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On July 22 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
BH is very likely mafia, but it's laughable to include him on a list of people who you say are "focused and organized" when they scum hunt. No one thinks Foolishness is town, so he clearly should be our lynch tomorrow.
I was using those terms loosely. They all have their different ways of being "focused and organized" when they play. Also they are "consistent and confident"
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Players widely regarded as scum:
Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar (though at present I don't want to lynch him) and...what, has Chezinu reached that threshold yet?
That's our lynch docket tomorrow: Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar, Chezinu
Because we need focus.
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On July 22 2012 04:35 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
You and Foolish have both stated similar aims. :/
All right, that's BH in my opinion, Foolish is right. Careful, Foolishness is also scum and Palmar is most likely Mafia as well. The last thing we need to do is have the town start thinking that Foolishness isn't Mafia. BH is a good lynch candidate for tomorrow. He has the most against him right now.
Katina you keep complaining that town lacks focus, but you should be pushing Foolishness lynch in every single of your posts. He is a rational, good player so there is no chance whatsoever he is town in this game. The error margin is pretty much 0%. With players like kurumi, zealos, BH there is always a small possibility that they are just playing poorly or trolling, while that's not possible with Foolishness. He should be your strongest read.
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Foolishness is CEO and MZ is executive. True story bros. I figured it all out!
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Well, that was weird.
As far as I can see, I'd like a BH lynch. It's almost as if he claimed scum earlier, as VE mentioned,
On July 22 2012 04:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I mean, if our thought is "sandro can't be trusted" I'd see why we're not lynching Zealos, but... we're also not lynching sandro? It just seems to me that between Sandro, Zealos, and Palmar we should totally be able to find a non-me lynch today
and he's very happy to just push hard on the easy target so far.
As for me - I'm not mafia, deal with it.
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On July 22 2012 04:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Players widely regarded as scum:
Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar (though at present I don't want to lynch him) and...what, has Chezinu reached that threshold yet?
That's our lynch docket tomorrow: Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar, Chezinu
Because we need focus.
Okey lets focus, and then you decide those are the candidates. Good luck getting people to agree on that lynch.
Alternativly (which is a much better idea) we just lynch katina or zealous who've basicly scumclaimed by not beeing suspicious against eachother.
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Foolishness
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On July 22 2012 04:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Players widely regarded as scum:
Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar (though at present I don't want to lynch him) and...what, has Chezinu reached that threshold yet?
That's our lynch docket tomorrow: Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar, Chezinu
Because we need focus.
Someone made a case against me?
Where?
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On July 22 2012 04:43 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 04:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Players widely regarded as scum:
Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar (though at present I don't want to lynch him) and...what, has Chezinu reached that threshold yet?
That's our lynch docket tomorrow: Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar, Chezinu
Because we need focus. Someone made a case against me? Where?
Did I say that at all?
I said you're widely regarded as scum, not that anyone made a case against you. Just making observations bro...if you want off that list then change peoples' opinions of you. *shrug*
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On July 22 2012 04:39 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 04:35 Katina wrote:On July 22 2012 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
You and Foolish have both stated similar aims. :/
All right, that's BH in my opinion, Foolish is right. Careful, Foolishness is also scum and Palmar is most likely Mafia as well. The last thing we need to do is have the town start thinking that Foolishness isn't Mafia. BH is a good lynch candidate for tomorrow. He has the most against him right now. Katina you keep complaining that town lacks focus, but you should be pushing Foolishness lynch in every single of your posts. He is a rational, good player so there is no chance whatsoever he is town in this game. The error margin is pretty much 0%. With players like kurumi, zealos, BH there is always a small possibility that they are just playing poorly or trolling, while that's not possible with Foolishness. He should be your strongest read.
I made a post against him on D1 saying that I knew he was Mafia. We have been preoccupied with people like Kurumi and Zealos there hasn't been any time to discuss Foolishness as a lynch candidate for tomorrow. I would me more than happy to lynch him. He's somewhere near the top of my Mafia list in just about all my posts. I have been talking about what's going on in the thread and trying to keep the town focused (I'm aware I don't have the "authortity") but I'm still going to try.
As for BH, I have a pretty good idea between him trolly town play and his Mafia or third party play (which are pretty much the same)
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Foolishness
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On July 22 2012 04:44 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 04:43 Foolishness wrote:On July 22 2012 04:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Players widely regarded as scum:
Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar (though at present I don't want to lynch him) and...what, has Chezinu reached that threshold yet?
That's our lynch docket tomorrow: Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar, Chezinu
Because we need focus. Someone made a case against me? Where? Did I say that at all? I said you're widely regarded as scum, not that anyone made a case against you. Just making observations bro...if you want off that list then change peoples' opinions of you. *shrug*
What information is there against Chezinu? Why is he on the list?
Need to stick to people who there's evidence on. Blazinghand knows he's mafia that's the only reason he's posting the way he is. It seems like nobody is sure enough on Palmar (except Katina) to want to push him over the edge (though for the record I'd be fine killing him in the near future).
Furthermore, until someone can refute anything I've said against BM there's no reason to not kill him either. At the least you can answer me the question, "what has BM done this game that's protown?" and find me a game where BM is town and acts just like he is this game.
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As of this very moment I will be voting between katina rastaban and foolishness tomorrow
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I was snooping through some of the experienced players filters
Syllogism is town it is pretty obvious
Foolishness I'm sorry I doubted you for a bit. I forgot last game we played together mafia's ploy was to get you lynched. I am convinced your town now so let's work together. You are posting just like you did then with distant for poor town play an focusing on finding scum. I like it!
Not sure on ggq yet, time for more research!
Chezinu and sandroba are obviously town.
BM is so different from himself he must be scum.
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On July 22 2012 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 02:32 Foolishness wrote:On July 22 2012 02:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar two proven messenger roles that can target town. One is sum right? Its Chezinu imo imo. Weren't you just trying to tell us sandroba was scum? AS usual, not reading the thread. It all revolved around my paranoid belief that sandroba was bussing his teammates and was an executive. This was disproven A) by him messaging me and B) by Kurumi flipping town. Keep up Foolish, we can't carry you all game. Gonna have to do something bro. BM has claimed some kind of vote-stealer. The fact that he claims it gives me hope that he's town, because I can see scum wanting to hide that power until necessary (Read: TL Mafia XLVIII). Jackal essentially won the game for us with it after we all mass-scum-claimed. *shrug*
He's calling me scum, but I think he's just misguided. He doesn't believe it strongly enough to push my lynch, and others have expressed at least passing suspicion of me (Mattchew, layabout?, marvellosity). Would scumBM not have pushed my lynch under these conditions if he were "suspicious" of me?
Foolish can you comment on these points on BM I raised?
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On July 22 2012 04:53 Mattchew wrote:
As of this very moment I will be voting between katina rastaban and foolishness tomorrow
No reasons for why you think so? Surprise, Surprise.
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On July 22 2012 04:57 rastaban wrote:
I was snooping through some of the experienced players filters
Syllogism is town it is pretty obvious
Foolishness I'm sorry I doubted you for a bit. I forgot last game we played together mafia's ploy was to get you lynched. I am convinced your town now so let's work together. You are posting just like you did then with distant for poor town play an focusing on finding scum. I like it!
Not sure on ggq yet, time for more research!
Chezinu and sandroba are obviously town.
BM is so different from himself he must be scum.
What?
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On July 22 2012 03:01 supersoft wrote:
Town-vets&
26. Palmar town
3. Sandroba town
11. Supersoft town
???-Vets&
6. Foolishness
10. Meapak_Ziphh
16. GGQ
7. VisceraEyes
15. syllogism
Troll
8. Bill Murray
18. Chezinu
dead
25. RebirthofLegend town
19. Kurumi town
13. Wherebugsgo town
yes you do VE.
I devided the playerlist in two parts. in these parts in another 3 parts *4 parts for this part. because 3 of this list are already dead.
There were 13 players on that list. That means about 4 of them are scum. 3 of them are dead and one of them is me.
1 is sandroba and 1 is palmar. 2 of them are troll i cannot possibly read because they never make any sense.
syllogism makes most sense of the 5 remaining players. leaves you, mz, foolish and GGQ
if one of the trolls is scum
and i made one mistake,
2 of you are scum
Can I have my own catergory, like maybe Crazy-???-Vets& ?
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yeah sure, i fixed that.
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On July 22 2012 04:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2012 02:32 Foolishness wrote:On July 22 2012 02:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar two proven messenger roles that can target town. One is sum right? Its Chezinu imo imo. Weren't you just trying to tell us sandroba was scum? AS usual, not reading the thread. It all revolved around my paranoid belief that sandroba was bussing his teammates and was an executive. This was disproven A) by him messaging me and B) by Kurumi flipping town. Keep up Foolish, we can't carry you all game. Gonna have to do something bro. BM has claimed some kind of vote-stealer. The fact that he claims it gives me hope that he's town, because I can see scum wanting to hide that power until necessary (Read: TL Mafia XLVIII). Jackal essentially won the game for us with it after we all mass-scum-claimed. *shrug*
He's calling me scum, but I think he's just misguided. He doesn't believe it strongly enough to push my lynch, and others have expressed at least passing suspicion of me (Mattchew, layabout?, marvellosity). Would scumBM not have pushed my lynch under these conditions if he were "suspicious" of me? Foolish can you comment on these points on BM I raised?
He refuses to, because he realized he has this exact power on his CEO-powersheet. And now he thinks "what have i done"
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On July 22 2012 05:05 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:01 supersoft wrote:
Town-vets&
26. Palmar town
3. Sandroba town
11. Supersoft town
???-Vets&
6. Foolishness
10. Meapak_Ziphh
16. GGQ
7. VisceraEyes
15. syllogism
Troll
8. Bill Murray
18. Chezinu
dead
25. RebirthofLegend town
19. Kurumi town
13. Wherebugsgo town
yes you do VE.
I devided the playerlist in two parts. in these parts in another 3 parts *4 parts for this part. because 3 of this list are already dead.
There were 13 players on that list. That means about 4 of them are scum. 3 of them are dead and one of them is me.
1 is sandroba and 1 is palmar. 2 of them are troll i cannot possibly read because they never make any sense.
syllogism makes most sense of the 5 remaining players. leaves you, mz, foolish and GGQ
if one of the trolls is scum
and i made one mistake,
2 of you are scum Can I have my own catergory, like maybe Crazy-???-Vets& ?
There are two of you messengers. If town PRs are coming close to mirroring the powers of scum, then it's entirely feasible that you and Sandroba are both town.
If you want me to believe this, then you're gonna have to do something besides troll. Between the two of you, you are FAR scummier than Sandroba and if it came to lynching you or no one I'd pull the trigger in a second. Because I'm TOWN, not some bullshit made up self-imposed third party.
As it stands I believe that you're scum...that you and Sandroba are NOT mirrors of the Mafia-underbosses, that one of you mirrors the other. That one of you is a minion with the power to contact ANYONE, and that the other is the town equivalent. And based on how he used the power and how you used the power, you're FAR more likely scum in that scenario.
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Foolishness
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On July 22 2012 04:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2012 02:32 Foolishness wrote:On July 22 2012 02:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar two proven messenger roles that can target town. One is sum right? Its Chezinu imo imo. Weren't you just trying to tell us sandroba was scum? AS usual, not reading the thread. It all revolved around my paranoid belief that sandroba was bussing his teammates and was an executive. This was disproven A) by him messaging me and B) by Kurumi flipping town. Keep up Foolish, we can't carry you all game. Gonna have to do something bro. BM has claimed some kind of vote-stealer. The fact that he claims it gives me hope that he's town, because I can see scum wanting to hide that power until necessary (Read: TL Mafia XLVIII). Jackal essentially won the game for us with it after we all mass-scum-claimed. *shrug*
He's calling me scum, but I think he's just misguided. He doesn't believe it strongly enough to push my lynch, and others have expressed at least passing suspicion of me (Mattchew, layabout?, marvellosity). Would scumBM not have pushed my lynch under these conditions if he were "suspicious" of me? Foolish can you comment on these points on BM I raised?
I don't think his roleclaim should have any bearing on what we think of him. It's definitely in BM's personality to claim a role as soon as he's attacked. He already confirmed that he can do what he says he can. Whether he's telling the whole truth or just half of it I don't know, but as I said it shouldn't be a big concern.
Scum BM does not hard push for people. He's also said that supersoft is mafia but hasn't said anything more. He also called sandroba town and called him confirmed scum 12 hours later.
Furthermore, his last minute "Kurumi is town" spiel struck me as rather odd and out of place. For instance rastaban said Kurumi was town but at least put effort into trying to convince the town otherwise. BM just kinda came in last minute with the "Chez confirmed scum" thing and has since disappeared. Of course we expect BM to be all over the place, but has he actually helped the town so far? No. Didn't he also refuse to show someone else that he can move someone else's vote around? I don't see any reason to refuse to do that considering how easy it is.
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Foolishness
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On July 22 2012 05:14 supersoft wrote:yeah sure, i fixed that. ____________________________________ Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 04:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2012 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2012 02:32 Foolishness wrote:On July 22 2012 02:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar two proven messenger roles that can target town. One is sum right? Its Chezinu imo imo. Weren't you just trying to tell us sandroba was scum? AS usual, not reading the thread. It all revolved around my paranoid belief that sandroba was bussing his teammates and was an executive. This was disproven A) by him messaging me and B) by Kurumi flipping town. Keep up Foolish, we can't carry you all game. Gonna have to do something bro. BM has claimed some kind of vote-stealer. The fact that he claims it gives me hope that he's town, because I can see scum wanting to hide that power until necessary (Read: TL Mafia XLVIII). Jackal essentially won the game for us with it after we all mass-scum-claimed. *shrug*
He's calling me scum, but I think he's just misguided. He doesn't believe it strongly enough to push my lynch, and others have expressed at least passing suspicion of me (Mattchew, layabout?, marvellosity). Would scumBM not have pushed my lynch under these conditions if he were "suspicious" of me? Foolish can you comment on these points on BM I raised? He refuses to, because he realized he has this exact power on his CEO-powersheet. And now he thinks "what have i done"
Man town's these days are brutal, no wonder so many people ragequit.
On July 02 2012 16:06 Protactinium wrote:
The three executive officers have no innate abilities.
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