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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 19 2012 16:25 GMT
#1721
Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen.

So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 19 2012 16:28 GMT
#1722
hey palmar, is there a particular reason for this outburst of activity?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 19 2012 16:28 GMT
#1723
VE what do you make of MZ's case on rastaban, and does it alter your view of MZ at all?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
July 19 2012 16:30 GMT
#1724
On July 20 2012 01:28 supersoft wrote:
hey palmar, is there a particular reason for this outburst of activity?


As long as he's defending me I see no problem with it. It's not like there's anything else to do today but provide reads-- we're lynching Kurumi anyways.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 16:32 GMT
#1725
On July 20 2012 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen.

So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH.

Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah

For those keeping score at home

Scum =
Foolishness
Kurumi
VE
Rastaban
Katina
MZ

maybe chez?


There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
July 19 2012 16:37 GMT
#1726
I don't like risk.nuke. I think part of it is his disgusting reaver portrait, but check it out:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=76576

His initial comments actually aren't that bad, viewed on their own-- he doesn't like chaos or chezinu, he calls out the bad day 1 reads thing, and he argues about about RL. But how much as he really added since that initial outburst of early game chatter?

Well, He drops a vote on Kurumi with some minimal discussion, since Kurumi is basically scum D1. He explains his vote.

And then... nothing. He drops a vote on austinmcc later as we get closer to the lynch deadline.

That's everything Risk.Nuke has done.




Now, I could imagine having a relatively quiet first half of D1, or maybe entire D1. But we're in D2 now, and after a whole night and nearly a third of D2, RN is unbelievably quiet. Why is that? It's not because he thinks there's nothing to talk about, I can assure you that-- he made a pretty long response to one of the opening posts when there was less activity: (link)

Risk.Nuke is alarmingly inactive-- he's posted no analysis, no reads, nothing. Since the end of D1 he's made two posts:
On July 19 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 01:19 syllogism wrote:
I can't believe this game uses extended majority lynch. How was that a good idea

Don't blame the system when the fault lies in a dumb unorganized town.

On July 19 2012 21:38 risk.nuke wrote:
We need to kill kurumi. For tomorrow I feel katina will bleed red. Will elaborate when I feel like it.


The first one is worthless, and the second one is (in the first half) self evident and (in the second half) completely left hanging.

What are you doing, risk.nuke?

why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 19 2012 16:57 GMT
#1727
MZ was my weakest read anywaqy. I haven't gone to look at rastaban and intend look into the case further when I get a chance. Right now I'm on limited time so I just popped in to say "Hey, that post Prob keeps talking about isn't coming" and to see what Palmar had to say this morning.

In short, no...the fact that MZ put forth a case does not change my read on him. The quality/relevance of his case might, but the fact alone does not.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 19 2012 16:59 GMT
#1728
obviously the fact alone does not. i look forward to hearing back from you later then
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 19 2012 17:04 GMT
#1729
On July 20 2012 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
VE what do you make of MZ's case on rastaban, and does it alter your view of MZ at all?

This should go to Mattchew as well. MZ actually helping, or trying to look like he's helping?
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 19 2012 17:11 GMT
#1730
On July 20 2012 02:04 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
VE what do you make of MZ's case on rastaban, and does it alter your view of MZ at all?

This should go to Mattchew as well. MZ actually helping, or trying to look like he's helping?


stop asking questions until you decide to be helpful yourself
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 19 2012 17:37 GMT
#1731
On July 20 2012 01:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't like risk.nuke. I think part of it is his disgusting reaver portrait, but check it out:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=76576

His initial comments actually aren't that bad, viewed on their own-- he doesn't like chaos or chezinu, he calls out the bad day 1 reads thing, and he argues about about RL. But how much as he really added since that initial outburst of early game chatter?

Well, He drops a vote on Kurumi with some minimal discussion, since Kurumi is basically scum D1. He explains his vote.

And then... nothing. He drops a vote on austinmcc later as we get closer to the lynch deadline.

That's everything Risk.Nuke has done.




Now, I could imagine having a relatively quiet first half of D1, or maybe entire D1. But we're in D2 now, and after a whole night and nearly a third of D2, RN is unbelievably quiet. Why is that? It's not because he thinks there's nothing to talk about, I can assure you that-- he made a pretty long response to one of the opening posts when there was less activity: (link)

Risk.Nuke is alarmingly inactive-- he's posted no analysis, no reads, nothing. Since the end of D1 he's made two posts:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:
On July 19 2012 01:19 syllogism wrote:
I can't believe this game uses extended majority lynch. How was that a good idea

Don't blame the system when the fault lies in a dumb unorganized town.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 21:38 risk.nuke wrote:
We need to kill kurumi. For tomorrow I feel katina will bleed red. Will elaborate when I feel like it.


The first one is worthless, and the second one is (in the first half) self evident and (in the second half) completely left hanging.

What are you doing, risk.nuke?

why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum?

lol, I can't believe you believe in your post. But back to that in a second.

Well, why I'm doing jack shit right now. I know kurumi is scum and thanks to RoL beeing dumb he's still alive. And that is like having a pointy rock in my shoe. It's hard to motivate myself to focus on anyone else before it's gone.
And it may be day 2 but we haven't had a lynch yet. So it's only day 2 by name. We do not have a lynch to look at for information.

Your case reeks of hints that scream you don't believe I am scum so I'm very suspicious of why you've accused me.
Things in your post that make me doubt you believe in your case.
I don't like risk.nuke. I think part of it is his disgusting reaver portrait, but check it out:

You're beeing unserious when you're starting up your post.

You've left out that the reason I didn't do much chatting during the second half of day 1 was because I was working and therefor "unavailable" the entire day. Also If you look at my latest games you will see that I don't talk much during nights either. Anyway you keep ignoring that and just tries to hammer down a "this is all he's done under all this time". It's nice to conveniently leave out parts. I find that very odd and suspicious, especially since this is your main point against me.

Most importantly what I don't like is you never say you think I'm scum exept for in the very end where you very subtly include it in a nice tripple liner
why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum?
That's very weird because if you had never called me scum in the entire post it would had been so obvious scumpost where you try to make other people push townies for you. But you did accuse me of beeing scum but why is the scumaccusation so small and hidden?
This just feels like an attempt to divert towns attention from kurumi (who's near confirmed scum). My greatest fear is that people will second guess themselves on kurumi and botch his lynch again.

Now BH you got me excited. I hope I get a response from you soon why you've chosen to push an untrue case on me when there are plenty of cases out there who doesn't need to be twisted bent or seen from a false perspective. Is it because you're worried those actually are scum and you don't want to push real scum?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 19 2012 17:38 GMT
#1732
Anyone saying that my case on Bill Murray is too much based on meta did not read through it. It is clear from his fitler that he has not brought anything new to the table nor contributed anything. As I said his longest post was his little spiel about me but that only came after many others (sandroba, bugs, etc) laid out those arguments in full. He just repeated what others were saying. You can see from his past games that this matches up with his mafia play.

Bill Murray hasn't done anything this game. He's neither contributed nor done anything helpful. His attitude this game is very consistent with his mafia play.

Also I already explained my actions this game. If you want to sit there and call me mafia than go crazy, but don't expect me to respond unless you actually bring up a case.


And Probulous, you are seriously misguided if you are thinking about whether someone is an executive or not. Hypothetical scenario. Let's say we have a confirmed sane DT check someone and get back the result of mafia. How are you going to be able to tell whether that person is an executive or a minion? You can't. It's a waste of time to think about it. A mafia is a mafia.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 19 2012 17:40 GMT
#1733
Mattchew is Mafia. After catching up on the thread this morning he is still doing the exact same thing which is nothing.
He is still derping along and throwing at the random "Katina is scum, Let's kill her!!" post. Mattchew is making no real contribution to the thread.

Same goes for BM, he hasn't done any work and has been lacking in the thread. What you except out of BM has not been present. Except for some bad attempts to troll to get the pressure off of him a bit.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
July 19 2012 17:40 GMT
#1734
That's not stopping anyone else from contributing, Risk.Nuke. It didn't stop be from finding you.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
July 19 2012 17:41 GMT
#1735
In any case, feel free to do something, anything, to make any sort of case, or contribute to town in any meaningful way whatsoever. I breathlessly await the grand arrival of the pro-town Risk.Nuke-- he is still absent.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 19 2012 17:43 GMT
#1736
On July 20 2012 02:38 Foolishness wrote:
Anyone saying that my case on Bill Murray is too much based on meta did not read through it. It is clear from his fitler that he has not brought anything new to the table nor contributed anything. As I said his longest post was his little spiel about me but that only came after many others (sandroba, bugs, etc) laid out those arguments in full. He just repeated what others were saying. You can see from his past games that this matches up with his mafia play.

Bill Murray hasn't done anything this game. He's neither contributed nor done anything helpful. His attitude this game is very consistent with his mafia play.

Also I already explained my actions this game. If you want to sit there and call me mafia than go crazy, but don't expect me to respond unless you actually bring up a case.


And Probulous, you are seriously misguided if you are thinking about whether someone is an executive or not. Hypothetical scenario. Let's say we have a confirmed sane DT check someone and get back the result of mafia. How are you going to be able to tell whether that person is an executive or a minion? You can't. It's a waste of time to think about it. A mafia is a mafia.


you read his claim?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 19 2012 17:48 GMT
#1737
On July 20 2012 02:40 Katina wrote:
Mattchew is Mafia. After catching up on the thread this morning he is still doing the exact same thing which is nothing.
He is still derping along and throwing at the random "Katina is scum, Let's kill her!!" post. Mattchew is making no real contribution to the thread.

Same goes for BM, he hasn't done any work and has been lacking in the thread. What you except out of BM has not been present. Except for some bad attempts to troll to get the pressure off of him a bit.

You keep agreeing with Foolishness, who you, presumably, now believe is 100% mafia. Doesn't that concern you at all? Also, if Foolishness is mafia, don't you think you should focus a bit more attention ensuring that he gets lynched as he clearly presents a bigger threat than someone like BM? No matter how many times I push this point you keep ignoring him.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 19 2012 17:55 GMT
#1738
On July 20 2012 02:43 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 02:38 Foolishness wrote:
Anyone saying that my case on Bill Murray is too much based on meta did not read through it. It is clear from his fitler that he has not brought anything new to the table nor contributed anything. As I said his longest post was his little spiel about me but that only came after many others (sandroba, bugs, etc) laid out those arguments in full. He just repeated what others were saying. You can see from his past games that this matches up with his mafia play.

Bill Murray hasn't done anything this game. He's neither contributed nor done anything helpful. His attitude this game is very consistent with his mafia play.

Also I already explained my actions this game. If you want to sit there and call me mafia than go crazy, but don't expect me to respond unless you actually bring up a case.


And Probulous, you are seriously misguided if you are thinking about whether someone is an executive or not. Hypothetical scenario. Let's say we have a confirmed sane DT check someone and get back the result of mafia. How are you going to be able to tell whether that person is an executive or a minion? You can't. It's a waste of time to think about it. A mafia is a mafia.


you read his claim?

Yes. That doesn't change anything I've said.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 19 2012 17:57 GMT
#1739
On July 20 2012 02:38 Foolishness wrote:
Also I already explained my actions this game. If you want to sit there and call me mafia than go crazy, but don't expect me to respond unless you actually bring up a case.


yeah, instead of actually changing your vote as promised, you went and played LoL.

On July 19 2012 02:33 Foolishness wrote:
To VE: I always post a list of my reads right before night ends.



You did not do this nor have you explained not doing it.

You are totally uninvested this game, and further to this, you are simply a liar.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 19 2012 17:58 GMT
#1740
On July 20 2012 02:55 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 02:43 supersoft wrote:
On July 20 2012 02:38 Foolishness wrote:
Anyone saying that my case on Bill Murray is too much based on meta did not read through it. It is clear from his fitler that he has not brought anything new to the table nor contributed anything. As I said his longest post was his little spiel about me but that only came after many others (sandroba, bugs, etc) laid out those arguments in full. He just repeated what others were saying. You can see from his past games that this matches up with his mafia play.

Bill Murray hasn't done anything this game. He's neither contributed nor done anything helpful. His attitude this game is very consistent with his mafia play.

Also I already explained my actions this game. If you want to sit there and call me mafia than go crazy, but don't expect me to respond unless you actually bring up a case.


And Probulous, you are seriously misguided if you are thinking about whether someone is an executive or not. Hypothetical scenario. Let's say we have a confirmed sane DT check someone and get back the result of mafia. How are you going to be able to tell whether that person is an executive or a minion? You can't. It's a waste of time to think about it. A mafia is a mafia.


you read his claim?

Yes. That doesn't change anything I've said.


i'd rather say it supports your read...
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