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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 16:05 GMT
#3551
Why is BM voting SS?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 16:08 GMT
#3555
##nuke zealous
I Don't have a nuke though.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 16:29 GMT
#3559
I refuse to cooperate? I'm going to do what I feel is right. Get that straight. If you don't like what I do you're welcome to try to lynch me.

I've had alot to do this week. Now it would had simplified things for me greatly if some of you guys didn't use this thread as your personal irc-toilet. We're almost at 200 pages and most of it (90%+) is useless. But don't blame me for having a hard time when I'm spending atleast an hour each day on this and still can't keep up.

Syllo why are you so suspiciously defending zealos. You don't call him scum (despite him beeing scummy as hell), you never defend him but you do ALOT of diverting attention from him.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 17:06 GMT
#3566
Sloosh did you have any power?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 17:13 GMT
#3571
On July 27 2012 02:03 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
Go along with what risk.nuke and Foolishness are saying. The votes were moving all over the place day 1, and people need to be held accountable.


Well this directly seems to incriminate risk, but given that risk hasn't really said anything useful at all and they knew about the traitor, it could just be there to throw us off.

Try to twist and turn it. It's just bullshit that that would incriminate me. He's saying do this to appear pro-town and blend in. Are you suggesting that his boss would tell him to sheep other scum?

What to read out of this is that Sloosh's boss is a person who thought foolishness was town and that foolishness boss thought I was town.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 17:14 GMT
#3573
On July 27 2012 02:13 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 02:03 syllogism wrote:
Go along with what risk.nuke and Foolishness are saying. The votes were moving all over the place day 1, and people need to be held accountable.


Well this directly seems to incriminate risk, but given that risk hasn't really said anything useful at all and they knew about the traitor, it could just be there to throw us off.

Try to twist and turn it. It's just bullshit that that would incriminate me. He's saying do this to appear pro-town and blend in. Are you suggesting that his boss would tell him to sheep other scum?

What to read out of this is that Sloosh's boss is a person who thought foolishness was town and that sloosh's boss thought I was town.

corrected
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 17:18 GMT
#3580
On July 27 2012 02:17 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 02:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Commutor - that makes someone not able to be targeted at night right? Syllo didn't you say you survived the night?

I'm not going to discuss how I survived the night. I'm very obviously town and you are not helping.

##vote syllogism
tell me how you survived the night.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 17:33 GMT
#3587
We shouldn't kill sloosh now. The very least he can give opinions that we know are from a confirmed town.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 18:14 GMT
#3612
still waiting for your explanation syllo
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 19:45 GMT
#3681
On July 27 2012 04:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 27 2012 04:29 HiroPro wrote:
-_- Are you fucking kidding me MZ. What is the point of claiming cop? What the hell does telling us that sloosh showed up as red tell us.

The point of claiming cop is that I am a cop. I'll check gonzaw or zealos or whoever you guys want tonight.

Don't the ones we know or feel strongly are red, check someone who's likely to survive untill lategame. Like me.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 20:35 GMT
#3690
##Unvote
##Vote: slOosh
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 26 2012 23:04 GMT
#3751
##nuke zealos
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 29 2012 21:53 GMT
#4098
Hey, I'm back. I've been at Närcon. Due to mishappens I have not had any internet acces. And honestly I wasn't very worried about the game. Then I get home and I see this storm. I'm obviously beeing framed. I don't have a power like that and personally I don't buy austins roleclaim that allows you to intercept messeges. It just sounds to powerfull for this setup. It looks a hell of alot more like a desperate trick the scumteam is pulling. Especially since it's coming from Austin.

Weather or not it incriminates Gonzaw I'm not sure. It's just so convenient that after he posts his fake-pm he instantly figures out who's writing style it is. Seems much more likely that he planted the gonzaw-signs himself. Unfortuantly I didn't come back in time to say this soon so I can't avert his lynch so I guess we will find out gonzaws alignment shortly but I'm bracing myself for a greenflip.
##vote: austin
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 29 2012 22:05 GMT
#4101
On July 30 2012 07:01 gonzaw wrote:
You do realize that rastaban claimed the exact same thing before right?

sorry, could you link where this is?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 30 2012 11:25 GMT
#4176
Chezinu pls
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 31 2012 21:01 GMT
#4354
I did start out enjoying this game but it didn't last long. The problem was this game was to hard to play as scum. This game felt like the easiest walk in the park for town because scum needs to figure themselves out, so if they think someone is scum they can't push for their lycnhes unless you want to buss every day. So breaking the game... See who doesn't push scummy people. Kill those people. During day 1 I believed. Layabout, Foolishness, Bill Murray, Gonzaw, Meapak, GGQ, Q-bert-Z and Palmar was mafia. Which was 6/8 correct. The same thing goes with town. If you attacked scummy behavior you pretty much cleared yourself because scum couldn't do this. Supersoft, prob, vicera etc and more did this and was obv-town.

Though maybe we just played poorly. I'd like to hear more from the hosts how we should had played. And don't give me any you need to organise yourselves better nonsense or you were lazy. Speak specifics please, what should we had done. How should we had used our powers.

Looking at the powerroles. The scum powers sucked. We had 1 kp, 1 pardon a pm power and kp to kill the traitor. My own powers only usefullness I guess seemed to be if we lost all top communication. I planned on using it to claim 1-shot cop which reveals the alignment in the daypost. Though that failed when people started posting scum pm's all over the thread because apparently town had pm-cops.
Against this the town had all sorts of stuff from promotion powers (double lynch) to BM's votestealer/cop role and this is what I really disliked and what absolutely ruined the whole setup for me. PM-spying powers that was good as hell. And worst of all we had no idea about roles like that existed so how the hell do we defend ourselves against that. It wasn't as if our communcation was crippled enough.

So as I said if I'm just wrong and dumb please tell me because right now I'm just feeling petty and angry because I don't feel this setup was fair.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 31 2012 22:08 GMT
#4365
On August 01 2012 06:54 Probulous wrote:
The problem with killing half your team as scum as you cannot be sure they are on the same half. If you kill all your minions you lose both the numbers advantage and your abilities. Once you have effectively your team town would be rightly suspicious if you start lynching townies at an alarming rate.

This game is fundamentally hard for scum. I am surprised no mafia went solo and just ignored all PM communication. You know play as a townie. Town needed to kill every scum so it was worth a shot. Especially with the number of scum around.

Wow, you really don't have any clue what you're talking about. If a scum goes solo-bus mode he could even get killed by his teammates. And even so his chances are 1/3 to beat the townies in that game. And still get busted by pm-cops.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
August 01 2012 15:37 GMT
#4432
On August 01 2012 23:50 strongandbig wrote:
So if that power could be confused with mod confirmation it would be way OP. You could just have it say
Show nested quote +
risk.nuke the innocent child has revealed himself!

and gg.

What I assume the hosts actually mean with that power is that the day post would include something like
Show nested quote +
A message has been left in the night! It says:.......

I asked them and It would say A message from the broadcaster: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
August 01 2012 19:01 GMT
#4444
On August 02 2012 03:05 Q-bert-Z wrote:
Should have tried to get people to think it was a police radio. Give like, one or two checks to clear one guy, or incriminate another. Give a red check on someone to bus them, then a green check on yourself to confirm yourself as town. Would have bee. Fairly believable because a DT check on someone who is highly suspected is totally normal, and it works out nicely because you bus someone who is already likely to die, and will certainly flip soon after your broadcast. His flip will confirm the legitimacy of the police radioish role.

Read what I said.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
August 01 2012 20:36 GMT
#4447
If it wasn't clear already I had decided to use the power. However I pretty clearly couldn't use a message from the broadcaster when the word broadcaster role was so tightly connected with scum.

Still waiting for aftertalk and thoughts from hosts regarding the setup.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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