
Can people please stop active lurking...
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August 29 2012 07:35 GMT
#1658
On August 29 2012 06:40 HiroPro wrote:
the mafia team kp probably changes flavor/type depending on who carries it out.


If thats true Mattchew must be scum which seems unlikely at this point (Although I personally think that defence he keeps quoting is useless and I'm not sure what people see in it but hey what do I know)
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August 29 2012 08:39 GMT
#1660
On August 29 2012 17:16 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 29 2012 11:11 Mattchew wrote:
On August 29 2012 10:56 Zephirdd wrote:
On August 29 2012 10:51 austinmcc wrote:
Odd, because I got a message that I took a little damage. That would mean I either got hit with something heavy or maybe an ineffective match between us so less protection?


I'd assume the following may have happened:
1. something disrupted my action and it didn't protect you(like, for instance, when mattchew said to shoot someone but it hit someone else)
2. I am not very effective against you, and that means I didn't protect you for the whole 1.0kp, which would mean you take a smaller percentage of damage
3. The attack did more than 1.0kp of damage and you took only a part of it
4. A combination of 2 and 3

what pokemon are you?

He is a Normal-type


So a normal typed veteran with medic abilities... hmmm.... I really can't think of what possible pokemon this could be...

Seriously Kurumi you pretty much outed the pokemon
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August 29 2012 09:11 GMT
#1662
On August 29 2012 17:51 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 29 2012 17:39 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 17:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:11 Mattchew wrote:
On August 29 2012 10:56 Zephirdd wrote:
On August 29 2012 10:51 austinmcc wrote:
Odd, because I got a message that I took a little damage. That would mean I either got hit with something heavy or maybe an ineffective match between us so less protection?


I'd assume the following may have happened:
1. something disrupted my action and it didn't protect you(like, for instance, when mattchew said to shoot someone but it hit someone else)
2. I am not very effective against you, and that means I didn't protect you for the whole 1.0kp, which would mean you take a smaller percentage of damage
3. The attack did more than 1.0kp of damage and you took only a part of it
4. A combination of 2 and 3

what pokemon are you?

He is a Normal-type


So a normal typed veteran with medic abilities... hmmm.... I really can't think of what possible pokemon this could be...

Seriously Kurumi you pretty much outed the pokemon

It ain't easy being green~


You're the guy controlling who will be green
Drazerk
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August 29 2012 11:01 GMT
#1664
From my blissey with 707 hp (Its not for competitive battles)

Softboiled
Substitute
Double team
Toxic

Whats the bet on 175HP substitutes while being unhitable without the evasion claus in place all the while using Toxic to kill any non steel types
Drazerk
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August 29 2012 13:13 GMT
#1665
come on guys... TALK

YOU PROMISED WE WOULDN'T HAVE A REPEAT OF LAST CYCLE
Drazerk
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August 29 2012 16:30 GMT
#1667
Ok you all can't possibly be playing guild wars / WoW so talk!

I prefer grush over Bio but that is probably because grush is more in your face annoying rather than keeping under the radar

Drazerk
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August 29 2012 17:13 GMT
#1672
What is your ability? (You've already claimed psyduck which means Kurumi can shoot you in the face)
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August 29 2012 17:47 GMT
#1679
Wait that means electrabuzz / Zapdos / Jolteon shot Heist
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August 29 2012 17:59 GMT
#1681
Huh I never did give butterfree a flying attack...

Me and JH discussed almost every possible reason as to why the night actions during N2 was screwed with last night the short answer is we can't know until someone steps forward or we kill the person who screwed with it.

As for scum KP the easy answer could be they aren't killing anyone?

Be it via roleblock / medic protects / veteran abilities we simply don't know but that seems like the more logical solution rather than Hiro's solution which means Mattchew is 100% scum. I also threw around the idea the only KP scum have is the KP the players started with, that still might be the case for all we know.
Drazerk
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August 29 2012 18:00 GMT
#1683
On August 30 2012 02:59 Mattchew wrote:
ok I am voting biosc until he tells me who he targeted each night with his ability. I really hope the rest of you will to

##vote biosc


Care to explain?
Drazerk
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August 29 2012 18:01 GMT
#1685
On August 30 2012 03:00 Mattchew wrote:
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On August 30 2012 03:00 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2012 02:59 Mattchew wrote:
ok I am voting biosc until he tells me who he targeted each night with his ability. I really hope the rest of you will to

##vote biosc


Care to explain?

i would rather force him to answer. then explain


Fair enough
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August 30 2012 04:36 GMT
#1730
Kurumi is going to have a field day tomorrow...
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August 30 2012 09:03 GMT
#1731
Why do I kill activity when ever I'm around
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August 30 2012 10:49 GMT
#1732
Once again 6 hours during the day where no one speaks T_T
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August 30 2012 11:53 GMT
#1733
How about we discuss this then why does bio's role make him town I'm sorry I just don't see how that works?

I thought we settled this two PTPs ago... Role != Alignment

and a final note - If LoTr mafia taught me anything... always kill the fucking medics *Cough*

Wait that last line only applies to me...
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#1737
So?

I'd use my ability pro town and once again there is nothing town like about throwing your team under a bus. I LOVE pissing off my own scum team its just fun and makes you look more townie.
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August 30 2012 13:16 GMT
#1741
Dunno if scum think they can control the lynch or the VT laser it really doesn't matter what they target you with
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August 30 2012 13:23 GMT
#1744
On August 30 2012 22:19 Mattchew wrote:
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On August 30 2012 22:16 Drazerk wrote:
Dunno if scum think they can control the lynch or the VT laser it really doesn't matter what they target you with

have you claimed?


Read the thread
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 13:46 GMT
#1749
So what do we have going for us then?

Who are we thinking about lynching and why?

How long is this TL downtime?
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 13:51 GMT
#1752
I meant the TL downtime that is happening in 10 minutes
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 13:54 GMT
#1754
The warning at the top of the page is purposely misspelled ^^
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August 30 2012 13:58 GMT
#1757
On August 30 2012 22:57 Mattchew wrote:
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On August 30 2012 22:54 Drazerk wrote:
The warning at the top of the page is purposely misspelled ^^

nah dude, its a troll witch doctor taking down the site, so its a ward


Who plays witch doctor 0.o
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 15:37 GMT
#1758
and we are back in buisness
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 17:08 GMT
#1762
Ok guys wanting austin to claim here is one for you -

Do you think Kurumi is town?

Do you think Kurumi is responsible?
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 17:33 GMT
#1766
On August 31 2012 02:31 Mattchew wrote:
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On August 31 2012 02:08 Drazerk wrote:
Ok guys wanting austin to claim here is one for you -

Do you think Kurumi is town?

Do you think Kurumi is responsible?

btw, at this point i am fairly confident that we can just lynch our way to victory and our powers wont be absolutely necessary


Probably but I am overly paranoid at the later stages of themed games do you want a repeat of what happened with me at Holy Roman? (That was amazing for me though )
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 17:34 GMT
#1767
On August 31 2012 02:28 Mattchew wrote:
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On August 31 2012 02:08 Drazerk wrote:
Ok guys wanting austin to claim here is one for you -

Do you think Kurumi is town?

Do you think Kurumi is responsible?

So kurumi can name a pokemon and make them VT?


And yes thats how the ability works if the mods haven't touched it too much since I last saw it
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 17:41 GMT
#1769
Wait where is Kurumi?

Its unlike him not to spam...
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 17:54 GMT
#1772
On August 31 2012 02:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On August 31 2012 02:39 BioSC wrote:
Sorry... I'm not lying. I did protect those guys, and nowhere does it say in my PM that people are notified of recieving a shield. I honestly just picked people who were making sense at the time to protect.

I didn't go awol either... Just my sleeping schedule is all fucked up atm.

Isn't Jinglehell saying he was notified he received a shield though?

Also, no check Night 1, Draitini Night 2, Pikachu Night 3.


MAGIC!
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 17:56 GMT
#1773
Kurumi is also lynch / KP immune while a metapod
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 18:39 GMT
#1780
TL mafia - where everyone has the same name
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 18:47 GMT
#1785
Wait how did someone manage to possibly find the flavour to make snorlax a medic?

I say that and we have a hitmonlee who wields key blades...

I honestly prefer a Grush lynch over Wiggles
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#1789
No no but I had to go deep into the catacombs of pokemon to find a way for the VT laser to be relevant to existing lore
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#1793
On August 31 2012 04:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Draz, what do you think of Hiro?


Very similiar posting style to me, he does seem to always be present but its a null tell in the same way Kenpachi is (We really need to deal with him at some point)

This is interesting though -

On August 29 2012 13:09 HiroPro wrote:
A Snorlax uses Body Slam (1 KP) at night on Ditto. Does transform reflect the damage back onto Snorlax?

Drazerk
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August 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#1794
FUCKING NINJA'D
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 19:29 GMT
#1795
So Hiro

Body slam?
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 19:32 GMT
#1797
Just checking
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 20:40 GMT
#1799
I was kinda hoping for a lot more discussion on people rather than roles but meh I'm probably the reason for that more than anything.

##Vote: Mr. Wiggles

The amount of information it confirms is pretty god like to be honest and its really the only wagon this cycle meaning at this point I may as well be voting myself for the good it will do T_T

Drazerk
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August 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#1803
I call every lynch a wagon check the 20+ games I've played T_T
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 20:54 GMT
#1804
As for information -

If he flips town we have confirm his checks
if he flips scum we have to assess his checks if he is actually a DT
if he flips scum but not a DT we still have to assess his checks but this time it doesn't matter too much since the two pokemon he used was already publicly announced so yeah...
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 20:57 GMT
#1806
Final days in a themed game especially when I broke the last themed game I played in?

I can see that
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 21:12 GMT
#1812
Why did Wiggles not claim my role earlier if he knew what it was...

Seriously did he actually care about the game?
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 21:13 GMT
#1813
Oh yeah I'm Ivysaur and I'm a bus driver with some other fun stuff
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 21:50 GMT
#1815
Nothing I don't have it yet (Probably venasaur's ability)

Bugs killed himself by hitting me when I had bussed him because I didn't think anyone would shoot at bugs (Well someone shot at me and then killed bugs but its more likely bugs killed himself since his KP never popping up (Then again no one's ability popped up so who knows))

The bus was a 1 time the last ability I have left is sleep powder which is a role block to the first person who visits me including medics / DTs etc which go in order of a ranking list Dec won't tell me but he assures me exists...
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 22:00 GMT
#1817
Nothing to do with me lol
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August 30 2012 22:41 GMT
#1819
I vote for just killing everyone wiggles didn't confirm seems quicker and simpler tbh
Drazerk
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August 30 2012 22:43 GMT
#1820
Actually GF roles scrap that idea T_T
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August 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#1824
On August 31 2012 07:45 JingleHell wrote:
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On August 31 2012 07:43 Drazerk wrote:
Actually GF roles scrap that idea T_T


I was kind of operating under the assumption that Giovanni was at least partially a GF role, given the Team Rocket flavor...


S+B was also a GF role I wouldn't put it past people to make a ton of them to mess with us
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 09:03 GMT
#1838
JH has always reacted violently when we suspect him of something (hell I mentioned him in passing and he freaked out and role claimed)
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 12:03 GMT
#1839
KURUMI WHERE ARE YOU
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August 31 2012 14:25 GMT
#1841
On August 31 2012 23:23 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 31 2012 21:03 Drazerk wrote:
KURUMI WHERE ARE YOU

I WAS CAMPING WHAT'S GOING ON


YAY I HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO WHILE THE AMERICANS SLEEP!
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 14:59 GMT
#1843
On August 31 2012 23:51 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 23:25 Drazerk wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:23 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 21:03 Drazerk wrote:
KURUMI WHERE ARE YOU

I WAS CAMPING WHAT'S GOING ON


YAY I HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO WHILE THE AMERICANS SLEEP!

WHO I SHOULD ZAP


USE ABILITY 1 FIRST REGARDLESS OF SITUATION

USE ABILITY 2 IF YOU WANT TO BE A DICK

USE ABILITY 3 WHEN YOU ARE CERTAIN
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August 31 2012 15:18 GMT
#1846
On September 01 2012 00:16 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 23:59 Drazerk wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:51 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:25 Drazerk wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:23 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 21:03 Drazerk wrote:
KURUMI WHERE ARE YOU

I WAS CAMPING WHAT'S GOING ON


YAY I HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO WHILE THE AMERICANS SLEEP!

WHO I SHOULD ZAP


USE ABILITY 1 FIRST REGARDLESS OF SITUATION

USE ABILITY 2 IF YOU WANT TO BE A DICK

USE ABILITY 3 WHEN YOU ARE CERTAIN

I WANT TO BE A BUTTERFREE RIGHT NOW


FEW MORE HOURS!
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 16:39 GMT
#1848
On September 01 2012 00:23 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:18 Drazerk wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:59 Drazerk wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:51 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:25 Drazerk wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:23 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 21:03 Drazerk wrote:
KURUMI WHERE ARE YOU

I WAS CAMPING WHAT'S GOING ON


YAY I HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO WHILE THE AMERICANS SLEEP!

WHO I SHOULD ZAP


USE ABILITY 1 FIRST REGARDLESS OF SITUATION

USE ABILITY 2 IF YOU WANT TO BE A DICK

USE ABILITY 3 WHEN YOU ARE CERTAIN

I WANT TO BE A BUTTERFREE RIGHT NOW


FEW MORE HOURS!

I AM GOING TO LOBOTOMIZE GRUSH FO SURE


If I hadn't of told you about the down sides would you have used harden?
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August 31 2012 17:18 GMT
#1851
On September 01 2012 02:08 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:23 Kurumi wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:18 Drazerk wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:59 Drazerk wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:51 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:25 Drazerk wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:23 Kurumi wrote:
On August 31 2012 21:03 Drazerk wrote:
KURUMI WHERE ARE YOU

I WAS CAMPING WHAT'S GOING ON


YAY I HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO WHILE THE AMERICANS SLEEP!

WHO I SHOULD ZAP


USE ABILITY 1 FIRST REGARDLESS OF SITUATION

USE ABILITY 2 IF YOU WANT TO BE A DICK

USE ABILITY 3 WHEN YOU ARE CERTAIN

I WANT TO BE A BUTTERFREE RIGHT NOW


FEW MORE HOURS!

I AM GOING TO LOBOTOMIZE GRUSH FO SURE


Is that actually physically possible?


Anything is possible when you're a butterfree and not a weak ass Catterpie

I'm on a Ponyta
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August 31 2012 19:19 GMT
#1855
You may as well claim before you don't have the role at all lol Kurumi
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 19:28 GMT
#1862
On September 01 2012 04:26 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 04:24 HiroPro wrote:
On September 01 2012 04:24 Kurumi wrote:
On September 01 2012 04:22 HiroPro wrote:
If Kurumi decides to lobotomize me, nothing I can do about it.

Who should die after grush?


Kenpachi should die first.

He claimed Snorlax, right?


That he did
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August 31 2012 19:32 GMT
#1866
Maybe its just me but I don't understand why you'd ever risk yourself to protect a useless lurker like Misder
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August 31 2012 19:36 GMT
#1868
On September 01 2012 04:34 Kurumi wrote:
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On September 01 2012 04:32 Drazerk wrote:
Maybe its just me but I don't understand why you'd ever risk yourself to protect a useless lurker like Misder

OR Misder to protect him.


huh?

Misder was a Ditto?
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August 31 2012 19:51 GMT
#1870
On September 01 2012 04:50 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 04:36 Drazerk wrote:
On September 01 2012 04:34 Kurumi wrote:
On September 01 2012 04:32 Drazerk wrote:
Maybe its just me but I don't understand why you'd ever risk yourself to protect a useless lurker like Misder

OR Misder to protect him.


huh?

Misder was a Ditto?

no I mean like in-thread


Oh right
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 19:56 GMT
#1872
Kenpachi...
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August 31 2012 20:05 GMT
#1875
You say an hour before the deadline with two other medics in play.
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August 31 2012 20:15 GMT
#1877
Blinks save the day
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August 31 2012 20:15 GMT
#1878
lol wrong thread
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August 31 2012 20:15 GMT
#1879
And we haven't ruled out Zeph yet
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August 31 2012 20:17 GMT
#1880
Also I have no fucking clue what slowpoke is but as a water pokemon its probably a medic
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August 31 2012 20:57 GMT
#1884
Hiro really doesn't want to claim lol
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August 31 2012 21:08 GMT
#1889
Kurumi I want you to thank me for everything I have ever done for you
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August 31 2012 21:08 GMT
#1891
Also where was the Hiro shot?
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August 31 2012 21:14 GMT
#1895
On September 01 2012 06:09 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 06:08 Drazerk wrote:
Kurumi I want you to thank me for everything I have ever done for you

thank you, I love you


do you still have all three abilities and how nerfed is ability 3?
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 21:16 GMT
#1898
Its a night ability so no and it can kill you if you use it because its true RNG
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August 31 2012 21:17 GMT
#1899
Might be worth using on Jingle to be honest

If he has KP it'll pop up
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 21:20 GMT
#1901
The devolution beam effected pokemon that didn't actually have previous forms when I sent it in so you might want to check that and if they changed that you really want to find out if it effects pokemon that have unevolved forms in the 2nd - 4th gen (EG pichu)

We don't want you firing it and then finding out its been changed to a point it doesn't work meaning you can't instead use ability 1 or 2
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 21:21 GMT
#1902
I didn't use my role block ability so Hiro is either lying or someone else is lying about their ability
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August 31 2012 21:23 GMT
#1903
Grush hasn't claimed yet right?
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August 31 2012 21:25 GMT
#1907
On September 01 2012 06:23 Kurumi wrote:
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On September 01 2012 06:20 Drazerk wrote:
The devolution beam effected pokemon that didn't actually have previous forms when I sent it in so you might want to check that and if they changed that you really want to find out if it effects pokemon that have unevolved forms in the 2nd - 4th gen (EG pichu)

We don't want you firing it and then finding out its been changed to a point it doesn't work meaning you can't instead use ability 1 or 2

1 ability per cycle, eh? Kenpachi claimed snorlax the medic right?
I can devolve him.


Check with the hosts about your ability
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August 31 2012 21:28 GMT
#1908
Also Dragonite?

new abilities?

I really doubt your a Hider anymore
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August 31 2012 21:31 GMT
#1910
You can spam it so its technically endless possibilities
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August 31 2012 21:32 GMT
#1912
Really?

Damn that got nerfed then
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August 31 2012 21:36 GMT
#1915
Looks good
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August 31 2012 21:38 GMT
#1917
Well that explains the roleblock on Hiro

Now to look at Kenpachi / Zeph
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August 31 2012 21:55 GMT
#1922
Name check
Forces an attack on a completely random player (Can hit Kurumi and the guy who uses the attack)
VT laser beam
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August 31 2012 21:57 GMT
#1924
Also it totally exists in pokemon -

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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August 31 2012 22:02 GMT
#1925
Once again

Do I make cool roles or do I make cool roles?
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August 31 2012 22:09 GMT
#1927
Moltres was very important to the first season anime story the other two not so much
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August 31 2012 22:13 GMT
#1929
People got lazy when making roles?
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August 31 2012 22:17 GMT
#1931
On September 01 2012 07:17 Kurumi wrote:
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On September 01 2012 07:13 Drazerk wrote:
People got lazy when making roles?

I have no idea, I wasn't asked to give an evolution for Chansey... because it doesn't evolve in Gen I...
Should I check if grush is Shellder?


Probably wise
Drazerk
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#1933
On September 01 2012 07:26 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On September 01 2012 07:17 Kurumi wrote:
On September 01 2012 07:13 Drazerk wrote:
People got lazy when making roles?

I have no idea, I wasn't asked to give an evolution for Chansey... because it doesn't evolve in Gen I...
Should I check if grush is Shellder?


Probably wise

Nah, I'd rather lynch grush and get rid of Kenpachi's role?


Rather you target Hiro tbh
Drazerk
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August 31 2012 22:30 GMT
#1935
I meant with the DT check lol
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August 31 2012 22:33 GMT
#1938
On September 01 2012 07:32 HiroPro wrote:
lol? What do I turn into now? a tail?


An egg
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August 31 2012 22:39 GMT
#1939
Also Kurumi your aware you can list multiple people when you do that right?

So you could of done Kenpachi and Hiro...
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August 31 2012 22:42 GMT
#1941
Remember when I said Kurumi would go crazy today?
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September 01 2012 07:59 GMT
#1944
Well Hiro may be lying about his role or kurumi is an idiot and didn't check his role with the hosts
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September 01 2012 08:09 GMT
#1945
Or his second one popped up and Grush isn't shellder
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September 01 2012 08:39 GMT
#1946
So Austin since everyone else is focusing on other things or busy

What do you think about following wiggle's final words and killing Kenpachi or Hiropro?

What do you think about Grush STILL not role claiming

What do you think of our other medic Zeph?

Do you think we should invoke the RNG gods and have Kurumi force JH to attack someone to see if he is lying about his role?
Drazerk
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September 01 2012 08:45 GMT
#1947
On September 01 2012 07:54 austinmcc wrote:
I know that Zelblade picked a role for Ghastly, but not for any evolutions. So not all pokemon that can evolve may.


People who made roles with evolutions gained 0 knowledge about their evolutions so ghastly may of evolved :S
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September 01 2012 12:20 GMT
#1949
On September 01 2012 20:28 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 16:59 Drazerk wrote:
Well Hiro may be lying about his role or kurumi is an idiot and didn't check his role with the hosts

I have no idea


Can you find out?
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September 01 2012 13:14 GMT
#1954
Think?

Can you make sure?
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September 01 2012 15:49 GMT
#1958
Sometimes I wonder what I did to enjoy this very active town.
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September 01 2012 15:56 GMT
#1959
So if we want to kill Grush we have to use the lynch?

Well isn't that fun...
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September 01 2012 16:07 GMT
#1961
You're aware there is only 1 person who would want to be alive at this stage of the game right grush?

Know who that is?

Scum.
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September 01 2012 16:18 GMT
#1967
In a way he did but we have to wait for mod confirmation on that one
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September 01 2012 16:21 GMT
#1970
On September 02 2012 01:19 Kurumi wrote:
The second devolution beam was counted.


So that would of been grush fucking it up
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September 01 2012 18:02 GMT
#1972
Possibly because most of us want to discuss kenpachi / Hiro at the moment

Now we have found out we HAVE to lynch grush... bit more interesting
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September 01 2012 18:53 GMT
#1973
What is with the roars?
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September 01 2012 18:54 GMT
#1974
I need to stop doing that

Stupid Dota games being so good...
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September 01 2012 19:28 GMT
#1976
Grush fucked up the beam by not claiming thats basically all that happened with that
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September 01 2012 19:32 GMT
#1978
On September 02 2012 04:28 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 04:19 Kenpachi wrote:
so wait, whos the liar? grush or hiro

Grush claimed Geodude so the devolution beam would fail
Hiro claimed Slowpoke and the 2nd beam went through so hes the liar?

The second got triggered. It tells us nothing sadly.


I wonder why that happened...
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September 01 2012 20:03 GMT
#1981
So then

Kenpachi

Hiro

Grush

One of them need to die today and Hiro is the one I trust the least at the moment (Even though grush is really annoying at the moment)
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September 01 2012 21:35 GMT
#1984
We all are...

Its why we are seriously considering him for todays lynch
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September 01 2012 21:52 GMT
#1986
Essentially both Kenpachi and Zeph would of had to protect him... which would of been retarded
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September 01 2012 22:00 GMT
#1989
Hiro fucking with mattchew's shot and fake claiming RB?
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September 01 2012 22:07 GMT
#1992
Yes because I have no faith in this town other than Austin
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September 01 2012 22:16 GMT
#1994
Not what we're arguing here
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September 01 2012 22:29 GMT
#1996
I made catterpie evolve after certain cycles, I evolved on cycle 1 without doing anything (Might of been Clefairy though)

Evolution is weird and probably just linked to what the person had in mind when they made it

As for the delays do you really want to wait another cycle to see if thats the case? that comes forth as incredibly risky

Another thought could be Kenpachi has a super heal and has done all of this to confuse us into lynching Hiro
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September 01 2012 22:32 GMT
#1999
So basically only JH could explain why you survived?

Misdirected the shot onto Zeph who is claiming veteran medic?
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September 01 2012 22:33 GMT
#2001
So he does have a super heal...
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September 01 2012 22:35 GMT
#2003
Yeah but Mattchew is the only town KP and the only thing we have been arguing...
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September 01 2012 22:35 GMT
#2004
why couldn't you have explained this earlier lol
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September 01 2012 22:38 GMT
#2006
So...

1.Kenpachi protected Hiro to confuse us into lynching Hiro

2. Kenpachi is town and protected a scum Hiro because he wants to piss off town and drag us all down with him ALA LOTR Drazerk medic strat

3. They are both scum?

Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 22:40 GMT
#2007
On September 02 2012 07:38 HiroPro wrote:
well I didn't really consider the possibility that he would protect me lol. Seems dumb when he could just let me take the hit.


Considering the lynch was between you two (And maybe grush) it seems logical to delay your death so he can survive another cycle
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 22:49 GMT
#2011
Confirmed town + Perma medic?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 22:58 GMT
#2013
Wiggles was a town DT who had town checks on him?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 23:00 GMT
#2017
I can't tell if people are playing awful / don't care / scum T_T

Any additional thoughts austin?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 23:00 GMT
#2018
Oh it was mattchew rather than Bio?

Ok that was my bad rofl
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 23:04 GMT
#2020
Meh my point still stands

Perma medic is pretty scary for scum even worse than the town confirmed vigi

Then again Mattchew has performance issues so we can't really blame people not killing him
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 23:21 GMT
#2023
God dammit grush >.<
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 23:42 GMT
#2025
I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS WHY I WANT MORE OPINIONS AND DISCUSSION INVOLVED
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#2027
Have you read the last few pages?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 00:43 GMT
#2034
The evidence stacks up against Kenpachi I guess
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#2035
But then again... its Kenpachi
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 00:51 GMT
#2042
JH your day 1 reasons for wanting grush dead were bullshit and you know it
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 09:13 GMT
#2045
All the pieces of my insane puzzle point to Kenpachi and eventually we are going to have to deal with him much like Grush.

so I think until DEC publicly announces the scum team near the end of the game like he did the last PTP game I'm gonna vote for Kenpachi.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 09:19 GMT
#2046
Also I'm going to be gone for a couple of hours so follow what Mattchew / Austin say until I get back.
(Unless they go crazy and want to kill themselves or something)

If grush does something stupid slap him
Kurumi I want to see you discussing these things now you're role is useless for this cycle
JH still reacts violently when ever we briefly suspect them and that really bugs me especially when he is the only electric type left on the board and the electrocute KP is still unresolved
Zeph is still super lurking but then again so is most of the town.

Don't forget about Hiro he could still be scum and dangerous.

Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 09:21 GMT
#2047
Don't type when tired its bad for spelling and grammar
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 18:00 GMT
#2059
Too much sun was my bus ability I used on WBG I explained it with my claim.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 18:54 GMT
#2061
Nothing happened to me night 1
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 18:55 GMT
#2063
Nope

As I said I believe either clefairy or time based mechanics
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 18:56 GMT
#2064
Also has scum KP ever been explained and I've missed it?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 19:08 GMT
#2067
Maybe Hiro is lying about being a DT and makes every other attack fail?

Its a possibility I guess another is that he delays damage aimed at him but then why would he claim being hit since he already knew he would be taking the damage anyway.

I can't for the life of me explain the Hiro hits other than Kenpachi's heal at the moment and that makes me focus on Kenpachi rather than Hiro but maybe Hiro isn't telling us the truth which is why I would of REALLY LIKED A DT CHECK ON HIM KURUMI.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 19:36 GMT
#2070
Either Kenpachi or Hiro

We can't decide
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:08 GMT
#2075
Hiro seems really off and looking further back everything points to him

Kenpachi only has the tools to explain last night...

I'm leaning more towards Hiro at the moment what does everyone else think?



Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:14 GMT
#2076
Also if you're not watching the international at the moment you should be.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:20 GMT
#2078
We should also look at Zeph / JH voting Grush today
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:22 GMT
#2081
Well I can't exactly complain with how much LR spam I've been doing
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:24 GMT
#2082
On September 03 2012 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 05:20 HiroPro wrote:
hm, looks like I'm going to die. At this point, Kenpachi has to be scum I guess. I never used my second ability.

Sorry about the effort I've put into this game. I really did think the game was decided after night 1, even if the thread discussion was bad.

Wat.

Can't tell if trying to save self or serious.


Seriously can't tell if people suck or scum this game... like its almost impossible
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:34 GMT
#2086
So you do have KP...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:35 GMT
#2088
We don't know how mafia KP works...

I've already suggested they only have ability KP
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:38 GMT
#2090
no no its more the point Bio lied about your role which pisses me off
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 20:49 GMT
#2092
I doubt we're gonna get any other input from anyone else regarding this austin
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#2097
I've only seen scum flail around this badly...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 21:04 GMT
#2101
Meta is irrelevant and bad
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 21:12 GMT
#2105
Wait... so all of our votes on Hiro didn't count?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 21:46 GMT
#2109
Didn't Zeph claim veteran?

Shooting him just wastes your own ability
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 22:00 GMT
#2111
Great 2 people we hate are bullet proof

If there anyone we can actually shoot?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 22:31 GMT
#2113
Protect the confirmed townies...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 02 2012 22:39 GMT
#2115
^
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 00:22 GMT
#2117
I wonder if people actually read the thread lol
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 10:18 GMT
#2121
On September 03 2012 14:56 Zephirdd wrote:
grush, if you were the easy townie to lynch, you'd have been lynched already. point is: I'm the only one right now who thinks you are more disruptive than any other candidate right now. You claim that all I do is lurk and come back every X hours sheeping someone, but you do no different. Except that you just spill out non-sense shit without anything to back it up.

For instance, why the hell is kenpachi a better shot than you, and why am I a better lynch than you? rather, why are you suggesting that both medics should die when you've been pretty much worthless for town all game long?

Seriously?


READ THE GORRAM THREAD
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 10:19 GMT
#2122
Also you can all clearly tell what I'm watching at the moment ^^
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 18:27 GMT
#2126
We don't know how scum KP works austin they could split it to do exactly this. I mean its stupid and silly and requires perfect knowledge from the scum perspective but its possible.

Sadly I really doubt Zeph protected you because lets face it he hasn't reading the thread - Is claiming he hasn't been using his powers and is all around useless meaning I only have my own word to explain that I didn't hit you with the KP with sucks.

Luckily I have Kurumi who can hit me with the laser if it really bothers you (It also stops them using scum KP which is really handy(Provided thats how scum KP works but I made with the presumption in mind ))

Of course there is the major issue of if he is hitting me and then somehow gets Grush wrong because he is a lying git (We're still hitting grush with the VT laser right?) then my plan doesn't exactly work and its probably best Mattchew shoots me to end any uncertainties and to be fair its not exactly like we have a long list of people we can shoot at (Me you mattchew JH Kenpachi and Kurumi are killable (You and Mattchew are confirmed leaving me JH Kenpachi and Kurumi to use the Vigi shot on (But then Mattchews only hits me for 0.5kp meaning he can't shoot me FUCK I didn't think this out at all T_T but its still stupidly hypothetical by this stage)))

also I clearly love parentheses
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 19:34 GMT
#2128
I meant I don't know if they could split up 1kp of KP into 2 0.5kp shots or 4 0.25kp shots or 0.75kp and 0.25kp etc etc

Retarded idea but possible
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#2130
This is a PTP game where the mafia KP is being hidden for SOME reason

Why is it being hidden?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#2131
Also the rest of the town suck
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 20:04 GMT
#2132
If your really worried about me have Kurumi shoots me and depending on the hosts definition of VT that should remove my typing and allow you to kill me easy enough.

This is my plan I understand why anyone wouldn't want me around at LYLO
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 20:24 GMT
#2134
True but I'm leaning on the side of caution
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 20:41 GMT
#2136
Last I checked we WAS town Austin

Other than us two who has actually done ANYTHING the last 2 cycles?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 21:00 GMT
#2138
Kenpachi isn't that man it was all circumstantial evidence against him and all of that faded on Hiro's flip
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 03 2012 21:16 GMT
#2140
Obs QT T_T
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 08 2012 21:50 GMT
#2231
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#2237
On September 09 2012 07:14 Mattchew wrote:
Why did we have a night phase if zeph couldn't be shot


Zeph forgot to send in actions so many times you might of gotten an extra cycle
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 08 2012 22:37 GMT
#2241
Only Meowth knows Pay day so it was obvious even from a town PoV that Meowth used Payday and if It wasn't obvious you really need to play more pokemon

S+B and me meh you have me there
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 08 2012 23:13 GMT
#2245
On September 09 2012 08:03 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 07:37 Drazerk wrote:
Only Meowth knows Pay day so it was obvious even from a town PoV that Meowth used Payday and if It wasn't obvious you really need to play more pokemon

S+B and me meh you have me there


Yeah but you knew it was a 0.5 KP attack when you shouldn't have known


As Austin said earlier - a 0.000000001kp attack is slightly retarded
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 09 2012 00:11 GMT
#2250
The secret to playing against scum Drazerk is to do nothing. Let me lynch my scum team and then you try to kill me praying I'm not a vengful townie / kp immune / lynch immune / rhyming.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 09 2012 00:18 GMT
#2252
On September 09 2012 09:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
The secret to playing against scum Drazerk is to do nothing. Let me lynch my scum team and then you try to kill me praying I'm not a vengful townie / kp immune / lynch immune / rhyming.

thing is that is a default lose for town if you're town.
+ Show Spoiler +
BURN, just kidding :p


Silly Toad I always role scum even when I actually role town.
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