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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 05 2012 06:44 GMT
#29
I have some time.

/in
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#50
yeah GGQ!
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 10 2012 04:11 GMT
#78
On July 10 2012 09:53 kitaman27 wrote:
That picture of VE and BH looks suspiciously close to the mafia communication structure!

/in

My Archon buddy!

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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 10 2012 18:08 GMT
#96
3 more unless my math is bad.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 11 2012 18:09 GMT
#105
lol blazinghand that's how smurfs work...
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 06:40 GMT
#201
I've been out of my fix for far too long, it's about time we got this started :D

People are being shy violets right now but I like what probulous has posted thus far.

Looking back at PYP insane, Chez tried to look as scummy as possible and people passed it off as "just chez being chez." Looking at his opening post I almost feel like a similar theme is in the offing. It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post but I just want to put this out there, especially since there since foolishness and I are the only other people who were in that game so he may feel he can get away with it again.

gotta get out dat FoS: Chezinu
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 06:44 GMT
#205
On July 16 2012 15:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post ...

FoS: Chezinu


._.

What part of FoS is me calling Chez scum?

Can you tell me what FoS means?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 06:49 GMT
#212
On July 16 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote:
To add to my previous post, which is unreasonably short: That's awfully irresponsible of you, M_Z. Are you FoSing him without calling him scum? Way to take any air whatosever out of your FoS. You're probably worried that you'll be told by your overlords that he's scum with you and you want an excuse not to vote him later.

##unvote
##vote: Meapak_Ziphh

lulz didn't scroll.

So apparently I need to define FoS. Stands for Finger of Suspicion. Gives a heads up to Chez that his current play isn't working and that he needs to change or it's lynch time. When I vote for someone, I want them to die and will work for that unless significant evidence can convince me otherwise. If you just throw votes around like you (and bugs -_-) are doing, they get the air taken out of them. My post was prompted by remembering Chez's previous gambit I saw him play. Either he continues to play scummy and we kill him, or he shapes up and plays nice. Obviously he could still be scum even if he shapes up but it'll be much harder for him to cause chaos if he's playing nice and we catch him later on.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 07:00 GMT
#217
On July 16 2012 15:09 Q-bert-Z wrote:
Walton, are you the Batman?

Rest of you: Mafia have an advantage in numbers. We need to find a way to use this against them. They also have a disadvantage in communication, and we need to make sure we exploit that as much as possible.

A few ideas coming to mind: Large numbers will make it slightly easier to lynch a mafia, as long as we can keep communication to a minimum with them. They can only send one message a day, so we should try to create an environment that is shifting too much for that message to be useful.

Remember, they can't organize and respond to lynches effectively like a normal mafia.

hmm this slipped by me. What dearest smurf here seems to be suggesting sounds like a scum heaven. In a constantly shifting environment, scum will never be forced to take a solid position on anything thus allowing them to skate by. While disrupting scum communication is a worthy goal, it's not worth sacrificing a stable town atmosphere to do so. A better method is more along the lines of what probulous suggested; jump on anyone who has sudden and rather odd changes of heart.

This is coming up because of your post history so far smurfette... let's not continue down this road k thnx.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 07:04 GMT
#218
On July 16 2012 15:59 Q-bert-Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 15:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 16 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote:
To add to my previous post, which is unreasonably short: That's awfully irresponsible of you, M_Z. Are you FoSing him without calling him scum? Way to take any air whatosever out of your FoS. You're probably worried that you'll be told by your overlords that he's scum with you and you want an excuse not to vote him later.

##unvote
##vote: Meapak_Ziphh

lulz didn't scroll.

So apparently I need to define FoS. Stands for Finger of Suspicion. Gives a heads up to Chez that his current play isn't working and that he needs to change or it's lynch time. When I vote for someone, I want them to die and will work for that unless significant evidence can convince me otherwise. If you just throw votes around like you (and bugs -_-) are doing, they get the air taken out of them. My post was prompted by remembering Chez's previous gambit I saw him play. Either he continues to play scummy and we kill him, or he shapes up and plays nice. Obviously he could still be scum even if he shapes up but it'll be much harder for him to cause chaos if he's playing nice and we catch him later on.


You must be new here. I'll be nice then.

Chezinu is the definition of amazing play. You must learn to get past the cunning language that he puts forth to veil what he speaks from the unworthy. Just because you speak a different language doesn't mean he's not playing the game. Learn to play his game and you'll find a treasure trove of wisdom and knowledge. He is, after all, Walton.



As far as "holding people to their day one reads", I must say I've heard worse things, though not many. Let me ask you this...what is the probubality of our day one reads being any good? Day one reads are the worse reads we're going to get...

If you're just gonna troll then I'm fine pushing you off the boat first. You run the risk of being blinded by chez's veil. In your haste to hail him as a speaker of wisdom and knowledge you miss the fact that he has actually played a fairly successful scum game using this tactic.

@Probe, do my posts need more fire and brimstone?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 16:57 GMT
#337
Hey Palmar, is marvellosity scum?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 17:06 GMT
#341
On July 17 2012 01:58 supersoft wrote:
he mz, you owe me an explanation

Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:07 supersoft wrote:
On July 16 2012 14:49 Probulous wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok since no-one seems to want to actually participate, here are some thoughts of mine of the setup.

Aside from trying to kill town, the only thing that binds mafia as a team is their strategy dictated from above. From my reading this is sent during the night. Thus day 2 is going to be crucial. We should be aware of people who change reads for bad reasons or suddenly become active. Basically anyone who suddenly gains direction overnight will be a good target to poke. As for Day 1, I think participation and clarity will be extra useful because mafia now know that they are setting themselves up for difficulties in Day 2 if they pick targets Day 1. People with clear targets are going to have to work harder to change them if a different CEO strategy comes in.


Thoughts?


wifom

On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
People are being shy violets right now but I like what probulous has posted thus far.


how can you like this nonsense?



There's nothing to explain, it's like the second post in the game and it makes a lot of sense. If someone has been going tunnel city on someone else and then next day they completely ignore it I think it's worth lynching into.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 17:21 GMT
#356
Palmar since you're here you and I are going to play a lighting round.

Marvellosity
Blazinghand
Rastaban
Supersoft

Scum or town, go.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 17:30 GMT
#369
On July 17 2012 02:10 supersoft wrote:
yes of course, but do you think it's worth mentioning? This stuff is common sense. dont you think that these thought are rather thoughts a scumplayer has, because he has to control and plan who he accuses?

Could you quote stuff? I didn't realize this was directed at me. I actually do think it's worth pointing out because in a normal game, the only people who suddenly change their minds are DTs who got a red (or green) check. Someone doing an about face is often a good way of lynching scum without having to claim DT. In this game however, it'll be scum doing about faces so I think it's good to get it out there so we don't have to sift through multiple DT claims later in the game.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 17:34 GMT
#374
On July 17 2012 02:25 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Palmar since you're here you and I are going to play a lighting round.

Marvellosity
Blazinghand
Rastaban
Supersoft

Scum or town, go.


No.

Actually yes. You've done this before, I want to know if you're going to go through with it. If you're not, then you were essentially just causing chaos. That's not a very promising mark on your record.

So let's get rid of the asshole act and you can sit down and play nice or I'll assume that you were just trolling with the RL shit and I'll give Katina's case a second look.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 17:35 GMT
#376
On July 17 2012 02:31 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 17 2012 02:10 supersoft wrote:
yes of course, but do you think it's worth mentioning? This stuff is common sense. dont you think that these thought are rather thoughts a scumplayer has, because he has to control and plan who he accuses?

Could you quote stuff? I didn't realize this was directed at me. I actually do think it's worth pointing out because in a normal game, the only people who suddenly change their minds are DTs who got a red (or green) check. Someone doing an about face is often a good way of lynching scum without having to claim DT. In this game however, it'll be scum doing about faces so I think it's good to get it out there so we don't have to sift through multiple DT claims later in the game.

Why in hell are you still talking about this. Isn't there anything more productive for you to comment on?

I'm continuing my conversation with supersoft, read the thread.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 17:49 GMT
#388
On July 17 2012 02:42 syllogism wrote:
Meapak you never replied to my post here. I don't expect much from the reply, but I do expect something
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 18:00 syllogism wrote:
On July 16 2012 15:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 16 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote:
To add to my previous post, which is unreasonably short: That's awfully irresponsible of you, M_Z. Are you FoSing him without calling him scum? Way to take any air whatosever out of your FoS. You're probably worried that you'll be told by your overlords that he's scum with you and you want an excuse not to vote him later.

##unvote
##vote: Meapak_Ziphh

lulz didn't scroll.

So apparently I need to define FoS. Stands for Finger of Suspicion. Gives a heads up to Chez that his current play isn't working and that he needs to change or it's lynch time. When I vote for someone, I want them to die and will work for that unless significant evidence can convince me otherwise. If you just throw votes around like you (and bugs -_-) are doing, they get the air taken out of them. My post was prompted by remembering Chez's previous gambit I saw him play. Either he continues to play scummy and we kill him, or he shapes up and plays nice. Obviously he could still be scum even if he shapes up but it'll be much harder for him to cause chaos if he's playing nice and we catch him later on.

So do you think his play so far is indicative of him being mafia? YesIf so, do you want him to change his behavior or do you want to lynch him? I want him to change his behavior since the less shit that goes on in the thread the better, he can still be scum but the thread won't be a nightmare to read and we can simply catch him laterDo you always give people who you think may be mafia "heads up" so they can change their play?That's the point of FoS. I don't do it very often, check previous games Moreover, do you think your "warning" will make him change his play?It's important to note that the genesis of my original post stems from the PYP game where chez intentionally acted scummy and got away with it for days I saw him begin what looked like a similar strategy this game and I wanted to point it out so that people would pay attention and not just brush it off as "chez being chez." I have no idea if warning him will make him change his play. If he continues on with his current act then I'll start trying to get him lynched, if he stops then I'll focus on other targets for now. Even if he stops it doesn't preclude him being mafia.

Hi sandroba, you around?


In green
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 17:53 GMT
#390
On July 17 2012 02:43 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:
On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote:
CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG

You are wrong. Katina alignment is non conclusive right now. Move on to palmar/mz/bh/syllo/probulus.


ah I corrected that list for you ;-)

*stop going for palmar. All of you. That guy works best if you let him do his job. judge him based on his results not based on his playstyle.

+
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote:
Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom.


this makes him the most hillarious player so far. We can't afford to lose him.

Despite what he'll have you believe, Palmar is not allergic to contributing. Bolded part is extremely retarded, Palmar isn't good enough to justify giving special privileges to. Only player of that caliber in this game is foolishness and even so it'd be nice if he'd make an appearance soonish.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 18:09 GMT
#395
so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 16 2012 18:21 GMT
#400
On July 17 2012 03:13 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there.

cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town

That's bullshit and you know it lol.
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