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On July 19 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:
Deadline is in ~45 minutes. Waiting expectantly for Katina's case on Mattchew and Foolishness's reads.
You will get the case, don't worry.
On July 19 2012 08:21 syllogism wrote:
Pretty sure palmar is mafia as well. Some of his posts are very reasonable and I even agree with the a lot of content, but his tone and attitude is off. He is also putting in as little effort as possible and basically ignoring me and sandroba despite even at one point calling sandroba confirmed town. Yes this is a very lazy "case" and he probably won't be a lynch candidate tomorrow.
Yes... this is what I have been saying D1.....
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On July 19 2012 08:28 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 08:21 syllogism wrote:
Pretty sure palmar is mafia as well. Some of his posts are very reasonable and I even agree with the a lot of content, but his tone and attitude is off. He is also putting in as little effort as possible and basically ignoring me and sandroba despite even at one point calling sandroba confirmed town. Yes this is a very lazy "case" and he probably won't be a lynch candidate tomorrow. Syllo do you know why Palmar tends to post like this early on? I would swear that you once told me that players that are well regarded tnd to be so because they have strong day1 reads and that helps to carry them through the game. So what have you been doing about your day1 reads?
I've no idea what you are trying to say here, but whatever it is, it has no relevance to my read on Palmar.
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layabout gets called out for being lazy
fakes scumhunting
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On July 19 2012 08:30 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 08:28 layabout wrote:On July 19 2012 08:21 syllogism wrote:
Pretty sure palmar is mafia as well. Some of his posts are very reasonable and I even agree with the a lot of content, but his tone and attitude is off. He is also putting in as little effort as possible and basically ignoring me and sandroba despite even at one point calling sandroba confirmed town. Yes this is a very lazy "case" and he probably won't be a lynch candidate tomorrow. Syllo do you know why Palmar tends to post like this early on? I would swear that you once told me that players that are well regarded tnd to be so because they have strong day1 reads and that helps to carry them through the game. So what have you been doing about your day1 reads? I've no idea what you are trying to say here, but whatever it is, it has no relevance to my read on Palmar.
Do you know why Palmar is hiding all of his reasons for his reads?
Why are you sitting back and not acting upon your day1 reads given that "strong day1 reads" is one of the best "qualities"?
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On July 19 2012 08:33 Bill Murray wrote:
layabout gets called out for being lazy
fakes scumhunting
BM gets called out for playing anti-town as both alignments in nearly every game he plays
continues to play against the town wincon as town
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I was one of the only people who was actively trying to get a lynch near the end of the deadline
1) if i was mafia, in all likelihood, i wouldn't know most of my team and would want a no lynch
2) there are a high % of mafia so it helps town to achieve this goal
3) given 1 and 2, i am not only likely to be town, but have been actively trying to lynch and help the town
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Foolishness ponders getting on a proper wagon
Goes and plays LoL
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On July 19 2012 08:34 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 08:30 syllogism wrote:On July 19 2012 08:28 layabout wrote:On July 19 2012 08:21 syllogism wrote:
Pretty sure palmar is mafia as well. Some of his posts are very reasonable and I even agree with the a lot of content, but his tone and attitude is off. He is also putting in as little effort as possible and basically ignoring me and sandroba despite even at one point calling sandroba confirmed town. Yes this is a very lazy "case" and he probably won't be a lynch candidate tomorrow. Syllo do you know why Palmar tends to post like this early on? I would swear that you once told me that players that are well regarded tnd to be so because they have strong day1 reads and that helps to carry them through the game. So what have you been doing about your day1 reads? I've no idea what you are trying to say here, but whatever it is, it has no relevance to my read on Palmar. Do you know why Palmar is hiding all of his reasons for his reads? Why are you sitting back and not acting upon your day1 reads given that "strong day1 reads" is one of the best "qualities"?
Whatever he is hiding is due to him being lazy and/or mafia. There is no deeper strategy behind his play, except maybe trying to make sure he doesn't get shot by other mafia. If he is town he doesn't care.
As for the second question, I again don't understand but I wasn't confident about any of my reads except the read on foolishness and in general I don't like lynching potentially useful assets on day 1 and it didn't help that I had to waste time defending myself. Well, the main reason is that I'm very lazy.
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On July 19 2012 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Okay, several things: I can confirm that there is at least one messaging power that can be used on townies. I received this after the daypost: Show nested quote +Congratulations! You tripped down some stairs and hit your head. When you woke up, you realized that you were actually a member of the House Chezinu!
That's right! You are now part of the third party, House Chezinu! The first order of business is to get out there and make it known to the world! You'll need some more members to get this really rolling, so spread the word and get recruiting! Once a cycle, you may recruit someone. Simply type "##Recruit: <name> in the thread, and you will be able to recruit a new member! You may use this ability once per day! (Once per cycle, at night) However, you may only have a total of three members besides yourself.
You're part of House Chezinu, so you're above win conditions. (You're already part of House Chezinu, what more do you need to win?) But maybe you can unite the workers in a glorious revolution!
P.S., There's no House Chezinu like a house with Chezinu. Just sayin. And I confirmed with the host that this is a player-sent message. Secondly we have two near-confirmed scum in Kurumi and Zealos. If you're a vig or you have any sort of night KP it might be a good idea to kill them given that tomorrow will likely be a wash if they're alive.
Pick me Pick me!!!
first came 11, then 12, now 13 is on his way!
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On July 19 2012 06:52 Bill Murray wrote:
im on 69
mattchew is bad
wow! I am actually agreeing with BM... There must be something wrong!
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Before I die, I will like for everyone to know that you should read my posts. In them contains the answer that you will want to seek. That is all.
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Mattchew
First thing that I found interesting while looking through Mattchew's filter was that he is gunning to get me killed the whole game but when the nukes start getting thrown around he decides to do that.
On July 17 2012 11:46 Mattchew wrote:
TBH i have no idea if any of these nukes or blocks are real
like I do not knowingly have a nuke
##nuke Bill Murray
He sends the nuke on BM. It makes no sense to nuke him when he hasn't said a word about BM before this. This makes no sense if he wanted to kill me that badly.
On July 17 2012 13:44 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.
I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.
To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.
I will get back to you on Foolishness. Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable! I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you
Mattchew, sunk to Kurumi's level and nuked someone who hasn't posted. Furthermore policy lynches are stupid. His actions contradict each other. You have been gunning for me all game but you be willing to policy lynch a different person and nuke somone else entirely.
You have given us your reads but there is no elaboration. You said rastaban was Mafia twice but only said that was because he was looking out for himself, that's hardly a reason to call someone mafia. You did not want to kill gonzaw D1 but you didn't do anything to stop the votes from going over. Instead you sat there and watched it all happen, of course your vote got stolen but that shouldn't stop from telling everyone to vote for someone else instead.Futhermore you never commented on any of the big names in the thread. You have mentioned BH maybe once or twice, you never said anything about austin and as I said before you never talked about gonzaw for more than one post.
Looking through his filter he posts to make it look like he's doing something and contributing but in reality his posts don't say much of anything. Basically they are asking people the same "what do you think of this guy" "What do you think of this reponse" but not generating anything useful.
On July 17 2012 14:07 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 13:56 Katina wrote:On July 17 2012 13:44 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.
I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.
To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.
I will get back to you on Foolishness. Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable! I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you I really like how you convinently appear whenever I do. You haven't post reads on others nearly to the extent that you have on me. I would hardly call what you have been doing as generating dicussion. I think people have even forgotten that you were in the game. No one every says anything to you or about you. Just because no one talks to me doesnt mean I'm not trying to help discussions. People probably ignore me cause foolishness says so
It seems that Mattchew is using Foolishness' credibilty to get by with not saying much. Which seemed to be working apparently.
No one is really looking at Mattchew or listening to much of what he is saying in thread. (Can't blame you) Mattchew's play has been horrid this game and I am 100% percent certain that he is Mafia.
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On July 18 2012 14:05 Chezinu wrote:
Matt must be a secret vote changer role... he must be mafia
Hi Chez, I know we discussed this but can you give me any reason why mafia would want to change his vote if he was town? Bare in mind it ended up on BH right before the deadline. I assume the role is a scum role and I can see why Matt would use it on himself if he is scum. Why would scum use it, if Matt is town...
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On July 19 2012 08:55 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 14:05 Chezinu wrote:
Matt must be a secret vote changer role... he must be mafia Hi Chez, I know we discussed this but can you give me any reason why mafia would want to change his vote if he was town? Bare in mind it ended up on BH right before the deadline. I assume the role is a scum role and I can see why Matt would use it on himself if he is scum. Why would scum use it, if Matt is town...
You are misinterpreting my message. I meant he can only change his own vote secretly. Why do you want me to argue the opposite case?
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Someone could have stolen his vote
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Because I want to be sure. His play has been really underwhelming. Katina, pretty much nails it. But I want to be sure that there isn't something I am missing.
So what you are saying is that the role would be that he could ninja vote? Sounds like a dumb role to me. It is not like he could vote without getting noticed. Maybe I will just ignore it then 
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On July 19 2012 08:53 Katina wrote:
No one is really looking at Mattchew or listening to much of what he is saying in thread. (Can't blame you) Mattchew's play has been horrid this game and I am 100% percent certain that he is Mafia.
before I respond, do you realize how big of an asshole you are being?
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![[image loading]](http://greatdaygetaways.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/argh.gif) The Ravings of a Supressed VisceraEyes
Kurumi, layabout, Zealos, Foolishness, Meapak_Ziphh, syllogism
In order from who should be dead to who I'd be least comfortable lynching.
Kurumi is as good as dead, so I'm not gonna say much. He's our best lynch tomorrow if he lives the night. I will say however that given his new lease on life, he's not doing much in the way of scum hunting and appears more interested in discrediting those who are and sowing doubt.
layabout is still doing very little. He's subdued and not actively engaging people as I'd expect him to do. His comeback post
+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2012 10:35 layabout wrote:
Not game relevant:
I think i am going to take a break from TL mafia. I had looked forward to this game for some time but now it's happening i can't bring myself to care. At some point during the last game something inside just snapped. There were a number of reasons for it and i was going to make a thread but then real life kicked in and i haven't had the time. Yesterday was my first day back to myself and i spent most of it away from my computer and most of my computer time on Blacklight: Retibution.
In spite of this i hate nothing more than asshats that don't play or people that are exempt from trying/playing because "It's player soandso" so i will try.
After i die i will bugger off.
I began writing a long post but i am tired and it reads like dogpoo.
Following sandro since the last time... well it worked out pretty well for town.
##vote gonzaw
I am not sure how he can think that both foolishness and syllogism are scum. He seems to be looking at the thread from a very different viewpoint.
Reads mostly like an Appeal to Emotion. Like…why not /out of the game if "something snapped last game"? Rather than stay /in to the game and do fuck-all? I don't know, it doesn't make sense to me. Also he says that he's voting for Gonzaw because "He seems to be looking at the thread from a very different viewpoint" but fails to elaborate on how or why other than "I'm not sure how he can think that both Foolishness and syllogism are scum"…which is funny because at this point that's where I'm at too.
Zealos is playing very much like he did in MTG (I think?). I thought he was scum then for many of the same things I'm witnessing this game: lurking, not contributing, not caring about the lynch. I'd really like some of his thoughts in general, but he seems pigeonholed into posting about what's happening currently…which in my experience is a scum-tell (damage-control, attempting to look contributory, etc.) Also he appeals to emotion here:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 19 2012 05:25 Zealos wrote:
Well this is a fun game to play :3
Nothing major or concrete - just my read.
Foolishness is on my radar. He's not really contributing much. He's sitting back and casting doubt on anyone who's suspicious of him. It reminds me heavily of the play of BC in Storm. He's not a credible lynch for tomorrow, but keep eyes on the Foolish one.
syllogism is pinging my scumdar mainly because of his read on Palmar. I've got a pretty hefty town-read on Palmar, mainly based on his reads. However, the fact that syllo has a scum read on one of my town reads isn't really the core of the issue. The core is the fact that it's SYLLOGISM and he's basing his read on TONE AND ATTITUDE.
Syllo is logical to a fault (look at his fucking name!) He says that in spite of agreeing with a lot of the content Palmar puts out, he thinks he's scum based on tone and attitude. Further, he doesn't even really say WHAT ABOUT Palmar's attitude/tone is indicative of scum.
MZ is scummy. Isn't contributing much and is conveniently absent for the lynch (iirc...I might be wrong as I wasn't here for the latter part.) My weakest read but one of Palmar's strongest...which warrants his name being in red since we agree at least.
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On July 19 2012 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Someone could have stolen his vote
Why? That is what I am trying to work out.
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Syllo is town. Palmar is scum. Foolishness is scum.
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