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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 18 2012 00:49 GMT
#1061
On July 18 2012 09:46 sandroba wrote:
Too many scum this game. Must decide on one. Unless you can present a very good reason why gonzaw is not scum vote gonzaw. This game has 9 mafia right now and it's majority lynch so everyone needs to get behind the same lynch, not propose multiple ones. I'm sure a fair bit of you are right about your suspicions, but we must get behind one lynch to make sure it happens. I'm willing to let go of my suspects for now to get Gonzaw lynched and so must you.
##Vote Gonzaw

Lol what about austin? Atrocious.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 00:49 GMT
#1062
You must realize that the town is kinda split regarding BH and austin and it doesn't look like we gonna reach a consensus on this matter today. However Gonzaw has a fucking solid chance of flipping scum and I don't believe anyone can argue to the contrary. Let's kill this dude now go vote for him.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 00:50 GMT
#1063
And meta. Don't forget Probulous' meta analysis. ^^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7463 Posts
July 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#1064
ZZZZzzzz.....

Good night, guys.. will set alarm to in case we want to bandwagon the mafias.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#1065
Chez gonzaw gogogo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 00:53 GMT
#1066
@Blazinghand Here is the sum of what has been said about gonzaw and why I believe he is a solid lynch.

On July 18 2012 09:16 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:31 gonzaw wrote:
About austin:

I don't get why he's obsessing so much with sandro's role. I'd understand having that first suspicion if he actually believed something was wrong (like in that post I mentioned), but he spent posts and posts and posts dealing with sandro's claim and ability and it clogged up the thread too much.
I don't get why he'd do that as town, specially since his doubts of sandro's claim were dealt with by other people, he didn't need to keep cluttering things up with it.
There are little things that don't make me confident in him being scum, like some of the confidence he seems to have in his posts, and the fact that he "overposts" like this as town.
I'm not that confident in lynching him, but I think he has more chances of flipping scum than BH.

##Unvote: Foolishness
##Vote: austin


I don't see MZ being scum after skimming his filter.
Damn I don't have much time for this, this game is huge :/
After I come back from the gym I'll post more thoroughly

In case you were wondering why I singled out this post, I'll explain it to you. The first bit Gonzaw explains he is confused by poor austin's behaviour. It just doesn't make sense from a town point of view but damn it is cluttering up this thread that is so hard to read. But it is alight, there are some small things that make him "unconfident" that austin is scum (like WTF?), so he doesn't think he is scum. But hey why not lynch him, right?

Honestly can someone explain this sentence to me?
Show nested quote +
There are little things that don't make me confident in him being scum, like some of the confidence he seems to have in his posts, and the fact that he "overposts" like this as town.

Everything about it says Austin is town but he straight up votes for him? This is not townie Gonzaw.

On July 18 2012 09:30 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 09:24 Probulous wrote:
On July 18 2012 09:18 HiroPro wrote:
Wouldn't mafia want to kill you regardless of whether your ability is one-shot or not though, sandroba?


In addition to this, why would they NOT want to make sure their messages are from their superiors if your ability is only one shot? Like you said, there may be more than one of your role.

I get that the info provides a little certainty for mafia but in reality, it isn't much. Basically if austin is mafia he has sacrificed himself to ensure that his fellow scum members can safely receive messages tonight knowing their might be other ways that they are sabotaged? Reckless doesn't even begin to describe that behaviour.

I'll be here are lynch time, so if it comes down to a choice between Austin, BH and MZ, I will change my vote, but right now I think Gonzaw is a better lynch.


Probulous, I'll give you something, gonzaw does seem mafia this game. That post you quoted of his vote on austin. Think about it from a mafia perspective: you don't know if the guy you are voting for is mafia or town. You can't bus it hard since it may look bad if he flips green (inherent guilt), but you can't really be off the wagon that ends up lynching a mafia if that seems like it will happen regardless. Gonzaw's post does seem to reflect this state of mind.


Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
July 18 2012 01:01 GMT
#1067
Good enough for me.

##unvote
##vote: gonzaw
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 18 2012 01:01 GMT
#1068
On July 18 2012 09:49 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 09:46 sandroba wrote:
Too many scum this game. Must decide on one. Unless you can present a very good reason why gonzaw is not scum vote gonzaw. This game has 9 mafia right now and it's majority lynch so everyone needs to get behind the same lynch, not propose multiple ones. I'm sure a fair bit of you are right about your suspicions, but we must get behind one lynch to make sure it happens. I'm willing to let go of my suspects for now to get Gonzaw lynched and so must you.
##Vote Gonzaw

Lol what about austin? Atrocious.


What about him, you think he is town right? So surely this is a good thing?

Would you vote for Gonzaw Kurumi?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
July 18 2012 01:08 GMT
#1069
A bit less than 4 hours til the lynch I believe.
And so, we find the Sublime.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 18 2012 01:10 GMT
#1070
On July 18 2012 10:08 Protactinium wrote:
A bit less than 4 hours til the lynch I believe.


no, 3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 18 2012 01:11 GMT
#1071
seems i was wrong about the gonzaw wagon. i can't tell sandroba a reason gonzaw is town, so

##vote gonzaw
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
July 18 2012 01:11 GMT
#1072
On July 18 2012 10:10 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 10:08 Protactinium wrote:
A bit less than 4 hours til the lynch I believe.


no, 3


No.... 4 hours until midnight CDT.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 18 2012 01:12 GMT
#1073
Updated Vote Count

+ Show Spoiler +

Chezinu (0)
Blazinghand

Meapak_Ziphh (2)
wherebugsgo
Blazinghand
Chezinu
Kurumi
mattchew
kurumi
palmar
VisceraEyes

Kurumi (0)
marvellosity
sandroba
syllogism
marvellosity
wherebugsgo
HiroPro
supersoft
risk.nuke
Katina
Foolishness
Blazinghand
Palmar

Blazinghand (7)
sandroba
HiroPro
GGQ
HiroPro
wherebugsgo
Chezinu
rastaban
slOosh
Katina
marvellosity

syllogism (1)
Blazinghand
Palmar
Foolishness
Blazinghand
gonzaw
Probulous
Foolishness

GGQ (0)
Kurumi

Palmar (0)
Katina

Katina (0)
Mattchew
blazinghand

layabout (0)
wherebugsgo
Blazinghand
Blazinghand

HiroPro (0)
marvellosity

Sandroba (1)
austinmcc

austinmcc (5)
supersoft
wherebugsgo
Bill Murray
blazinghand
sandroba
syllogism
risk.nuke
gonzaw

Layabout (0)
VisceraEyes
Blazinghand

Foolishness (0)
gonzaw

Gonzaw (6)
Probulous
sandroba
VisceraEyes
Syllogism
Blazinghand
Palmar

No-Lynch (0)
Kurumi

Nonvoters (5)
layabout
Meapak_Ziphh
Q-bert-Z
RebirthOfLeGenD
Zealos
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 18 2012 01:13 GMT
#1074
On July 18 2012 10:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 10:10 marvellosity wrote:
On July 18 2012 10:08 Protactinium wrote:
A bit less than 4 hours til the lynch I believe.


no, 3


No.... 4 hours until midnight CDT.


sorry, i had sworn the time was supposed to be 5 BST tonight. must have missed something somewhere.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 01:16 GMT
#1075
sigh, let me read gonzaw's filter properly.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 18 2012 01:16 GMT
#1076
I'd prefer to vote for GGQ (or Sandro), but those aren't lynch options. Gonzaw looks like the candidate on the block now, and I'm okay with a gonzaw vote

On July 18 2012 04:17 gonzaw wrote:
@Palmar: Could you post why you think me, GGQ and others are scum? I agree about syllo and Foo, but that's not news at all.

...

I haven't read MZ, GGQ, austin, and other's but I will after I come home in a few hours.
Besides the other stuff that's been mentioned, here's Gonzaw giving some specific filters that he's going to read.

Gonzaw comes back from reading those with:
On July 18 2012 08:31 gonzaw wrote:
About austin:

I don't get why he's obsessing so much with sandro's role. I'd understand having that first suspicion if he actually believed something was wrong (like in that post I mentioned), but he spent posts and posts and posts dealing with sandro's claim and ability and it clogged up the thread too much.
I don't get why he'd do that as town, specially since his doubts of sandro's claim were dealt with by other people, he didn't need to keep cluttering things up with it.
There are little things that don't make me confident in him being scum, like some of the confidence he seems to have in his posts, and the fact that he "overposts" like this as town.
I'm not that confident in lynching him, but I think he has more chances of flipping scum than BH.

##Unvote: Foolishness
##Vote: austin


I don't see MZ being scum after skimming his filter.
Damn I don't have much time for this, this game is huge :/
After I come back from the gym I'll post more thoroughly

So he skimmed MZ, finds him townie. Looked at my filter, had mixed feelings, but still voted me. It feels a little off to me that he doesn't mention GGQ, the third player he was going to look at.

If GGQ is such an easy target, why not add GGQ? Why not mention you found him scummy? Does Gonzaw have feelings so mixed on GGQ that he looks better than me? That's a little hard for me to believe. I'm know I'm a topic of conversation at this point, but he still finds time to mention that he read MZ and give his read on MZ. Sort of makes it seem like he didn't read.

It ain't much, but it's something that stuck out to me beyond me just saying "I like non-austin targets, sheeping dat vote"

##vote: Gonzaw
Fe fi fo fum.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
July 18 2012 01:17 GMT
#1077
I'm still not entirely clear why you'd prefer Sandro
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 18 2012 01:22 GMT
#1078
I'll give you a hint. It's in my filter.

If kurumi flips green, I 100% drop it. If kurumi flips red, I'll continue to think that Sandro's power doesn't exist, that it's a fakeclaim, and that he's scum. I won't be as vocal about it for a while, because clearly that isn't going anywhere.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 18 2012 01:24 GMT
#1079
I must admit, I did miss tinfoilhatguy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 18 2012 01:24 GMT
#1080
On July 18 2012 10:22 austinmcc wrote:
I'll give you a hint. It's in my filter.

If kurumi flips green, I 100% drop it. If kurumi flips red, I'll continue to think that Sandro's power doesn't exist, that it's a fakeclaim, and that he's scum. I won't be as vocal about it for a while, because clearly that isn't going anywhere.

Shouldn't that be the other way around??
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
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