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On July 18 2012 09:25 marvellosity wrote: you're on drugs if you think 13 more people are gonna vote gonzaw in the next few hours Well with an attitude like that, sure. No thoughts on my case at all  | ||
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In the other corner, you have a Gonzaw who doesn't care at all but it is happy enough to pop in every now and then and post crap. Gonzaw knows this is detrimental to us in such a big game. When he does take the time to consolidate his post, they have nothing in common with his townie play. He even whinged that it took him three hours to post those essays but both of them are terrible. They are all soft questions and bad vote reasoning. It just doesn't follow. If you are town and you are pressed for time, you make sure that when you have it, you use it wisely. Gonzaw didn't even follow up on his questions he asked in those posts. I responded to his first major post immediately after he posted it and he just disappeared. | ||
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In the mean time I am going to take a closer look at MZ because I don't like the Austin lynch and BH is a complete black box to me. | ||
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What about him, you think he is town right? So surely this is a good thing? Would you vote for Gonzaw Kurumi? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Chezinu (0) Meapak_Ziphh (2) mattchew kurumi Kurumi (0) Blazinghand (7) GGQ HiroPro Chezinu rastaban slOosh Katina marvellosity syllogism (1) Foolishness GGQ (0) Palmar (0) Katina (0) layabout (0) HiroPro (0) Sandroba (1) austinmcc austinmcc (5) supersoft wherebugsgo Bill Murray risk.nuke gonzaw Layabout (0) Foolishness (0) Gonzaw (6) Probulous sandroba VisceraEyes Syllogism Blazinghand Palmar No-Lynch (0) Nonvoters (5) layabout Meapak_Ziphh Q-bert-Z RebirthOfLeGenD Zealos | ||
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Same to Katina, Mattchew and Chez? | ||
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On July 17 2012 06:22 gonzaw wrote: I just skimmed these last few pages and for first impressions I have to say Foolishness post seems quite scummy since he doesn't usually start playing like that as town (that was his 1st post right?) Absolute fluff. Your just waltz in say he is scummy because you think his play is different but you don't bother to tell us how it is different or how that makes it scummy. On July 17 2012 14:50 gonzaw wrote: The thing is that I get the feeling Foolishness is scum too :/ I didn't see the conviction from him in that 1st post of his. He was just babbling about lots of people in 1 or 2 sentences casting doubt all around without explaining himself one single bit. Although I kind of agree with his case on syllo, although he spends too much time focusing on "giving advice" when he hasn't done much like that in this game and has more incriminating stuff. The way he posts is not usual town Foo' either, where he tries to make sense of stuff and actually lead town. Also I would have thought Foolishness had read iGrok's game, or at least known Palmar was scum there. This is a little better but is essentially exactly what Katina wrote. Then when Foolishness follows up with a well thought out post it doesn't get a mention from you? This looks like you are trying to justify your read. On July 18 2012 04:17 gonzaw wrote: This is the kind of post I don't see town Foo' doing at all. He just mentions BH and adds some wishy-washy stuff about how he acted like this as 3rd party and concludes nothing at all. Foo' defending Palmar when Palmar was acting like a dick by saying things like "we can figure him out as scum by D3 if he has less than 6 pages of filter" is so stupid I can't believe a town Foo' would say that. I've posted about his earlier posts before. This is the best thing you have posted this game but it isn't a case. It is a single point WHICH YOU NEVER FOLLOW UP ON. Honestly you jump around unlike anything I have seen from you. Then when you do come back into the thread instead of straight up saying you are sheeping people you try and justify your vote with the worst possible logic ever. You are trying to find an excuse to vote for Austin rather than trying to find out if he is scum. You have had time. You have posted more than a few people this game, but what you have posted has been really scummy. When you had time, instead of clarifying your thoughts on Foolishness (your initial read) you jumped around without taking a stand which is completely different to how you normally play. All this points to you being scum. | ||
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Anyone not on Gonzaw is essentially voting for a no-lynch, which is why I would like someone to tell me why he is town? | ||
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4 You have 45 minutes to find 10 others. It just doesn't make sense. You should be trying to determine whether a Gonzaw lynch is better than a no-lynch because realistically those are the options right now. | ||
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On July 18 2012 11:24 GGQ wrote: Why did I vote BH at all? Because he was being active and throwing his vote around without doing anything and seemed very concerned with his own activity, as if it was justifying something. I believed and still believe he is scum. How is this stronger than the Gonzaw case? On July 17 2012 01:38 HiroPro wrote: I agree with sandroba: BH's posting looks very artificial. His reasoning for ignoring Probulous doesn't make sense: Probulous's question is not invalid just because BH switched targets. And his logic for thinking that sandroba/syllo are scum is laughable. ##Vote Blazinghand So he ignored me and then made up a bad reason for it? I've dropped it, so did Sandroba. If you are sheeping Sandroba why do you feel BH is a better lynch even though Sandroba does not? On July 17 2012 15:51 Chezinu wrote: WBG FTW!!! Your sanity eases my mind. I've been trying to kill blazinghand since the very begining of this game. First I attempt to send a minion to kill him, but that ended up failing. Then I shoot a nuke at him, but then he blocks it. This time though, I think I can lynch him. The TimeWarper's words are ringing true. I would love to give QBZ thanks for that,  . Being SILLY is Fun!##Unvote ##Vote BlazingHand ... Nevermind, you do your thing On July 17 2012 05:18 rastaban wrote: I like the case on BH better than the on Mz right. I feel GGQ is right in his assessment that mafia will use the lack of ties to make them more bold in their case rather than second guessing. Look at my play as Serial Killer, I decided to try and play as pro town as possible, I ended up going overboard and tunneling risk.nuke in my effort. I feel like MZ's caution is the sign of town who wants to get things right rather than scum who wants to get the day over with. Think about it we still have more than 24 hours of discussion to go. As others have also pointed out, he is also trying too hard to find reasons for his votes, it makes them seem fake. ##vote blazinghand BH is being bold, that is literally the reason you are voting for him? We no longer have more than 24 hrs so why is this a better case than Gonzaw? On July 17 2012 23:03 slOosh wrote: I've been thinking about the setup and I think Palmar nails it here. Basically everyone beside 3 CEOs are uninformed majority, and even they only know a fraction of their whole team. Thus all scum will be scared of pushing / lynching / hitting each other ala shooting GGQ in sleeper II, and so more than anything they will be focusing on survival. BH fits this mold. WBG explains here. ##Vote: BlazingHand I have already pointed out that everyone is going to be focused on survival. I don't understand Palmar's point and he never clarified it. No-one has told me why a townie would not be focused on surviving. It is much harder to prove your alignment this game so surviving if you are town is probably a decent strategy as opposed to, I don't know, dying? On July 18 2012 06:44 Katina wrote: There is no way there will be a Foolishness or a Sandroba lynch today. Syllogism, or Blazinghand is most likely at this point maybe Austin (depends on everyone else)...Right now both Syllogism and Blazinghand is near the top of my suspicion list and these two are the main candidates for lynch today. Blazinghand hasn't been around in for a bit while Syllogism has been here trying to defend himself and push his suspicions of Foolishness (Who is also scummy to me) I would like to give Syllo another day and see what happens. So I will be voting for Blazhinghand today. I'm sure enough about austin yet to consider him a lynch candidate today I will wait and see what happens later on. ##Unvote Kurumi ##Vote Blazinghand Depending on his flip and who dies during the night hopefully we will have a more organized D2. Which is the biggest load of hogwash ever. He is suspicious, because? Oh I get it, he is suspicious because he is suspicious...  If you guys are going to push this wagon then please give me a reason to vote for BH cause right now the only one who has tried this is bugs and I fundamentally disagree with his logic on BH's response to the nuke. | ||
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On July 18 2012 12:36 Chezinu wrote: I told my minions to kill BH today and gonzaw tomorrow. But it seems they want to kill gonzaw now... Oh why did I have to rage at gonzaw and in turn began the wagon.. I know, it was your post that made me go and reconsider my earlier doubts about him. So for that, thank you. Given this On July 18 2012 06:35 sandroba wrote: So yeah, let's lynch austin. Leaves us more time to think about BH/Laya, which I'm not entirely positive on being scum yet. and this On July 18 2012 09:46 sandroba wrote: Too many scum this game. Must decide on one. Unless you can present a very good reason why gonzaw is not scum vote gonzaw. This game has 9 mafia right now and it's majority lynch so everyone needs to get behind the same lynch, not propose multiple ones. I'm sure a fair bit of you are right about your suspicions, but we must get behind one lynch to make sure it happens. I'm willing to let go of my suspects for now to get Gonzaw lynched and so must you. ##Vote Gonzaw Anyone who is sheeping Sandroba should be on Gonzaw. | ||
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On July 18 2012 12:40 rastaban wrote: @ prob. I originally voted bh before the Nuke business. He was very aggressive from the start. It reminded me of my play as sk when trying to be town. Combine this with his statement on how he felt he was so town that the only way some one would vote for him is if he was scum. His arguments also didnt seem organic but like someone trying to hard. The nuke issue merely helped confirm it for me, when he began prioritizing his own survival. What part of the nuke logic do you not agree with? That him blocking it makes him scum. I can see a rash townie using whatever means they have to defend themselves from imminent death. Yes waiting for confirmation would have been better but we had already seen one nuke go off, so BH not immediately doubting Chez does not, in my mind, make him scum. | ||
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Why respond if he thinks he can just get away with ignoring it. Sandroba didnt unvote because he stopped believing bh was scum; he did so because he didnt think there was enough support for a lynch. And unlike you I actually think wbg 's argument is valid. Sandro's filter says otherwise. On July 18 2012 06:35 sandroba wrote: So yeah, let's lynch austin. Leaves us more time to think about BH/Laya, which I'm not entirely positive on being scum yet. | ||
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