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On July 17 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 03:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 17 2012 03:13 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there. cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town That's bullshit and you know it lol. you have said the word "chaos" or talked about town stability in almost every post you have made. Did you elect yourself town peacekeeper? Because basically every one of your posts has extremely little to do with actually finding and lynching scum
Actually I'm playing smart and waiting until I have a solid case before I go after someone. In contrast, you have your idiotic crusade against katina and that's it. Discussion should be currently centered around Palmar for his inability/refusal to play. BH should be a secondary consideration for his random wild play. And of course I still haven't forgot chez and the smurf, I'm interested to see if they start playing as well.
This may come as a shock but it's not always a good idea to shit up the thread with random cases. My lack of a formal "case" is way better than your little spat with Katina.
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On July 17 2012 03:33 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 03:29 austinmcc wrote:
Matt, your case on Katina is wrong, regardless of what alignment she is.
I posted that bit from iGrok's game. Some of the players in this game played in that game. At least one of the players here read that game closely. If a random lynch is pro-town because it generates information until you pull back the curtain, then it functions differently here, because the curtain is already pulled back (it took all of like 30 seconds to find that post). Can't assume that he's throwing out the random lynch idea for he same reason as normal.
Katina may be wrong about some bits of her case on Palmar, but I think you're also wrong about her.
I don't think you are correct. I think Palmar was doing EXACTLY what he said in that other game and is pissed that you quoted him from it, thus revealing his curtain
This is my point about Palmar. There's a script for what he's doing and he decided to go off of it. Look at the list of people I asked him about and reference that with the play from the other game. You'll understand why I want him in here right now answering me.
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I'm going out, be back in a few hours.
If Palmar shows his face hold his feet in the fire until he answers my post.
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lol sandroba that was beautiful.
##Vote: Kurumi
So let's talk about tomorrow. My assumptions are that Chez will continue trolling and that Palmar will continue to be worthless but let's broaden our horizons. Blazinghand and rastaban spring to mind, BH has been discussed a fair bit but I'll shed some light on rastaban. Some of his greatest his include posts like this: On July 16 2012 23:32 rastaban wrote:Caught up now, thoughts so far: First off the random vote is a bad idea, normally the reason it is used is to eliminate mafia influence, but guess what the mafia don't know who each other are so this lynch will be without their influence anyway. We have a golden opportunity to have a lynch today with mafia having to base their judgments on reads, and make hard choices while not able to communicate. Fellow employees do not squander this opportunity! This leads to my second point, Lynching scum doesn't put someone in the clear, especially this early in the game. They don't know who each other is so they can lynch themselves, so look for sound reasoning not just who they voted for. @ HiroPro Third yes mafia only has 1 KP see: Show nested quote +Extra Information:
The mafia kill process goes like this:
Every day, all mafia members except for the CEO send in a name on who they wish to kill. Then, the CEO must choose to kill one player on the list by the night deadline. Fourth, While I think a Policy lynch on claiming blues is bad, I do think you bring up a very valid point. As you mention 1 for 1 may not be a bad trade for them so I think we should certainly be extra wary of any claimants and possibly lynch the claimant if it seems fishy, but I think a Policy is going a bit too far. OK so thats my setup review / plans post, I am now working on locating scum so I will follow up in a bit with my thoughts on who to lynch.
This:
On July 17 2012 00:15 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 00:08 Kurumi wrote:On July 17 2012 00:06 HiroPro wrote:That's why I want the random lynch to be right before the half-cycle  Cycle is day-night. Half cycle is either day or night. They probably can communicate right now. Mind you, that's only 3 messages. CEO-High Rank-Minion and High Rank-Minion. And they get only 1 shot to do so, so they will need to wait before sending it out. and it sounds like names are restricted in someway as well. Say we start to lynch a minion, then only 1 other person knows he is mafia (the high rank) at most he can probably say don't let this lynch go through. and it gets sent to the other 2 minions, but only if he hadn't said anything before that. or he won't even be able to say that. They also need to wait to hear from the leader or they can't forward on his message. This means more confusion as they have to wait later to try and save someone. This is why this lynch is so unique and a great shot for us to lynch scum. (full disclosure, I forgot they could send one message now though, which is why I said they would have no impact in my previous post)
And this:
On July 17 2012 05:18 rastaban wrote:
I like the case on BH better than the on Mz right. I feel GGQ is right in his assessment that mafia will use the lack of ties to make them more bold in their case rather than second guessing. Look at my play as Serial Killer, I decided to try and play as pro town as possible, I ended up going overboard and tunneling risk.nuke in my effort. I feel like MZ's caution is the sign of town who wants to get things right rather than scum who wants to get the day over with. Think about it we still have more than 24 hours of discussion to go.
As others have also pointed out, he is also trying too hard to find reasons for his votes, it makes them seem fake.
##vote blazinghand
What traits to these posts share? They're extremely wishy-washy, there's a lot of setup speculation, and his current vote was part of a bandwagon where he was merely parroting other's opinions.
I'll continue to keep my eye on my other little fishes but they've been well discussed unlike rastaban who has been skirting the radar. Thoughts? (people who read the thread only please).
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lol that's a dick move chez
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so bugs, a tl;dr of that post would be "syllo is scum but let's not kill him."
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I think the part where probulous and I got hung up is how you focus most of your post on syllo and provide reasons why he's scum, then tell us we should actually kill layabout and give no reasons.
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On July 17 2012 10:33 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I think the part where probulous and I got hung up is how you focus most of your post on syllo and provide reasons why he's scum, then tell us we should actually kill layabout and give no reasons. whoa, why are you speaking FOR probulous? holy shit are you scum with Probulous? Probulous never mentioned that post, he hasn't replied to it yet. Also I already elaborated on why layabout is scum in the post before that. So, #1. You're talking for someone else #2. You're not reading the thread you really are scum!
honest mistake bugs, we're all templar icons and I just glazed over it before I posted.
And besides, the scenario of us being scum like that doesn't work -_-
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I'm kinda hamstrung until rastaban gets back so in the meantime I'll throw my name in with the people who want BH dead.
On July 17 2012 11:20 Blazinghand wrote:WBG, after some thought, I agree with you. Although syllogism strikes me as scummy, Layabout is irredeemably so. Examining his filter (link) I cannot in good conscience NOT vote him. This is a big game and he's trying to skate by. Syllogism's posting history, while unfavorably comparable with the droppings of a flock of diuretic parrots, greatly outdoes Layabout's simply on strength of its existene. Layabout is trying to skate by. We can't let that happen. ##unvote
##vote: layabout
BH is really just going for whoever is currently the flavor of the hour, if you look at his posts he's simply flipped whenever thread opinion has changed. Also his reasons for voting people have been very sheepy, he's been gunning for syllo for the better part of the game but all of a sudden bugs waltzes in with a case and BH flips again.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand
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Glad people are paying attention and voting BH.
Posts like this though are a problem. The last thing we want is to give scum more information on sandro's role.
On July 18 2012 00:31 austinmcc wrote:
Voting sandroba until he reveals his power.
Don't waste your vote like that, try and do something productive.
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On July 18 2012 03:17 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 11:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I'm kinda hamstrung until rastaban gets back so in the meantime I'll throw my name in with the people who want BH dead. On July 17 2012 11:20 Blazinghand wrote:WBG, after some thought, I agree with you. Although syllogism strikes me as scummy, Layabout is irredeemably so. Examining his filter (link) I cannot in good conscience NOT vote him. This is a big game and he's trying to skate by. Syllogism's posting history, while unfavorably comparable with the droppings of a flock of diuretic parrots, greatly outdoes Layabout's simply on strength of its existene. Layabout is trying to skate by. We can't let that happen. ##unvote
##vote: layabout BH is really just going for whoever is currently the flavor of the hour, if you look at his posts he's simply flipped whenever thread opinion has changed. Also his reasons for voting people have been very sheepy, he's been gunning for syllo for the better part of the game but all of a sudden bugs waltzes in with a case and BH flips again. ##Unvote##Vote: Blazinghand MZ while you are here, mind explaining that first line? You never even asked me a question, so how was I hamstringing your efforts while I was gone?
You've been very careful and useless so far this game however I don't think I could have made a convincing case on you with your 4 or so posts you had at the time I made my post. You've subsequently posted a little more however they've been just as worthless. I don't think I have enough time to get you lynched today but I'll definitely make a move tomorrow.
On July 18 2012 03:17 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 03:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Glad people are paying attention and voting BH. Posts like this though are a problem. The last thing we want is to give scum more information on sandro's role. On July 18 2012 00:31 austinmcc wrote:
Voting sandroba until he reveals his power. Don't waste your vote like that, try and do something productive. is this poor attempt to look useful by austin a scumtell or is he just useless all the time?
Tough call, if austin was a better player/I knew his town play better I'd say it's a scumtell because of just how bad it is, maybe even a signalling attempt at fellow mafia. However that seems a bit too far fetched to me so I'm going to go with useless for now.
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On July 18 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 03:17 supersoft wrote:On July 18 2012 03:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Glad people are paying attention and voting BH. Posts like this though are a problem. The last thing we want is to give scum more information on sandro's role. On July 18 2012 00:31 austinmcc wrote:
Voting sandroba until he reveals his power. Don't waste your vote like that, try and do something productive. is this poor attempt to look useful by austin a scumtell or is he just useless all the time? he's not useless at all what do you think of MZ
Well like I said, I have no idea if he's a guy who will whip out the entire scum team on day 2 or if he's just another kenpachi style practitioner. If it's the former I'd have to say he's scum but my guess is that it's the later and that he's just useless.
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On July 18 2012 03:31 marvellosity wrote:
Meapak, you don't think rastaban is posting similarly to Bang Bang?
I just went through his filter and I have to say I disagree. He posts a lot more in BB and they're somewhat casual as well. rastaban feels a lot more guarded this game. He certainly wasn't the most active person in BB but he averaged like double his current posts per day in that game compared to this one.
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On July 18 2012 04:14 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 03:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 18 2012 03:17 rastaban wrote:On July 17 2012 11:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I'm kinda hamstrung until rastaban gets back so in the meantime I'll throw my name in with the people who want BH dead. On July 17 2012 11:20 Blazinghand wrote:WBG, after some thought, I agree with you. Although syllogism strikes me as scummy, Layabout is irredeemably so. Examining his filter (link) I cannot in good conscience NOT vote him. This is a big game and he's trying to skate by. Syllogism's posting history, while unfavorably comparable with the droppings of a flock of diuretic parrots, greatly outdoes Layabout's simply on strength of its existene. Layabout is trying to skate by. We can't let that happen. ##unvote
##vote: layabout BH is really just going for whoever is currently the flavor of the hour, if you look at his posts he's simply flipped whenever thread opinion has changed. Also his reasons for voting people have been very sheepy, he's been gunning for syllo for the better part of the game but all of a sudden bugs waltzes in with a case and BH flips again. ##Unvote##Vote: Blazinghand MZ while you are here, mind explaining that first line? You never even asked me a question, so how was I hamstringing your efforts while I was gone? You've been very careful and useless so far this game however I don't think I could have made a convincing case on you with your 4 or so posts you had at the time I made my post. You've subsequently posted a little more however they've been just as worthless. I don't think I have enough time to get you lynched today but I'll definitely make a move tomorrow.... So of all the cases made and discussed so far, you think lynching me for not being active is the best choice, an interesting opinion... I also I can't help but notice that you are also in the lynch BlazingHand camp now glad to see you are at least working to lynch scum today.
I wanna lynch you for acting scummy. You have very few posts of substance to your name. And please, don't twist my words. I want to kill blazinghand today, he's a better option than you.
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austin you're making it rough for me to continue to think you're clueless.
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On July 18 2012 04:59 HiroPro wrote:
I can't tell if austin really believes this or not...
austin, can you give me a scum read based on behavior and not just on setup speculation.
yes this please -_-
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hi I'm here and I and I want a lynch. I had ~15 pages to read in 20 minutes so I may have missed finer points but I notice that sandroba supports a gonzaw lynch so I will be happy with that or BH.
If Matt's vote has been irrevocable placed on gonzaw then we need to see if we have enough people who will switch to gonzaw.
Anyone who will not cooperate with the lynch I will instantly consider scum.
Who's active and can change their vote right now?
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Probulous
Chezinu
Hiropro
Sandroba
Meapak
That's what we have to work with right now. If we all switch we can kill gonzaw.
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On July 18 2012 13:39 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 13:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hi I'm here and I and I want a lynch. I had ~15 pages to read in 20 minutes so I may have missed finer points but I notice that sandroba supports a gonzaw lynch so I will be happy with that or BH.
If Matt's vote has been irrevocable placed on gonzaw then we need to see if we have enough people who will switch to gonzaw.
Anyone who will not cooperate with the lynch I will instantly consider scum.
Who's active and can change their vote right now? so we are two votes from lynching BH and you want everyone to go the other way? To the side where people are stealing other peoples votes and using dirty tricks? uhh
Unless I am mistaken there aren't two active votes we can get to kill BH. I would rather have BH die, but I also trust sandro's judgement. I'm in the process of carefully reading what I've skimmed to see if I find anything glaring that I don't like about the gonzaw case but it's imperative that we lynch. The only reason I can think of for the scum to use a power like this is if they're trying to force a no lynch so let's not let that happen.
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