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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 18 2012 20:51 GMT
#1461
Also VE, I am extremely happy to discuss practically anything with you, I've just not got the energy to discuss you thinking I'm scum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 18 2012 20:51 GMT
#1462
On July 19 2012 05:21 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 05:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 17 2012 05:56 Katina wrote:
On July 17 2012 05:22 Foolishness wrote:
Everyone should ignore Mattchew. He's so far off topic that I'm even going to do this Ace style:

Ignore List:
Mattchew
Chezinu - does anyone honestly ever read his posts?

Syllogism is mafia. Non-committal stances, doesn't even want to defend himself. Someone needs to redirect that nuke at marvellosity. And the next time Kurumi uses the phrase "actively lurking" someone should shoot him.

And before someone asks, Palmar is town. Mafia never propose stupid things like random lynches day 1.

##Vote: syllogism


Mafia does stupid things, Palmar does stupid things. Especially when he's Mafia or third party, your reasoning for that is "He can't be that stupid if he's Mafia". Why would you redirect the nuke at marv? I don't like the vote on syllogism right now, especially with your lack of reasoning behind it. You want to shoot Kurumi and redirect a nuke at Marv. Can you elaborate?

It seems that you are throwing around doubt and trying to side track people in your first post. You post one sentence about people who are scummy such as Kurumi (which you seem to have scummy feelings towards) and Palmar. You basically posted close to nothing just a sentence maybe two on a few people. I know you all too well, those are the things you taught me to do. I know you are Mafia love cake <3


Syllo this is one post I like from Katina.

I liked it too, but by this point it's outweighed by all the bad, in particular her last few posts. This just screams lazy mafia
Show nested quote +
I have my read on Foolishness and I will give it to you once I am 1--% percent sure of it. Right now I am only 85% sure of his alignment.

She went from "knowing [foolishness] is mafia" to basically ignoring him.


I just noticed this.
Hmm...that sounds odd.

Katina, what the hell did you mean by that?

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and perhaps that was just misunderstood.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 21:05 GMT
#1463
On July 19 2012 05:51 marvellosity wrote:
Also VE, I am extremely happy to discuss practically anything with you, I've just not got the energy to discuss you thinking I'm scum.


Well to be frank I wasn't really willing to discuss that either. YOU KNOW ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.

What about gonzaw then? His catchup post is....gosh, it's phenomenal and it has me doubting my read on him.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 18 2012 21:10 GMT
#1464
yeah, I like gonzaw's post. It's much more gonzawy. he was a 3rd or 4th choice lynch candidate yesterday and if we should listen to him if he's gonna make that kind of effort.

Naturally it helps that I think Foolishness is scum anyway.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 21:11 GMT
#1465
My thought is: actions. I want to see what actions gonzaw takes if he lives the night. Words are one thing (granted, a big thing considering how many fail to have even that) but actions are what my read is based on and his actions are going to be what either reaffirm or allay my suspicions.

gonzaw, I don't want to hear you complain one single solitary more time how big and intimidating the thread is. Your posts are often massive and a chore to read, so you coming in here complaining about how much you have to read is borderline insulting. Get over it. You knew how many games you were in, be a big boy and contribute if you want to live. Or don't and face the rope.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 18 2012 21:22 GMT
#1466
Anyone else really liking this idea, or some form of it?
On July 19 2012 02:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
We should have had 1) our target and 2) his/her counterwagon decided at least 12 hours before deadline...but it's D1 and we didn't, so there you have it.
For all the talk about how votes were swapped/the deadline sucked/no lynches suck, I think this was really the only suggestion that proposed a decent way of dealing with those problems. It's not perfect, but I feel like it's certainly better than all the swapping last night, and despite Foolishness's admonitions about vote swapping leading to no-lynches, we've got so many different reads being thrown around that the thread is clogged with options and I don't really see us doing a great job consolidating through that early on future days.

Maybe the deadline change helps with a few players, but as long as we enforce it, does anyone think that shaving off...maybe even 8 hours from the day cycle is going to lead us to a much worse lynch than a full 48 hours' discussion?

Fe fi fo fum.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#1467
VE/austin, please read pages 73-74 and tell me what you think of Zealos.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 21:25 GMT
#1468
*72-73
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 18 2012 21:27 GMT
#1469
Okay, several things:

I can confirm that there is at least one messaging power that can be used on townies. I received this after the daypost:

Congratulations! You tripped down some stairs and hit your head. When you woke up, you realized that you were actually a member of the House Chezinu!

That's right! You are now part of the third party, House Chezinu! The first order of business is to get out there and make it known to the world! You'll need some more members to get this really rolling, so spread the word and get recruiting! Once a cycle, you may recruit someone. Simply type "##Recruit: <name> in the thread, and you will be able to recruit a new member! You may use this ability once per day! (Once per cycle, at night) However, you may only have a total of three members besides yourself.

You're part of House Chezinu, so you're above win conditions. (You're already part of House Chezinu, what more do you need to win?) But maybe you can unite the workers in a glorious revolution!

P.S., There's no House Chezinu like a house with Chezinu. Just sayin.


And I confirmed with the host that this is a player-sent message.

Secondly we have two near-confirmed scum in Kurumi and Zealos. If you're a vig or you have any sort of night KP it might be a good idea to kill them given that tomorrow will likely be a wash if they're alive.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#1470
On July 19 2012 06:22 austinmcc wrote:
Anyone else really liking this idea, or some form of it?
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 02:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
We should have had 1) our target and 2) his/her counterwagon decided at least 12 hours before deadline...but it's D1 and we didn't, so there you have it.
For all the talk about how votes were swapped/the deadline sucked/no lynches suck, I think this was really the only suggestion that proposed a decent way of dealing with those problems. It's not perfect, but I feel like it's certainly better than all the swapping last night, and despite Foolishness's admonitions about vote swapping leading to no-lynches, we've got so many different reads being thrown around that the thread is clogged with options and I don't really see us doing a great job consolidating through that early on future days.

Maybe the deadline change helps with a few players, but as long as we enforce it, does anyone think that shaving off...maybe even 8 hours from the day cycle is going to lead us to a much worse lynch than a full 48 hours' discussion?



There's no way to enforce it as policy - I was talking about everyone having their own individual targets/subtargets by that time...which honestly most people did...it's just that the first day of the game was so chaotic with everything that was going on that there was no actual discussion about why we had the targets we did until really close to the lynch time...which seems to happen quite a bit around here anyway.

Austin you've come under some pretty heavy fire for some of your views on Sandroba. Do you have any reason to think that Sandroba is scum besides the fact that he's proven ballsy as scum and setup speculation? I have to say that I find Sand's posts to sound very town, and to be honest I think you're wearing my hat.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 21:31 GMT
#1471
Hiro I think probably scum but I want to see more than his cursory observation of the last few pages before I make an ultimate judgement one way or the other.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 21:33 GMT
#1472
On July 19 2012 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Okay, several things:

I can confirm that there is at least one messaging power that can be used on townies. I received this after the daypost:

Show nested quote +
Congratulations! You tripped down some stairs and hit your head. When you woke up, you realized that you were actually a member of the House Chezinu!

That's right! You are now part of the third party, House Chezinu! The first order of business is to get out there and make it known to the world! You'll need some more members to get this really rolling, so spread the word and get recruiting! Once a cycle, you may recruit someone. Simply type "##Recruit: <name> in the thread, and you will be able to recruit a new member! You may use this ability once per day! (Once per cycle, at night) However, you may only have a total of three members besides yourself.

You're part of House Chezinu, so you're above win conditions. (You're already part of House Chezinu, what more do you need to win?) But maybe you can unite the workers in a glorious revolution!

P.S., There's no House Chezinu like a house with Chezinu. Just sayin.


And I confirmed with the host that this is a player-sent message.

Secondly we have two near-confirmed scum in Kurumi and Zealos. If you're a vig or you have any sort of night KP it might be a good idea to kill them given that tomorrow will likely be a wash if they're alive.


Do me do me! ^^

Honestly, if Chez sent that to you then I want up in that piece.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 21:34 GMT
#1473
WBG is not the person I messaged.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 18 2012 21:35 GMT
#1474
On July 19 2012 05:44 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
pretty likely scum. from what i've seen he doesn't really afk as town yet he got himself modkilled as scum in LV for no apparent reason.

Flip flopping on BH due to his self-vote past the deadline. Now I don't particularly like that either, but it's not like he didn't admit to it straight away. Then he's justifying his read with the crap about influential town Kurumi.

clearly smacks of not reading the thread and if you're attempting to make a case knowing nothing about thread happenings then actually you're just shitting things up = scum.




Everyone please read the last 3/4 page with Zealos and his filter. He's scum.

Completely agree.

I'm glad we didn't end up lynching gonzaw. I've reread the parts I've skimmed and while I recognize that gonzaw hasn't been acting like his usual self, I do think the fact that he's playing in multiple games can account for some of it. Also his last post shows that he's paying attention and is at least trying to contribute which is more than can be said for some people.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 21:35 GMT
#1475
On July 19 2012 06:34 sandroba wrote:
WBG is not the person I messaged.


Okay so a redirect?

Is that the message you sent?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 18 2012 21:36 GMT
#1476
It doesn't look much like a sandroba message
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 18 2012 21:37 GMT
#1477
On July 19 2012 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Okay, several things:

I can confirm that there is at least one messaging power that can be used on townies. I received this after the daypost:

Show nested quote +
Congratulations! You tripped down some stairs and hit your head. When you woke up, you realized that you were actually a member of the House Chezinu!

That's right! You are now part of the third party, House Chezinu! The first order of business is to get out there and make it known to the world! You'll need some more members to get this really rolling, so spread the word and get recruiting! Once a cycle, you may recruit someone. Simply type "##Recruit: <name> in the thread, and you will be able to recruit a new member! You may use this ability once per day! (Once per cycle, at night) However, you may only have a total of three members besides yourself.

You're part of House Chezinu, so you're above win conditions. (You're already part of House Chezinu, what more do you need to win?) But maybe you can unite the workers in a glorious revolution!

P.S., There's no House Chezinu like a house with Chezinu. Just sayin.


And I confirmed with the host that this is a player-sent message.

Secondly we have two near-confirmed scum in Kurumi and Zealos. If you're a vig or you have any sort of night KP it might be a good idea to kill them given that tomorrow will likely be a wash if they're alive.

bugs it doesn't sound like you have a townie wincon anymore.

I had you as a pretty strong town read before so this is rather annoying.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 18 2012 21:38 GMT
#1478
what do you mean Meapak?

you don't think a message from another player changes his wincon surely??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 21:38 GMT
#1479
On July 19 2012 06:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Okay, several things:

I can confirm that there is at least one messaging power that can be used on townies. I received this after the daypost:

Congratulations! You tripped down some stairs and hit your head. When you woke up, you realized that you were actually a member of the House Chezinu!

That's right! You are now part of the third party, House Chezinu! The first order of business is to get out there and make it known to the world! You'll need some more members to get this really rolling, so spread the word and get recruiting! Once a cycle, you may recruit someone. Simply type "##Recruit: <name> in the thread, and you will be able to recruit a new member! You may use this ability once per day! (Once per cycle, at night) However, you may only have a total of three members besides yourself.

You're part of House Chezinu, so you're above win conditions. (You're already part of House Chezinu, what more do you need to win?) But maybe you can unite the workers in a glorious revolution!

P.S., There's no House Chezinu like a house with Chezinu. Just sayin.


And I confirmed with the host that this is a player-sent message.

Secondly we have two near-confirmed scum in Kurumi and Zealos. If you're a vig or you have any sort of night KP it might be a good idea to kill them given that tomorrow will likely be a wash if they're alive.

bugs it doesn't sound like you have a townie wincon anymore.

I had you as a pretty strong town read before so this is rather annoying.


You realize that's not a mod PM, meapak. It's likely a player sending a fake message...
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 21:39 GMT
#1480
No I didn't send that message.
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