EPTOn July 20 2012 00:25 marvellosity wrote:
Matt, I don't think you know the definition of 'sheeping'
Matt, I don't think you know the definition of 'sheeping'
I was gonna say regurgitating, but decided sheeping looked more smarmy
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Mattchew
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I was gonna say regurgitating, but decided sheeping looked more smarmy | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On July 20 2012 00:25 Palmar wrote: I was in liar game too. He only became dominant near the end of the game. He was pretty much a non-factor early on. Did you compare the filters linked? I obsed that game. I know his play there is very different from this game, but I don't think that's because he's scum. I think it's simply that he's not as involved in the game and can't play his usual spammy aggressive style. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
I'm always an aggressive asshole. If I don't have time, I'm still an aggressive asshole, I just post less. Why are you so intent on defending him anyway? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On July 20 2012 00:29 Palmar wrote: people don't change hiro. I'm always an aggressive asshole. If I don't have time, I'm still an aggressive asshole, I just post less. Why are you so intent on defending him anyway? I don't think he's scum. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
austin is still poking at GGQ which is kinda irrelevant. He made that massive defence post in a spoiler towards the end of day 1 where if he spent half the time he spent writing that post on doing something constructive, that would have been way more awesome. despite being prodded he continues to be irrelevant (like, a post made agreeing with VE about deciding candidates sometime before the lynch, which was both poorly thought through and also clearly not VE's intention, as VE himself clarified later) and i don't believe a town austin would continue to be so pointless. I said I wanted to kill VE earlier because as Prob pointed out at the time, at some point yesterday VE said he was going to reread the thread, and said he found some interesting things. VE went on to post a fairly decent scumlist towards the end of the night but as Prob said it provided no "a-ha" moments as had been implied. When prodded for this VE replied that he was working on the post and to leave him alone, but he ended up making no such post. It feels like he made some excuse to not contribute to town so much originally (gonna read thread instead) and didn't expect to be called up by Prob and went silent so as to hope it all goes away. I don't see the town motivation for VE telling thread/prob he was working on his post and not making it, but the scum motivation of hoping it goes away because he doesn't know how to fulfil his earlier promises seems reasonably evident. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
All you've focused on so far is the amount of his posts, not the content. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 20 2012 00:35 Palmar wrote: yeah but why? All you've focused on so far is the amount of his posts, not the content. because i think gonzaw is the type of person who, when super short of time, instead of focusing that time usefully, burps his incomplete thoughts down on to the thread instead, because he can't help himself. compare his most recent big post on Foolishness/BH etc. which showed much more evidence and thought. disagree? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On July 20 2012 00:30 syllogism wrote: Palmar while you are here, explain, in your own words. Why you think BM is mafia compare this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=54241 to this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=54241 and this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&user=54241 Sure, you can in theory make the argument he got excited with his powerrole in BC's game and that's why he was so much more engaged than in the two games he's scum (including this one). But I don't think I have to spoonfeed you the difference in emphasis and posting style... right? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 20 2012 00:35 Palmar wrote: yeah but why? All you've focused on so far is the amount of his posts, not the content. I think I said this already, but Gonzaw seems to gain his aggressiveness from his thread dominance. He outwrites and outreads everyone forcing people to interact with him and this is how he gets his reads. When he has this kinda time and effort to put into a game, this is where his confidence stems from IMO | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
I'm out for now. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On July 20 2012 00:35 Palmar wrote: yeah but why? All you've focused on so far is the amount of his posts, not the content. Because he still has the same obsession that he has as town (aggressiveness not scum (unless it's against him in which case it is scum)), still has the same general use of meta with nothing specific to support most of his reads. While I don't really agree with the supersoft case, I think it was thought through well - he makes valid points about supersoft being less tunnely on reads and being very fluffy in his posts. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 20 2012 00:38 Palmar wrote: he's a politician that steals powers and he used my vote to consolidate a lynch onto BH... if he is scum, i dont think he'd be a leader nor someone the leaders reach out to day 1, so he would have very little idea if he was helping a mislynch or a scum lynch by moving me to BHcompare this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=54241 to this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=54241 and this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&user=54241 Sure, you can in theory make the argument he got excited with his powerrole in BC's game and that's why he was so much more engaged than in the two games he's scum (including this one). But I don't think I have to spoonfeed you the difference in emphasis and posting style... right? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 20 2012 00:42 HiroPro wrote: Because he still has the same obsession that he has as town (aggressiveness not scum (unless it's against him in which case it is scum)), still has the same general use of meta with nothing specific to support most of his reads. While I don't really agree with the supersoft case, I think it was thought through well - he makes valid points about supersoft being less tunnely on reads and being very fluffy in his posts. so why do you not agree with it? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:58 Bill Murray wrote: on the top of 69, Foolishness said: "That was clearly not my attention, hence I made that post saying I was going to move my vote I'm still sure syllogism is mafia but there are more important matters." Notice the Freudian slip? he meant to say intention. People paying attention to him is making him nervous enough to slip. Proof, to me, he is scum, nor anyone, hasn't ever been sweeter. This post in particular reminded me a lot of town BM in death factory 2. You were in that game too Palmar, so wouldn't you agree? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
It's the way he behaved about the BH case. It didn't look like he was trying to spread guilt around or sheep whatever was the popular opinion - it legitimately looked like he was trying to figure out BH's alignment. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
gonzaw's points about him being irrelevant where he is more normally to the point is a far more likely way to distinguish a supersoft town/scum | ||
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