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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On August 20 2012 13:51 Chezinu wrote: Your right... Look what I discovered: They joined the game at the exact same time. The must be hey! you joined at the same time as us! That means you're scum with us! KILL CHEZINU | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On August 20 2012 11:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote: considering there was a post what? 3 maybe 4 above mine that was a chain of exactly that. Not a pointless mention given that the discussion continued. Also, no one pushed the "stop the speculation train." Mentioning it while not trying to actually stop it is how do we say, useless. That was one post, that if anything looks like a joke. His next post is a comment on the setup. Also, what's the difference between Toad's post and yours? stop the bullshit speculations please Also people stop role speculating So how are you doing something that isn't "useless", when what you say follows directly along the same lines as what toad said? Firstly, it wasn't a problem when you posted. People were talking about it, Toad made a post about it, and it mostly stopped. So, what's the motivation behind repeating it? Now you're saying that what Toad did was useless, while insinuating that what you did was actually trying to stop it in comparison to him when you repeated the same thing the same way. You're trying to buy yourself cred in a way that doesn't actually add anything to the town. You also say that we should focus our discussion on finding scum, but don't really do that much to help there either. You call two people scummy, but without any sort of actual reasoning as to why, or some sort of concrete pressure like voting for them and pushing their lynch, it's just fluff. I'm not liking your posting so far.On August 20 2012 13:12 JingleHell wrote: This is a bad case. It's basically up to chance. You don't lynch people for being bad, you lynch people for being scum. If you want to make a case for Grush being scum, go ahead, but making a case for lynching him because you don't like him is silly. My case on grush is simple. If he's scum, we want him dead. If he's town, he's not exactly a candidate for most productive. Leaving him alive makes him a liability, making him dead makes him dead. If we don't have a better target, I'm more than happy to go with that. If you hate meta, how do you feel about analyzing motive of a post, since that's not purely based in "what has already been posted"? Are you saying we should only lynch people who jump up and down screaming that they're scum? On August 20 2012 13:51 Chezinu wrote: Your right... Look what I discovered: They joined the game at the exact same time. The must be Mafia! You dastardly fiend, you've discovered the secret to my plan! But, you didn't count on one thing: On August 17 2012 15:06 Chezinu wrote: /in You're also a member of Rocket People! You're our sleeper agent. You know it too. That's why you're subconsciously claiming scum. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
I thought of something scary... what if there is a pokemon master in the game that is trying to catch all the pokemon? What if we all get caught? Whatever you do, don't let the comforts of a pokeball lure you in... Its a trap! Oh, and be aware of Ash! PS: where is everyone? | ||
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
We the Rockets Peoples Shall Rule the World! I have been enlighten! We are on the same team! We must kill those who wish to capture all the pokemon and enslave us! We must stop these cruel slave drivers! Death to the Pokemon Masters! Let the pokemon rule themselves! Please join our forces and make it more than double! Support pokemon rights! | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On August 20 2012 07:41 Drazerk wrote: ##Take In Sunlight ##Solar Beam: VisceraEyes Since this is the most interesting thing so far I'll guess its also the best way to start. Drazerk's maybe fake solar beam doesn't make any sense. I know its Drazerk so in that way I could be excused. But the way he explained it doesn't fit a Drazerk move (as I remember him from last I played). I would have expected a more "Because I wanted too" response. All that is meta and not super reliable. But "Track the damage track the scum" doesn't even make sense. Even if you know that Toad have a KP doesn't make it easier to find scum? I dislike Drazerk's posting so far... I end it with this lulz: On August 20 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote: Theres no real way for me to stop looking like scum with my play style and its why you will need to kill me (I said kill not lynch) before Lylo other whys ill make an awful call at a critical situation and lose town the game or you will all suspect me and lose town the game. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [some of my favorites[/spoiler] + On August 20 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote: Im assuming wherebugsgo can only be a bug-type, so lets list off gen 1 bug types: 010 Caterpie Bug 011 Metapod Bug 012 Butterfree Bug Flying 013 Weedle Bug Poison 014 Kakuna Bug Poison 015 Beedrill Bug Poison 046 Paras Bug Grass 047 Parasect Bug Grass 048 Venonat Bug Poison 049 Venomoth Bug Poison 123 Scyther Bug Flying Now the real question is where bug types go, pokealliance or team rocket. If my memory serves me right, team rocket never used any of these bug type pokemon in the show. Therefore, wherebugsgo is telling the truth. Flawless logic. hahaha On August 20 2012 09:02 grush57 wrote: See look at wiggles, he asks me a legit question. Plus, he continues my tradition  To answer the question, breadcrumb, and meta. Plus I'm town. Now, we must find scum. I must stop posting so scum can start posting and then we catch them. Cool trick. Is grush really dumb enough to only breadcrumb that he's town when he actually is town? Only time will tell. PS: The word "starsenses" is his breadcrumb that he's town. For example see Mad Men mafia (I think). It really is that dumb. On August 20 2012 09:20 grush57 wrote: Come on man u come up with this new fancy term and theory and then u disprove it in the same post. User was temp banned for this post. hahahaha On August 20 2012 13:51 Chezinu wrote: Your right... Look what I discovered: They joined the game at the exact same time. The must be hahahahah. Chezinu I'm glad you're in this game, I really enjoyed obsing you in Bureaucracy and hope for more of the same this time. Now for a little bit of seriousness: I think Drazerk is scum. Two reasons, with subpoints: (1) The "trying to out KP roles" thing. Now, IDGAF whether or not it's a good idea for town - that's not the point right now. The point is, Drazerk was clearly just doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff. (1A) He hadn't thought through whether or not outing KP roles is a good idea for town or not before he started doing it; you can tell because his argument with me evolves over the course of the discussion, and he relies on the "kenpachi assumption" of balanced type distribution, but not until after Kenpachi suggested it - implying he hadn't originally been making that assumption. Additionally, he clearly assumes the existence of factional KP until later on. (1B) His method of trying to out KP roles sucks ass juice. Like, we know nothing more than we did previously about whether or not Toad has a KP role than we did before, all we know is that when Drazerk (fake?)claimed a KP role, toad (fake?)claimed a KP role right back. There's no way that his troll method gains reliable information, either as scum or as town. Drazerk is also smart enough to realize this. (1C) Okay, so what? Just doing stupid trolly shit doesn't make Drazerk town. As he himself has informed us, his town meta in this kind of heavily themed game is to do stupid trolly shit and not be useful to town. I've played enough of these games with him to recognize that. My argument isn't that he's scum because he does stupid trolly shit. He is scum because he does stupid trolly shit and then, when called out on it, tries to make up arguments for why it's pro-town. Honestly, I was shocked when I posted "sooo, why are you trying to out kp roles" and he responded with an actual srsbsns reason rather than just more trololol. Intermission: Some Choice Quotes from Drazerk On August 20 2012 09:09 Drazerk wrote: The key to winning on either side is thread presence This will never ever ever change. lolwut On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote: I never defend myself You should know this by now that's interesting... doesn't look that way to me. On August 20 2012 09:08 Drazerk wrote: I do love how 4/25 people enter the thread in the EXACT same way Analysing how people join the thread is probably the most interesting part of the game Okay then let's do that! (2) The Solarbeam. This is a pretty silly reason and you should think much more about the first part, but I think this one is still interesting enough to post. I think Drazerk actually is Venusaur, and he has charged up energy for his solar beam. (2A) Think about it for a minute - why choose solarbeam as his fake dayvig thing on VE? It makes no sense - it's a two-turn move, and if present in this game it would definitely require a turn of charge-up in order to be able to fire later. Plus, there are much more appropriate moves to choose. Shadow and Flame was an unblockable day- or night- vig shot with one use. Fissure, Horn Drill and Guillotine are all more appropriate choices for this than solarbeam; so is hyper beam. And from the pregame, Drazerk obviously knows enough about pokemon to realize that solarbeam isn't the best choice for analogy. (2B) Why does this make him scum? Well, it's the inconsistency. He tries to persuade us that outing KP roles is pro-town, while purposely charging his KP role in a way that keeps it secret. If he really believed in that "track the KP, track the scum" thing then he'd put his money where his mouth his, imo. There's also the general scummy-scumscum stuff he posts, like his "I always look scummy so I need to be vigged" and his "I don't defend myself" and his whole little "anti-meta" thing. But the problem is, I don't think those are "alignment indicative" from him, since I've seen him do them before as town. They're just "being-a-terrible-player-indicative." Oh and also ##vote: Drazerk | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
People are so good at this game, they have already deduced drazerk as scum so early. Wish I was that good. This is pretty neat though. On August 20 2012 07:48 Drazerk wrote: I GOT A KP ROLE OUT OF MY TROLL Basically all I wanted  Drazerk used Old Rod! Oh! It's a bite! Dont think scum would be so publicly proud of something people see as scummy. It's needless. I say town. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
Is he scum? I don't remain convinced. The big argument against him essentially boils down to meta that Drazerk won't be serious if he's town. Color me unimpressed. Also, if I was Venusaur, without a doubt I'd charge that Solarbeam, town or not. Who wants to remain vanilla when you've got a solar beam? Also, tracking KP roles and outing your own KP roles are not the same. Obbbbviously grush is the key to this first day. See who targets Grush (he's always an easy target to attack. He'll seem scummy, town or mafia.) That person is either a townie who has never played with him or mafia wanting someone easy. Or not. Or yes. So jinglehell... any other thoughts on anyone else? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
But if this doesn't ring true to anyone else, I'll set it aside until there's more evidence to go on. Last time I played a crazy game with Drazerk, he was town but I thought he was scum and got sucked into tunneling him for most of the game, so I'm going to try to avoid that this time. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On August 20 2012 18:59 strongandbig wrote: Let me restate the argument in a different way: it's not only that Drazerk wouldn't be serious if he's town, although that's part of it; it's also that Drazerk's arguments seem thrown together after the fact to justify his actions, and I don't think town Drazerk would do that - he would either think things through first or he would just ignore questions about his actions. But if this doesn't ring true to anyone else, I'll set it aside until there's more evidence to go on. Last time I played a crazy game with Drazerk, he was town but I thought he was scum and got sucked into tunneling him for most of the game, so I'm going to try to avoid that this time. Hey hey hey hey hey I justify my actions even in Bastard you was just tunnelling me so god hard to see it also I've never thought things through in any game of mafia ever so yeah. As I said I need to be KILLED not lynched I chose solar beam because I knew anyone with pokemon knowledge would see it as a joke I'm not that cruel to want to kill VE over and over You're big case was rather long and I don't care I'm only posting to move the discussion along | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
I'm a bug type so fire / flying / rock types - Bring it | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On August 20 2012 14:23 Chezinu wrote: Hey guys.... I thought of something scary... what if there is a pokemon master in the game that is trying to catch all the pokemon? What if we all get caught? Whatever you do, don't let the comforts of a pokeball lure you in... Its a trap! Oh, and be aware of Ash! PS: where is everyone? Do not worry for I was not traded. I remained on my own, very blue-ish home turf :3 Sad thing though. Picking would have been way more awesome, or some kind of conditional power like someone mimicking someones action. THAT would be funny. Or ##Metronome | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/120710.gif) Thats you right now. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On August 20 2012 21:52 Toadesstern wrote: I was SO going to post it :p Something tells me you was trying to talk to the person who actually had metronome though... | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On August 20 2012 08:37 Mementoss wrote: This is the worst role claim since VE every game I've played with him. This is PTP. I got med. who knows what comes next. np I'm not VE; I am much cuter. On August 20 2012 08:44 kitaman27 wrote: Hey look, a bunch of individuals are clearly breadcrumbing the town role pm! How clever! But wait a minute, everyone knows this is against the rules.  So what are the odds that the mafia team also has the town role pm or happened to pick up on the crumb and has decided to use it gain town cred? Sneaky sneaky! Lynch bugs first? Let me see if I got this right... you noticed the pokealliance is breadcrumbing the role PM and then you decide that it's likely that they are scum and therefore should be lynched...? On August 20 2012 09:07 grush57 wrote: Anyways, no scum would be retarded enough to be this active early. If anything they would be in a position asking the questions while not doing anything themselves like drazerk(or anyone else really) However, the only way to prove your innocence is to catch scum. U C? I know you are banned, but I want to mention how stupid this is. Being so active this early IS a scum trait. It's the time of the day where there is the lowest amount of information and you can always justify whatever happened during this phase as "trolling" or "baiting". I've done that as scum before. Throughout what I've been reading, kitaman looks incredibly annoyed about the whole "coloring town blue" thing. I mean, it's in the OP as people mentioned, and being a PTP every town is blue. Anybody else thinks he got annoyed because he thought that would confirm them as town, and therefore make life a hell for scum? + Show Spoiler [useless stuff for the game] + On August 20 2012 09:34 Kurumi wrote: Shut up you wannabe Zapdos , you are nothing but a common pidgeon with eggs Zephir with double d's, pfffff I now know the meaning of Zephyr. I never knew. I thought Zephirdd was a cool name. TT I've played with drazerk before. I understand what he means. Someone has to shoot him; not early because he is a cool scum bite, but late when we don't want him around lylo. That's how I see it. I'd say grush is pretty much the same. I don't remember Kenpachi ever flipping scum so I don't really care, but he always somehow dies sooner or later for some odd mechanical game-specific reason lol On August 20 2012 13:09 BioSC wrote: What does grush being banned has to do with anything? If you think he is scum you make a case against him. And it's 42. Finally. On August 20 2012 21:54 Drazerk wrote: Something tells me you was trying to talk to the person who actually had metronome though... You were And Toad, what did that do? Did it do anything at all? >_> Oh Oh Oh is it like I suggested pregame? you use a random ability from any player in the game??? *___* | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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