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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 20 2012 00:13 GMT
#321
On August 20 2012 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 09:07 grush57 wrote:
Anyways, no scum would be retarded enough to be this active early.
If anything they would be in a position asking the questions while not doing anything themselves like drazerk(or anyone else really)
However, the only way to prove your innocence is to catch scum.
U C?


The key to winning on either side is thread presence

This will never ever ever change.


Well also that isn't true always.
Alot of games scum just lurks and town just kills itself.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:13 GMT
#322
On August 20 2012 09:13 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 09:07 grush57 wrote:
Anyways, no scum would be retarded enough to be this active early.
If anything they would be in a position asking the questions while not doing anything themselves like drazerk(or anyone else really)
However, the only way to prove your innocence is to catch scum.
U C?


The key to winning on either side is thread presence

This will never ever ever change.


Well also that isn't true always.
Alot of games scum just lurks and town just kills itself.


Fine in games where towns are actually competent the key to winning is thread presence
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 20 2012 00:14 GMT
#323
On August 20 2012 09:13 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 09:13 grush57 wrote:
On August 20 2012 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 09:07 grush57 wrote:
Anyways, no scum would be retarded enough to be this active early.
If anything they would be in a position asking the questions while not doing anything themselves like drazerk(or anyone else really)
However, the only way to prove your innocence is to catch scum.
U C?


The key to winning on either side is thread presence

This will never ever ever change.


Well also that isn't true always.
Alot of games scum just lurks and town just kills itself.


Fine in games where towns are actually competent the key to winning is thread presence


Hmm yes very true.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 20 2012 00:26 GMT
#324
Silly Kita, claiming you're town and coloring the word is not against the rules!

I sincerely hope you are only doing that to generate discussion. Otherwise, your stretch is incredibly suspicious.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#325
Yeah, wtf is up with him saying that we should get modkilled and all this fancy crap cuz we said we're town in blue.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#326
On August 20 2012 08:28 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:26 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:22 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:21 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:20 deconduo wrote:
Scum KP is hidden.


Then scum only have the KP roles people made

Pretty much all I'm gathering from this

No that means Kp was balanced accordingly to the roles they got. That is so easy.


I honestly prefer my line of reasoning to that. Static KP means players become more important to others and gives trackers / watchers to have more power

Themed games are not an exception of "make setups fair" rule. That is just the usual cleaning hosts do. Role cops are the strongest roles out there pretty much , but given that you can make really strong roles I wouldnt be surprised if I have seen a Cop checking everything and so on .


What if I told you


you can create rolecop immune roles.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 20 2012 00:32 GMT
#327
also unless someone was an asshole and made a vanilla role, everyone is a blue. Well, except for those who aren't. I'm looking for you.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:32 GMT
#328
On August 20 2012 09:31 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:28 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:26 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:22 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:21 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:20 deconduo wrote:
Scum KP is hidden.


Then scum only have the KP roles people made

Pretty much all I'm gathering from this

No that means Kp was balanced accordingly to the roles they got. That is so easy.


I honestly prefer my line of reasoning to that. Static KP means players become more important to others and gives trackers / watchers to have more power

Themed games are not an exception of "make setups fair" rule. That is just the usual cleaning hosts do. Role cops are the strongest roles out there pretty much , but given that you can make really strong roles I wouldnt be surprised if I have seen a Cop checking everything and so on .


What if I told you


you can create rolecop immune roles.


What if I told you you could create rolecop immune penetration roles
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 20 2012 00:34 GMT
#329
On August 20 2012 09:31 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:28 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:26 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:22 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:21 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:20 deconduo wrote:
Scum KP is hidden.


Then scum only have the KP roles people made

Pretty much all I'm gathering from this

No that means Kp was balanced accordingly to the roles they got. That is so easy.


I honestly prefer my line of reasoning to that. Static KP means players become more important to others and gives trackers / watchers to have more power

Themed games are not an exception of "make setups fair" rule. That is just the usual cleaning hosts do. Role cops are the strongest roles out there pretty much , but given that you can make really strong roles I wouldnt be surprised if I have seen a Cop checking everything and so on .


What if I told you


you can create rolecop immune roles.

Shut up you wannabe Zapdos , you are nothing but a common pidgeon with eggs Zephir with double d's, pfffff
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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 20 2012 00:55 GMT
#330
wiggles and kita trying too hard

grush leaving us all
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 20 2012 00:57 GMT
#331
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1352#27024

uhhh...?
Bio - Breaking it down
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 00:58 GMT
#332
Damnit Grush!
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 20 2012 01:11 GMT
#333
On August 20 2012 08:59 grush57 wrote:
Come on, how are you helping at all right now?
You're wasting time with a useless player.
Anyways I've proven that I'm town.

On August 20 2012 09:02 grush57 wrote:
See look at wiggles, he asks me a legit question. Plus, he continues my tradition

To answer the question, breadcrumb, and meta. Plus I'm town.

Now, we must find scum.

I must stop posting so scum can start posting and then we catch them.

Cool trick.

On August 20 2012 09:10 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 09:08 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 20 2012 09:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:59 grush57 wrote:
Come on, how are you helping at all right now?
You're wasting time with a useless player.
Anyways I've proven that I'm town.

How have you done that?


What is your opinion wiggles about the people who are breadcrumbing role pms when they know its against the rules. Do you think it was just a harmless mistake or that some of them are using it for personal gain?


Well u c, SOME of us said town and colored it blue, but u can tell cuz its blue in the day1 post. Not really breadcrumbing at all. If you solely think that your town from that, thats a no-no.

Too bad he's banned. I always hate when people throw around the word "confirmed". I think I'm going to promote policy lynches on those people in the future.

Also, I don't think we should reveal too much at this point in the game. Even something as simple as trying to tell someone your pokemon type can be disastrous. Say someone can do 0.5 KP in damage, but they're a fire type and know you're a grass type. Now they can just kill you if they want, instead of only damage you, because it will be super-effective.

So, I'm going to say that if you're smart, it's a god idea to not breadcrumb things about your role/pokemon/type. First, it does nothing to support your claim later, and second, it can give scum an advantage against you. This isn't to say don't crumb things like checks, just things related to flavour or role abilities, because it will only hurt. It doesn't help in normal games, and with these mechanics, it will cause harm.
you gotta dance
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 01:17 GMT
#334
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 20 2012 01:19 GMT
#335
Whoever said third time is the charm is a horrible liar. Also people stop role speculating. Previous PtP games have seen really amazing ideas thought up and ones that lack any sort of creativity.

What people should instead be concentrating is scum and people trying to push scumish ideas. As Kurumi made the statement of role cops being the best form of cop he is obviously scum.

Now lets continue finding the rest of his team as it appears they are going to out themselves easily.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 20 2012 01:23 GMT
#336
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 01:23 GMT
#337
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 20 2012 01:27 GMT
#338
On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons


I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice.


#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 20 2012 01:28 GMT
#339
On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons


I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice.




I never defend myself

You should know this by now
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 20 2012 01:34 GMT
#340
On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons


I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice.




I never defend myself

You should know this by now


Then you should really stop playing so scummy. Playing as you are now reaks almost as distinctly red as mr kurumi over there. He smells bad.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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