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On June 22 2012 08:25 slOosh wrote:
Could you guys please cut back on the chatter / one liners? It may be harmless now but later on its really going to hamper thread legibility.
Downer man, downer 
I think Snarfs is suspicious for taking prplhz too seriously.
Nice little cast of suspicion with no response once Snarfs points out how serious Prpl looked.
On June 22 2012 10:00 slOosh wrote:
VE I think you are paranoid town right now. Yes, Marv could be scum. But I really don't see it right now and it's dominating the thread in a bad way. Zephirdd, the benefits of a "possible blue" is nothing compared to the possible headaches caused by miller claims. That's why we make any miller claim D1.
Sloosh says marv could be scum but he isn't scum  Also downer again.
On June 22 2012 10:02 slOosh wrote:
Alright Prob summarized it nice and concisely for me. This is something I'm interested in.
This is where I was pushing Marv as scum, I still have my vote on him so why Sloosh thinks that I think Marv is town is beyond me.
He is coasting which is really really bad. He is taking uncontroversial positions and soft accusing people. He has also disappeared when asked about his scum reads. I would be happy to lynch him if marv comes back with something good.
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On June 22 2012 11:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually that last Prob I read as him finally seeing our point where Marv is concerned...ymmv
Ive got that tingly feeling about him. He is being really careful which is not something I expect from townies. He didn't mention Marv at all until you forced him too and then marv is "possibly scum". Very diplomatic and very neutral. If you don't know, then just say that you don't know. He is hedging there and it doesn't look right.
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Right now my main suspicion is Snarfs. I brought it up before about his question of prplhz. I believe it reveals a(n intentional) lack of comprehension. Prplhz never said Zentor was stifling discussion. He made it pretty clear that he just didn't like playing with him. I find Snarf's particular way of questioning "off". I know it's no 3 point case, but it's what I have right now. His follow up post doesn't inspire anything either - he calls out Zephirdd for weak contributions yet he himself is guilty of the same thing thus far. Contrast that to his clearly excited pre-game chatter.
On June 22 2012 08:10 prplhz wrote:
Hey zentor you don't get to say shit like that and you know why.
Anyway, zentor is actually complaining that he is being focused and cracking under pressure but he is not providing anything else we should talk about, just trying to stifle ongoing discussion. On page 2.
On June 22 2012 08:24 Snarfs wrote:
@prplhz: Zentor realized the errors in his ways and has attempted to correct them (see wbg's last game). Could you show me where you believe he is stifling discussion?
His response seems genuine to me. Especially since prpl really did look like he wanted to lynch Zentor. Pre-game doesn't matter to me and he normally doesn't post diatribes (ala me or VE) but smallish incisive posts.
I like the decisiveness slOosh but I disagree on the Snarfs thing. Right now he is a null to me. If he wasn't contributed more by tomorrow then we can talk again.
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Meh...
Honestly that is how I feel when I read his filter. He comes out blazing for Zentor which could just be pent up rage from previous games. I know I feel that way about Bluelightz. He says he was contributing in the iGrok game but he looked like he didn't care. Could be similar here so really he is still a fat null for me.
Urgh, so many null reads, oh well it is early day 1, we can make progress when these people start posting.
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On June 22 2012 12:47 MrZentor wrote:
It's still stupid to lynch somebody who you know to be a blue.
Are you willfully not scumhunting? Is there nothing in this thread that you find suspicious?
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On June 22 2012 13:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mang, I've never seen this side of slOosh before.
Prob, you take back what you said right now!
Sometimes you really confuse me.
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So you want to lynch Prpl then?
He seems useless to me, he seemed useless in iGrok's game and was town. I won't get in your way if you want to lynch him I just can't tell if he is scum or not right now. Convince me 
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Alrighty guys. I am not going to be around much tomorrow. I have a full saturday planned and the deadline seems to be at 7am Sydney time on Sunday. I don't get up at that time on a Sunday, not even for mafia.
I will pop into the thread every now and then but I am afraid I am relying on you guys to pick up my slack for the next day or so. I'll be back to form on Monday.
We aren't in a bad position with most people commenting on something and some nice back and forth. The guys who haven't posted need to make themselves heard.
Good luck!
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Hey guys, I'm back
In amongst the washing and doing dishes I have found some time to catch up on the thread which has a grand total of two new posts. Rastaban, nice to see you join the game with some sound logical advice. Now who is your top scum read and why?
Actually, these people need to stop commenting and start contributing (ie stop telling me who isn't scum and tell who is)
Snarfs
Zephirdd
Rastaban
MrZentor
Mattchew
Prplhz
risk.nuke
marvel
and the other lurkers who haven't posted anything (Shraft and von Klaust II). I hate to be a prick about it but we need reads. Stop playing nice and get your hands dirty 
PS if I missed you don't take it personally.
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Hi guys. Just woke up and wow VE and Marv
Keep your panties on.
Marv, where is that scum hunting you promised me? Put together your case on VE and let us decide. Shouting and insulting each other gets us nowhere.
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Well Marv seeing the light.
Prplhz, Im sorry you are right. Calling you useless was not nice and I apologise.
FrOm phone
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Hi guys, I am back for a little while before I hit the hay. I won't be up before the deadline as it is 7am on a Sunday morning so this is my last post until the deadline.
On June 22 2012 11:03 MrZentor wrote:
I really don't think either one of VE/Marv is scum.
On June 23 2012 11:20 Zephirdd wrote:
Holy shit. Look at pages 16 and 17. I just solved this game. VE, marv are both scum bussing the F* out of each other. When was the last time this happened? I remember someone saying it was an "OP strategy". Wasn't it Toad/VE doing it? I don't quite remember. Someone said LI, is that it? Either way, if one of them flips scum, I'm sure as hell attacking the other. I thought the initial "attacks" were terrible for both parties, but at this point this all feels fabricated to me.
On June 23 2012 12:09 MrZentor wrote:I don't know Zephirdd....it got pretty intense, but I do agree that we should kill one of them.  ##Vote: marvellosity
##Vote MrZentor
He doesn't mention the other person who has two votes already (Rastaban) and just plonks down his vote on his earlier town read with no explanation. This makes no sense from a townie POV. If he wanted to waste his vote he would put it on someone who has 0 chance of getting lynched but instead he puts it on the highest vote getter who isn't himself. He wants marvel lynched but provides no reasoning. Worse he doesn't want Rastaban lynched but provides no reasoning for that either.
Why did he vote for his town read over all the other possible candidates? Maybe it was a joke vote. Well as of now he hasn't moved it and given his lack of reasoning for anything I cannot assume he is joking.
Zentor is playing the fool and hoping to slide by with minimum effort. He can play better than this and is putting in no effort. I am more confident of a Zentor mafia flip than a Rastaban flip and hence my vote. I also think there is a possibility they are both scum.
Goodnight and Goodluck
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Vote Count (by my reckoning
MrZentor (5): prplhz, VisceraEyes, slOosh, marvellosity, Probulous
marvellosity (2):vonKlaust II, MrZentor
von Klaust II (1): risk.nuke
risk.nuke (1): rastaban
rastaban (2): Snarfs, Mattchew,
Not voted yet (2): Zephirdd, Shraft,
Come on guys, participate please.
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On June 25 2012 07:05 rastaban wrote:
Wow, that's good. Nice work Jailer!
I have a case incoming in a bit, going to eat supper before I finish it.
How do you know it was a jailer
Sorry guys, Sloosh especially, for my limited play over the weekend. Will be more active today.
Ony my way to work.
From phone
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If a person is jailed are they notified?
If so, is the notification the same as if they have been roleblocked?
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On June 25 2012 08:12 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2012 08:07 Probulous wrote:
If a person is jailed are they notified?
If so, is the notification the same as if they have been roleblocked? I can't imagine having a jailer that doesn't inform a person he's been roleblocked. Altough the role specifices that neither the Jailer or the target will be notified by a sucessfull save.
That's why I asked the question. It is possible that someone gets jailed and doesn't get notified unless they have an action which fails.
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On June 25 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:
just gonna assume for now mafia shot VE and the jailer saved him by jailing him
For someone who thought VE was scum this is an odd position to take.
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On June 25 2012 08:49 Zephirdd wrote:
Let me tell you what I think happened. VE was jailed. Then scum KP didn't happen. Then you thought "fuck, our goon was jailed." and then you posted that.
Zephirdd, if scum's shot was blocked because the shooter was jailed they would get a roleblock notification.
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slOosh, I am not ignoring you. If you really want an explanation (with quotes and shit) I will write it out, but basically it came down to me realising marv was not getting lynched and so I had to choose between Zentor and Rastaban. Call it sheeping if you want but to me it was playing realistically. I already said that Zentor was scummy since I asked him to post his top scum candidate and he refused to. So I took a closer look at his filter. His change on Marv/Ve was due to a ridiculous theory by Zephirdd but he didn't even bother with the better cases about Rastaban. It seemed scummy so I chose him.
Remember I have to make my mind hours before you do. There was no way I was going to be able to argue for my lynch and it didn't seem to be going anywhere so I switched to my next scummiest candidate. I hope that is enough for you to see the light but if you have more questions I will gladly answer them.
Still working on Marv's filter. Something is wrotten in the state of Britain.
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Urgh, rastaban, take a little time to think before you post.
If you are roleblocked, claim it. It is that simple. It gives town more information that scum would already have. If the roleblocker or jailer claim, they are giving mafia more info which needs to be weighed up.
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