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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2012 05:21 GMT
#2041
No wait.

WAIT.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 05:21 GMT
#2042
On July 20 2012 14:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wait...I went too fast. Let me read that again....



......



....

Are you saying sandro is scum Chez?

If kurumi is innocent, mafia would never in their right mind kill him...

If kurumi is mafia, why aren't the mafia afraid of my mad detective skills?

Since when did sand work in the department of communications? mole much?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2012 05:22 GMT
#2043
OMG SANDROBA IS SCUM
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 20 2012 05:22 GMT
#2044
Wait really? Well shit I don't follow the reasoning please restate
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 05:22 GMT
#2045
can anyone here guess my abilities?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:23 GMT
#2046
Ok I get it now. For some reason my brain was focused on BH's response to the Chez nuke rather than his lack of response to the Kurumi nuke. If he has a role that can block nukes there is no reason for him not to block the ROL nuke. One it stops a mafia action. Two it "confirms" him as town. Three it protects a possible townie. When bugs pushed him for this he responds with
On July 17 2012 12:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Well, if he were town, he would have used his block power to block Kurumi from nuking RoL, since Kurumi's nuke was mod-confirmed BEFORE Chezinu used ##nuke in the thread.

Kurumi being scum doesn't mean RoL is town. Even if Kurumi is one of the managers, he still has very little idea who he's actually shooting, and RoL isn't exactly captain mctownerson to begin with.

Note he doesn't say RoL is scum, just that he can't be sure he is town. In other words he thought about this action and chose not to save RoL on the off chance that Kurumi got it wrong.

BH was given a golden opportunity to "prove" his alignment by blocking the Kurumi nuke but he didn't. This would have made sense from both alignment's point of view because he could not be sure that RoL wasn't scum. So if he actually had the block ability he could use it to potentially save a buddy and confirm himself. This makes me think he doesn't have the role. Which means this
On July 17 2012 12:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:55 Probulous wrote:
BH do you actually have a blocking ability?Still trying to get my head around this.

Yes. My role is 1-shot day blocker.

is a lie.

So we follow in bugs' footsteps
On July 17 2012 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:31 Probulous wrote:
@Bugs

Do we even know if there is a block ability?

we don't, but why would BH use ##block unless he had that ability or that he took the nuke seriously?
If he's lying about having a block then he's scum, if he's not lying it doesn't change anything.

My apologies bugs. I didn't understand the crux of your case yesterdayhopefully we can rectify that.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 05:23 GMT
#2047
VE you might want to post that pic again, just saying, safety first!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#2048
Proving my role wouldn't prove my alignment. You of all people should know role =/= alignment
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
July 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#2049
Alright I can understand the BH argument no problem. I'm having a tougher time seeing the "sandro is scum" argument. Enlighten me.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#2050
On July 20 2012 14:23 Probulous wrote:
Ok I get it now. For some reason my brain was focused on BH's response to the Chez nuke rather than his lack of response to the Kurumi nuke. If he has a role that can block nukes there is no reason for him not to block the ROL nuke. One it stops a mafia action. Two it "confirms" him as town. Three it protects a possible townie. When bugs pushed him for this he responds with
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Well, if he were town, he would have used his block power to block Kurumi from nuking RoL, since Kurumi's nuke was mod-confirmed BEFORE Chezinu used ##nuke in the thread.

Kurumi being scum doesn't mean RoL is town. Even if Kurumi is one of the managers, he still has very little idea who he's actually shooting, and RoL isn't exactly captain mctownerson to begin with.

Note he doesn't say RoL is scum, just that he can't be sure he is town. In other words he thought about this action and chose not to save RoL on the off chance that Kurumi got it wrong.

BH was given a golden opportunity to "prove" his alignment by blocking the Kurumi nuke but he didn't. This would have made sense from both alignment's point of view because he could not be sure that RoL wasn't scum. So if he actually had the block ability he could use it to potentially save a buddy and confirm himself. This makes me think he doesn't have the role. Which means this
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:56 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:55 Probulous wrote:
BH do you actually have a blocking ability?Still trying to get my head around this.

Yes. My role is 1-shot day blocker.

is a lie.

So we follow in bugs' footsteps
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:31 Probulous wrote:
@Bugs

Do we even know if there is a block ability?

we don't, but why would BH use ##block unless he had that ability or that he took the nuke seriously?
If he's lying about having a block then he's scum, if he's not lying it doesn't change anything.

My apologies bugs. I didn't understand the crux of your case yesterdayhopefully we can rectify that.

obviously he is lying cause he didn't stop my top secret ability. If worse comes to worse.. I may have to reveal it..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 05:27 GMT
#2051
On July 20 2012 14:25 Blazinghand wrote:
Proving my role wouldn't prove my alignment. You of all people should know role =/= alignment

in this case the top mafia guys has no role... Why didn't you try to kill me blazing? oh cause your not the CEO? well the CEO doesn't seem like protecting his chairman is that important..


Or I could be completely wrong!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:27 GMT
#2052
On July 20 2012 14:22 Chezinu wrote:
can anyone here guess my abilities?


You can check the Role Name of people.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2012 05:30 GMT
#2053
No, you're the town-aligned messenger aren't you Chez?

Because if you flip, Sandroba is outted.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:31 GMT
#2054
On July 20 2012 14:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG SANDROBA IS SCUM


It's possible. His choice of Kurumi struck me as odd because of all people playing here, Kurumi might just follow the message instructions without thinking. Of course, that is the idea but it does mean that Krumui could just not have thought of the implications of responding in the way he/she/it (which is it?) did. Meaning it is not alignment indicative.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 20 2012 05:32 GMT
#2055
On July 20 2012 14:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, you're the town-aligned messenger aren't you Chez?

Because if you flip, Sandroba is outted.


Which means all the messages he sent were real messages. If he has Sandroba's role, it's valuable to the town and scum can't kill him because it'll mean giving up sandro, who must be the CEO if he's faking the messages, since he wouldn't want to accidentally pick scum at the wrong time.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 05:32 GMT
#2056
On July 20 2012 14:27 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 14:22 Chezinu wrote:
can anyone here guess my abilities?


You can check the Role Name of people.

So, are you saying that you are the chairman of the board?

PS: see my comment to rastbanwhatever about how to understand the question.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2012 05:32 GMT
#2057
And Sandroba would have used that ability on someone that he could gauge their alignment.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 05:33 GMT
#2058
On July 20 2012 14:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 14:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, you're the town-aligned messenger aren't you Chez?

Because if you flip, Sandroba is outted.


Which means all the messages he sent were real messages. If he has Sandroba's role, it's valuable to the town and scum can't kill him because it'll mean giving up sandro, who must be the CEO if he's faking the messages, since he wouldn't want to accidentally pick scum at the wrong time.

So do you not think there are 3 workers in the department of communication?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2012 05:35 GMT
#2059
There are - Sand could be one of the executives. My guess is that he bussed the shit out of Kurumi when he used his nuke.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 20 2012 05:35 GMT
#2060
On July 20 2012 14:33 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 14:32 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 20 2012 14:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, you're the town-aligned messenger aren't you Chez?

Because if you flip, Sandroba is outted.


Which means all the messages he sent were real messages. If he has Sandroba's role, it's valuable to the town and scum can't kill him because it'll mean giving up sandro, who must be the CEO if he's faking the messages, since he wouldn't want to accidentally pick scum at the wrong time.

So do you not think there are 3 workers in the department of communication?


I don't know how many workers there are in the department of communication. But if you're saying Sandro doesn't work for you, and you're the director of communication, then who does he work for?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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