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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 10 2012 02:48 GMT
#641
Sorry guys, slept since 4PM yesterday only to wake up at midnight -.- .




MrZentor - I dislike his open denial of providing information to town because it is clearly a bad thing to do (less information for town to discuss, less information for town to use) therefore I also think he is scum and willing to vote him if need be.

Sinensis - Please answer my case.
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 10 2012 02:55 GMT
#642
On July 10 2012 11:48 Bluelightz wrote:
Sorry guys, slept since 4PM yesterday only to wake up at midnight -.- .




MrZentor - I dislike his open denial of providing information to town because it is clearly a bad thing to do (less information for town to discuss, less information for town to use) therefore I also think he is scum and willing to vote him if need be.

Sinensis - Please answer my case.


thoughts on VE?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 10 2012 02:56 GMT
#643
On July 10 2012 11:55 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 11:48 Bluelightz wrote:
Sorry guys, slept since 4PM yesterday only to wake up at midnight -.- .




MrZentor - I dislike his open denial of providing information to town because it is clearly a bad thing to do (less information for town to discuss, less information for town to use) therefore I also think he is scum and willing to vote him if need be.

Sinensis - Please answer my case.


thoughts on VE?


*best Bz impression* "I think he's supertown! I think you're barking up the wrong tree with that guy imo imo"
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 02:58 GMT
#644
On July 09 2012 20:58 marvellosity wrote:
Sinensis: could you tell me any games you played as both scum and town please


I don't believe I've ever been scum in a TL game. Someone said I have been scum once earlier, but I don't remember that so maybe they know something I don't.

Also marv I changed my mind about zeph because he's saying things I agree with, simple as that.

I said before I was going to vote for VE in my last post, I'm still going to do that because of the things zeph said that I agree with, also the mess on page 30.

About zentor's "case" on me: I don't feel like I have to respond because all he has done is copy pasted what other people wrote day 1; things the original authors don't even consider to be an issue anymore. If the people who made the cases against me to begin with don't believe those cases anymore, why should anyone else? If anything I think him tunneling me for those reasons, that aren't his, is extremely suspicious.

I chose VE as the better target today because VE's posting is less focused and seems desperate; giving up. The fact that he insists that his own play is horrible and scummy isn't helping me.

Bluelightz wrote this:

On July 09 2012 14:43 Bluelightz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Alright, voting Sinensis + a case so he can respond and not bitch about people voting him for no reason




Case

First, what I find suspicious is that he threw a bunch of stuff to make his vote look more "big" and stuff,

On July 07 2012 12:42 Sinensis wrote:
Okay, I'm caught up:

sloosh, what are you doing? You vote wiggles with no explanation, people call you out for it, you change your vote to me with no explanation at first, people call you out for it, then your explanation is that I was your first suspicion (even though you randomly voted wiggles first?) because my posting is mechanical? My posting is mechanical and that's why I'm scummy, maybe you could elaborate on that. Even though you seem to have changed your mind again to prplhz before I responded to you. Are you just jumping on the easiest target every time? What's the deal?

Prplhz shouldn't be lynched today. No way in hell. He's gotten too much negative attention from too many people, it seems likely to me mafia is pushing for the easy lynch against an aggressive player. And why wouldn't they? prplhz isn't playing as good or as friendly as he could be. This is the last time I defend him against the rest of the angry mob unless he stops with the "LOL SCUM LOL."


I am going to go with gut for my day one vote. Zephirdd's posting is the scummiest right now in my opinion. He spends a lot of his time telling other, presumably town players, how to play. Something mafia can't seem to resist doing in most of the games I play. He is stating mostly FACTS (people talking like they know something for certain are suspicious because only mafia have FACTS) and very little speculation.

As for everyone who is suspicious of me for lurking, you're right, it's suspicious, my bad. I work during the day (USEAST) and can't post till night usually. Expect my posts then, like I'm doing now. If anyone has any questions for me now is a good time I will be around.

##vote: Zephirdd


1. As you can see, without the bunch of stuff its very small, also when you look at his reasons, he never explains why facts are scummy, he just says that mafia tend to do it and yada yada yada

On July 08 2012 04:48 Sinensis wrote:
I could probably swing this vote back onto someone else if I switched but I'm happy to be where I'm at. I'm going to leave it on Zephirdd till the end of the day and see if people are still mad about it. I still think he's scum but I'm the only one that would think that right now, so yeah, not budging.


2. He's being openly hostile and not helping to consolidate the vote which might've led to a no-lynch which is terrible because we lose valuable information (but it is a plus though that he stuck to his own thoughts then sheeping and vote switching like many people did on day 1).

On July 08 2012 13:03 Sinensis wrote:
Wow I thought I was going to be thrown under the bus for sticking to my gut (as per usual), and you guys go and kill someone completely different on nothing but gut and weak meta?

Keep an eye on those that switched votes from me to wiggles in my opinion.

That's sloosh, VE, and dangeresque. I would gamble one of them is mafia.


3. Then he points out X,Y, and Z, there's probably scum in between, this is just bullshit because he doesnt explain if X,Y, and Z is scummy (reasonless crap).



Those are just my thoughts but feel free to add on,

and ##Vote: Sinensis


1. In my post before this, I explained that I had missed a lot of the early action. I thought it would be beneficial to give my thoughts on important things that happened. All you did was cross out everything I said that... I don't know why you did that...

2. You just accused me of NOT helping consolidate the vote on myself? Why would I do that? Are people even allowed to vote for themselves?

3. I gave a reason, you just missed it. It's in the exact same post you quoted, one line above what you bolded. I said that they were suspicious because all three bandwagoned from wiggles, an innocent person and easy target, to me, another innocent person and easy target.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 10 2012 02:59 GMT
#645
On July 10 2012 11:55 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 11:48 Bluelightz wrote:
Sorry guys, slept since 4PM yesterday only to wake up at midnight -.- .




MrZentor - I dislike his open denial of providing information to town because it is clearly a bad thing to do (less information for town to discuss, less information for town to use) therefore I also think he is scum and willing to vote him if need be.

Sinensis - Please answer my case.


thoughts on VE?


On July 09 2012 09:17 Bluelightz wrote:
Well, in the subject of VE , he speds most of the time pocking people and voting people :O, also his vote switch is suspicious too as he just without reason or giving a SHORT reason he just switched.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 07:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah okay.

##Unvote
##Vote Drwiggl3s


No reason thur amiright?




VE also has a lot of crappy posts which are just deadweight for the thread, an example is the following:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 07:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
slOosh is so dreamy.


One the plus side though, his aggressive behavior is a normal behavior for VE such as in Sum Of All Fears Mafia IIRC



Another plus though is that VE didn't sheep on Zentor but made up his own reasons for it.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 02:59 GMT
#646
I forgot something

##vote: VisceraEyes
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 10 2012 03:00 GMT
#647
Sinensis said
I don't believe I've ever been scum in a TL game. Someone said I have been scum once earlier, but I don't remember that so maybe they know something I don't.


Confirmation, he has never been scum on TL. I actually looked it up earlier.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 10 2012 03:02 GMT
#648
@Sinensis

1. You voted but you had to post 3 pargraphs of fluff first that's why I crossed it out, but that is a valid reason

2. On the drwiggl3s lynch not on yourself Sinensis, you just stuck up and that might've resulted in a no-lynch.

3. Bro, you didn't explain why switching was scummy, you just said it was scummy = reasonless.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:03 GMT
#649
On July 10 2012 12:00 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sinensis said
I don't believe I've ever been scum in a TL game. Someone said I have been scum once earlier, but I don't remember that so maybe they know something I don't.


Confirmation, he has never been scum on TL. I actually looked it up earlier.


While you're here and knowing all about me maybe you could confirm that I am also frequently stubborn, often to a fault.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 10 2012 03:04 GMT
#650
On July 10 2012 12:03 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 12:00 Zephirdd wrote:
Sinensis said
I don't believe I've ever been scum in a TL game. Someone said I have been scum once earlier, but I don't remember that so maybe they know something I don't.


Confirmation, he has never been scum on TL. I actually looked it up earlier.


While you're here and knowing all about me maybe you could confirm that I am also frequently stubborn, often to a fault.


I can confirm that, in SoAF he just gave up and wasn't willing to switch votes iirc. As well as from numerous other games.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:07 GMT
#651
On July 10 2012 12:02 Bluelightz wrote:
@Sinensis

1. You voted but you had to post 3 pargraphs of fluff first that's why I crossed it out, but that is a valid reason

2. On the drwiggl3s lynch not on yourself Sinensis, you just stuck up and that might've resulted in a no-lynch.

3. Bro, you didn't explain why switching was scummy, you just said it was scummy = reasonless.


1. IT. WASN'T. FLUFF. It was stuff YOU YOURSELF posted about earlier in the thread. Not all of that post had to do with the vote. I was CONSOLIDATING.

2. I didn't think wiggles was scum. I thought Zeph was scum. That's why I voted zeph, not wiggles.

3. Three people changing from one innocent bandwagoned target to another innocent target is scummy to me. Maybe I'm stupid for believe that. Maybe you should explain to me why I'm stupid for believing that if you have a problem with it.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 10 2012 03:07 GMT
#652
Day 2 Vote Count


VisceraEyes (2)
Zephirdd
slOosh
prplhz
Zephirdd
Sinensis

Sinensis (2)
MrZentor
Zephirdd
Dangeresque77
VisceraEyes
Bluelightz

MrZentor (5)
marvellosity
slOosh
Dangeresque77
Zephirdd
VisceraEyes

The day ends in 23 hours at 02:00 GMT (+00:00). With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 10 2012 03:07 GMT
#653
On July 10 2012 12:03 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 12:00 Zephirdd wrote:
Sinensis said
I don't believe I've ever been scum in a TL game. Someone said I have been scum once earlier, but I don't remember that so maybe they know something I don't.


Confirmation, he has never been scum on TL. I actually looked it up earlier.


While you're here and knowing all about me maybe you could confirm that I am also frequently stubborn, often to a fault.


wtf I thought I had posted about your meta already. I wrote it like three times.

Basically, yeah, he is on his meta and was mislynched more than once. I didn't read ALL the games, but the overall feel is that he isn't looking too different here.

Quick meta search for whoever is interested: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=31&u=sinensis&gb=date&d=create

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Toad_in_Pink_Dress
Profile Joined March 2012
United States50 Posts
July 10 2012 03:14 GMT
#654
On July 10 2012 12:07 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 12:02 Bluelightz wrote:
@Sinensis

1. You voted but you had to post 3 pargraphs of fluff first that's why I crossed it out, but that is a valid reason

2. On the drwiggl3s lynch not on yourself Sinensis, you just stuck up and that might've resulted in a no-lynch.

3. Bro, you didn't explain why switching was scummy, you just said it was scummy = reasonless.


1. IT. WASN'T. FLUFF. It was stuff YOU YOURSELF posted about earlier in the thread. Not all of that post had to do with the vote. I was CONSOLIDATING.

2. I didn't think wiggles was scum. I thought Zeph was scum. That's why I voted zeph, not wiggles.

3. Three people changing from one innocent bandwagoned target to another innocent target is scummy to me. Maybe I'm stupid for believe that. Maybe you should explain to me why I'm stupid for believing that if you have a problem with it.


No, your not stupid for believing that, you just didn't explain why you believed in that,(you) Finely explained the other points already too.
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:15 GMT
#655
On July 10 2012 12:14 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 12:07 Sinensis wrote:
On July 10 2012 12:02 Bluelightz wrote:
@Sinensis

1. You voted but you had to post 3 pargraphs of fluff first that's why I crossed it out, but that is a valid reason

2. On the drwiggl3s lynch not on yourself Sinensis, you just stuck up and that might've resulted in a no-lynch.

3. Bro, you didn't explain why switching was scummy, you just said it was scummy = reasonless.


1. IT. WASN'T. FLUFF. It was stuff YOU YOURSELF posted about earlier in the thread. Not all of that post had to do with the vote. I was CONSOLIDATING.

2. I didn't think wiggles was scum. I thought Zeph was scum. That's why I voted zeph, not wiggles.

3. Three people changing from one innocent bandwagoned target to another innocent target is scummy to me. Maybe I'm stupid for believe that. Maybe you should explain to me why I'm stupid for believing that if you have a problem with it.


No, your not stupid for believing that, you just didn't explain why you believed in that,(you) Finely explained the other points already too.


WHO ARE YOU WHAT IS GOING ON
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 10 2012 03:16 GMT
#656
On July 10 2012 12:15 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 12:14 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
On July 10 2012 12:07 Sinensis wrote:
On July 10 2012 12:02 Bluelightz wrote:
@Sinensis

1. You voted but you had to post 3 pargraphs of fluff first that's why I crossed it out, but that is a valid reason

2. On the drwiggl3s lynch not on yourself Sinensis, you just stuck up and that might've resulted in a no-lynch.

3. Bro, you didn't explain why switching was scummy, you just said it was scummy = reasonless.


1. IT. WASN'T. FLUFF. It was stuff YOU YOURSELF posted about earlier in the thread. Not all of that post had to do with the vote. I was CONSOLIDATING.

2. I didn't think wiggles was scum. I thought Zeph was scum. That's why I voted zeph, not wiggles.

3. Three people changing from one innocent bandwagoned target to another innocent target is scummy to me. Maybe I'm stupid for believe that. Maybe you should explain to me why I'm stupid for believing that if you have a problem with it.


No, your not stupid for believing that, you just didn't explain why you believed in that,(you) Finely explained the other points already too.


WHO ARE YOU WHAT IS GOING ON


its me, forgot to log out lol
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
July 10 2012 03:19 GMT
#657
all he has done is copy pasted what other people wrote


I said that if I said why I think you're scum I would just be copying other people. -.-
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:21 GMT
#658
On July 10 2012 12:19 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
all he has done is copy pasted what other people wrote


I said that if I said why I think you're scum I would just be copying other people. -.-


What about the fact that the people you copied don't believe what they wrote anymore? Doesn't that mean you think I'm scum for literally zero reason?
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
July 10 2012 03:44 GMT
#659
Believe it or not, I formed my ideas off of your posts, and any copying of other people is coincidence.

What about the fact that the people you copied don't believe what they wrote anymore? Doesn't that mean you think I'm scum for literally zero reason?


Really? Really? That's a terrible reason. -.-
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:49 GMT
#660
On July 10 2012 12:44 MrZentor wrote:
Believe it or not, I formed my ideas off of your posts, and any copying of other people is coincidence.

Show nested quote +
What about the fact that the people you copied don't believe what they wrote anymore? Doesn't that mean you think I'm scum for literally zero reason?


Really? Really? That's a terrible reason. -.-


No matter how hard you try to get me to vote you I'm not going to. VE is my target right now. No quantity of emoticons or crap posts can change my mind, at least until VE changes it for me.
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