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On August 11 2012 02:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
I have no intention of voting xsebt. Its either you or VE at this point. Lynching into a dt is insane, confirmed or not.
1) If they're both scum of course they do
2) This is completely true and probably why I'll vote for you by the end of this.
3) Again, if they're scum no rules were broken.
You keep feeding us info that we can use to try to win later, but insist we kill you. I'm all but convinced your town, but we can't risk it going into LYLO. I'm still not voting until xsebt gets his ass in here and gives some semblance of an explanation for this shitshow.
You won't go into lylo if we lynch VE. You will if you lynch me.
At this point, modkills might start to be a factor for players like hassy and possibly xsebt if he never shows and whomever else doesn't show. The game could possibly be over tonight if BC feels like killing nonvoters.
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Reposting this since BC hasn't answered it yet in my PMs nor when I asked in the thread althoguh I know he's been around or he wouldn't have been able to deal with the toad-xsebt situation.
This is a legitimate question - are DTs functionally rolecops or alignment cops or both?
Specifically,
DT checks townie = ?
DT checks miller = ?
DT checks goon = ?
DT checks roleblocker = ?
DT checks town mason = ?
DT checks scum mason = ?
DT checks godfather = ?
DT checks medic = ?
DT checks vigilante = ?
You can post the answer in the thread if you don't want to just tell one player.
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Out of the two Talis has been playing more townie than VE. I wont be around for the lynch but this whole thing seems off about Talis being scum.
##Vote: VE
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Well that's a surprise. Guess I was wrong there or my head is being played with.
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On August 10 2012 20:51 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 14:48 Lazermonkey wrote:
Talis needs to die. We cannot judge him by his defense. There are two possible explanation for his play here.
1) He is miller.
2) He is scum but wants to act as miller as it's the only way he might survive.
Out of these two 2 is much more likely than 1. So unless you had a very convincing town read to start with, you should vote him. That's exactly the point. I'm not even saying what talis is posting is looking more like a mafia (except for the fact that he's leaving out the mafia scenarios when talking but no idea how you guys think about that) but if he is mafia he can't just get in here and tell people "sup dudes, I got a red check on me, ignore it and lynch someone else because I say so". He has to deal with it no matter of alignment. Besides I'd be up for lynching Zeph as well. I don't realy like how he was so furious and mad about someone breaking the rules and suddenly went on to sweettalk me like that when he said "Toad is't not your fault. Xsebt is the guy who did something wrong". I get that you're mad if someone breaks the rules but it felt over the top. Not even Talis was anywhere as mad and he's the center of all this after all.
Toad, in your honest opinion do you think I could play like I've played this game as scum? Even remotely close to this?
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On August 11 2012 02:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
I have no intention of voting xsebt. Its either you or VE at this point. Lynching into a dt is insane, confirmed or not.
1) If they're both scum of course they do
2) This is completely true and probably why I'll vote for you by the end of this.
3) Again, if they're scum no rules were broken.
You keep feeding us info that we can use to try to win later, but insist we kill you. I'm all but convinced your town, but we can't risk it going into LYLO. I'm still not voting until xsebt gets his ass in here and gives some semblance of an explanation for this shitshow.
why is it insane? is Xsebt town to you?
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also, why haven't masons been masoning me today
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Marv, xsebt is town. This is established.
BC got back to me about DTs.
DTs receive character name, role name, color-formatted to indicate the alignment.
DTs are both alignment cops and rolecops (and character cops?)
Therefore an enormous preponderance of evidence indicates that Xsebt is clearly town. This also guarantees that toad is town, otherwise xsebt doesn't tell toad about his check on me. (xsebt checked toad N2).
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alright. you can tell i'm not really full of thread information right now 
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On August 11 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only SC colors work (red zerg, green toss and blue terran)
A while ago we tried to get more colors for mafia but it was rejected.
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On August 11 2012 03:34 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only SC colors work (red zerg, green toss and blue terran) A while ago we tried to get more colors for mafia but it was rejected.
Tell me, and tell me right now, why you won't play properly.
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On August 11 2012 03:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 03:34 Glasse wrote:On August 11 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only SC colors work (red zerg, green toss and blue terran) A while ago we tried to get more colors for mafia but it was rejected. Tell me, and tell me right now, why you won't play properly.
As far as I know I am not breaking any rules so I am playing properly.
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On August 11 2012 03:43 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 03:36 marvellosity wrote:On August 11 2012 03:34 Glasse wrote:On August 11 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only SC colors work (red zerg, green toss and blue terran) A while ago we tried to get more colors for mafia but it was rejected. Tell me, and tell me right now, why you won't play properly. As far as I know I am not breaking any rules so I am playing properly.
On August 10 2012 01:26 Glasse wrote:
This game is so weird, I don't think I've ever played one like this before. The atmosphere is just wrong.
I probably picked the wrong game to play this way. Oh well, can't stop now.
This. Explain.
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That's infuriating Glasse...
@Marv,
Lynching into Xsebt is insane to me because no one has counterclaimed and giving up a dt for a scum in that order is not the way to go about doing things.
Talis presumably is not blue given his arguments this past day. If he flips VT, THEN I'd want to lynch xsebt. If Talis were to flip miller or scum, xsebt is pretty much confirmed.
I'd like to believe we'd be significantly better off lynching talis today if it were between xsebt and talis.
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On August 11 2012 03:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 03:43 Glasse wrote:On August 11 2012 03:36 marvellosity wrote:On August 11 2012 03:34 Glasse wrote:On August 11 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only SC colors work (red zerg, green toss and blue terran) A while ago we tried to get more colors for mafia but it was rejected. Tell me, and tell me right now, why you won't play properly. As far as I know I am not breaking any rules so I am playing properly. Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 01:26 Glasse wrote:
This game is so weird, I don't think I've ever played one like this before. The atmosphere is just wrong.
I probably picked the wrong game to play this way. Oh well, can't stop now. This. Explain.
Because an extra person to try to stop the chaos caused by the early part of the game would've been useful, but now it would just cause even more chaos if I started being more active which wouldn't help because some people think I'm scum and they would just waste more time on me. So I'm actually helping town right now, in some way.
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No, Glasse, you're lurking the shit out of the game, same as 4 or 5 others on whom we have very poor reads due to inactivity. Scum gets to hide now and are likely to continue to do so into the endgame. You are a massive hindrance to town.
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On August 11 2012 03:56 Hopeless1der wrote:
No, Glasse, you're lurking the shit out of the game, same as 4 or 5 others on whom we have very poor reads due to inactivity. Scum gets to hide now and are likely to continue to do so into the endgame. You are a massive hindrance to town.
There's nothing I can do about that, so I don't see how that makes me a hindrance. I might not be helpful but I'm not a hindrance.
We need a no lurker policy to make that happen.
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By "make that happen" I mean stopping people from lurking.
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You couldn't have pushed for a lynch lurkers policy? There's nothing that can be done anymore perhaps, but that's the whole point. You're effectively useless to town. You've given us no reads, no insight, not even enough info to mark you as town or scum. You're a random statistic. How in the hell does that help town?
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On August 11 2012 04:02 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 03:56 Hopeless1der wrote:
No, Glasse, you're lurking the shit out of the game, same as 4 or 5 others on whom we have very poor reads due to inactivity. Scum gets to hide now and are likely to continue to do so into the endgame. You are a massive hindrance to town. There's nothing I can do about that, so I don't see how that makes me a hindrance. I might not be helpful but I'm not a hindrance. We need a no lurker policy to make that happen.
If that's what you think then you need to re-evaluate right now. You are absolutely a hindrance because town is not able to get a proper read on you, nor are you bringing anything to the table. How do you see this as not being a hindrance?
You are aware enough of goings-on to reply to these questions, but the mind boggles that your stance is "I'll continue being useless - at least I'm not a hindrance".
It makes absolutely zero sense.
This town is deep in the shit because people like you to play the game properly.
I replaced in last night for a scummy lurker, and I have had ZERO attention on me, no-one asking me questions about how my predecessor played, and it's farcical. The reason being that there's the clusterfuck around the main candidates, but also there are SO MANY PLAYERS like you that are doing nothing. If you are town, contribute your god-damn opinion and try to win this game.
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