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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On June 30 2012 06:28 Esspen wrote: If I vote now for Vivax and then in hour NrGmonk shows up and votes for JingleHell, who is going to be lynched? Vivax would be lynched, since he hit 5 votes first. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 30 2012 06:28 Esspen wrote: If I vote now for Vivax and then in hour NrGmonk shows up and votes for JingleHell, who is going to be lynched? Plurality, in the case of a tie, first one to the tie number dies, I believe. | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
On June 29 2012 22:56 Vivax wrote: Well, read the secret then, I don't even have to play with unrevealed cards cause I am going to die anyway: + Show Spoiler + It's actually not that hard to guess + Show Spoiler + You just have to look at the guy I was suspecting from day 1 on + Show Spoiler + Since I was suspicious of him, and being the detective + Show Spoiler + I checked him and he returned scum Now decide if you would rather take the risk of lynching me or the guy who initiated all this bandwagon on me. It's sad however that noone suspected him besides me. Who's the guy you suspected from day 1? You have FoS for both Esspen and Keirathi. Btw Esspen just removed his vote off JingleHell, just as he was about to be set to be lynched. This puts a lot of suspicions on Esspen, as he did the exact same thing yesterday and is just generally flimsy. He actually voted for Jingle at 1:36 and then took his vote off Jingle at 2:36. As of now, with a bit over 2 and a half hours left until the day is up, I'm going to ##vote JingleHell, because of this. Going to be active until one hour from this post, at which time I have to leave. Going to look for more stuff and I'll try to post more soon. | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
On June 30 2012 06:34 Miltonkram wrote: You guys, Vivax's DT claim is one of the scummiest DT claims I've ever seen. He pushes for a Keirathi lynch even when he has a red check on JingleHell. He is scum, and he is obvious scum. If we don't lynch him, it will be one of the worst town plays I've ever seen. He has slipped and it's been obvious. Please, please, please lynch this guy. This. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 30 2012 06:32 NrGmonk wrote: Who's the guy you suspected from day 1? You have FoS for both Esspen and Keirathi. Btw Esspen just removed his vote off JingleHell, just as he was about to be set to be lynched. This puts a lot of suspicions on Esspen, as he did the exact same thing yesterday and is just generally flimsy. He actually voted for Jingle at 1:36 and then took his vote off Jingle at 2:36. As of now, with a bit over 2 and a half hours left until the day is up, I'm going to ##vote JingleHell, because of this. Going to be active until one hour from this post, at which time I have to leave. Going to look for more stuff and I'll try to post more soon. Well, the lurker bandwagon seals my fate, without actually looking at the cases. I bet Vivax is laughing about how easily manipulated this town is, all it took was a couple of implied threats and a fake roleclaim. | ||
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Esspen
Croatia29 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
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monk
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monk
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
On June 30 2012 06:38 NrGmonk wrote: I agree that Vivax seems quite fishy, but your sudden switch of votes seems even more fishy to me. If you can convince me of a reason you switched voting within the span of one hour, I definitely reconsider my vote. I don't understand this logic. Do you really believe right now that Rofl/Jingle is more scummy than Vivax? | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
Please dude. Vote for Vivax. Here's why I think JingleHell isn't scum. Roflwaffles was attacked almost entirely for lurking D1. He was actually busy, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten himself replaced. Ever since JingleHell got into the thread he's been posting reads with confidence. He's been contributing. He's been doing everything you could ask of a town player. We are holding roflwaffles play against JingleHell, even though roflwaffles was definitely busy. This case is complete shit. It holds no water. | ||
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Vivax
22252 Posts
On June 30 2012 06:32 NrGmonk wrote: Who's the guy you suspected from day 1? You have FoS for both Esspen and Keirathi. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347651#19 I decided to lynch him right before the townie mislynch happened, but it was one minute too late, it even came before the mod's post. This is also my defense outside of the claim. As scum I would have no reason to do something this risky (if Jingle was town as most believe). I would cause a lynch of just another townie, would get blamed for saving hopeless in the literal last minute, and would have achieved nothing better than the mislynch of hopeless already was. If people actually thought this far, I wouldn't have had to roleclaim. | ||
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Vivax
22252 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
On June 30 2012 06:40 BioSC wrote: I don't understand this logic. Do you really believe right now that Rofl/Jingle is more scummy than Vivax? No, but Esspen's behavior is really scummy and the logic I'm going by is that I'm assuming that Esspen switched votes yet again to protect his fellow scum. If i could vote for Esspen right now and that vote would matter, I would do that. Again, my vote is by far not a solid vote and I'm just voting quickyl to insure that I have a voice in this. Also, if I'm understanding this right, Vivax pointed Keirathi as definite scum. But why did he vote for Jingle? Also, why is Keirathi also voting for Jingle if Vivax accused him of returning scum? Either Vivax is detective or not. I don't see a combination of roles which would make this make sense, unless something is really wrong. Sorry for the short posts btw. I'm/we're really short on time, and I really want to get quick responses. | ||
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monk
United States8476 Posts
On June 29 2012 08:17 Vivax wrote: There is one thing I did that is pretty failsafe proof of my townie status. I'll post it in the second half of day 2. If you think you are a good townie, then you should have found it already. At least now town will know that there is at least one scum jumping on the bandwagon against me, and scum might even have started it. Don't understand exactly what you did. Is it the last minute switching of votes on Day 1 or is it something else? | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
I haven't had much time to put into this game. I should have more during the night cycle. I'll be much more active then. | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
He switched his vote right before the lynch. It didn't do anything considering Esspen had voted 7 minutes prior. The fact that he is so self-aware of this "proof" is evidence against him IMO. I think he just wanted to make a bold play as proof of his townieness, but he's not. @ Vivax I really hope you're scum, because if you really are DT your play has been terrible. | ||
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Esspen
Croatia29 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
Also, I want a good explanation of why Esspen switched last minute. After reading both Jingle and Vivax's filters, I've found Jingle's points to be much less convoluted and easy to follow, which leads my suspicion a bit off of Jingle and more on Vivax. Also, I find this segment increasingly hard to believe: On June 29 2012 23:27 JingleHell wrote: Also, remember this? You prefer a Keirathi lynch over someone you claim to KNOW is scum? Intriguing. This is all sounding increasingly desperate. Because of Vivax's confusing and convoluted posts, I was led to believe that Vivax had checked Keirathi and he returned scum. Not gunning for Jingle as much initially after you know he's definite scum seems fishy to me, even if you're trying to hide you're detective. @ NrGmonk He switched his vote right before the lynch. It didn't do anything considering Esspen had voted 7 minutes prior. The fact that he is so self-aware of this "proof" is evidence against him IMO. I think he just wanted to make a bold play as proof of his townieness, but he's not. I'm aware of this as well, that his vote switch didn't actually matter and it could very well have been planted "proof". Because of all these points, I'm leaning towards voting Vivax at the moment, but I'm not going to change my vote until the last minute possible for me to leave my options open. PS, being staff helps in this game. I can use the "all" function for any thread and I have filters for Jingle even though it's not linked in the front page. ^^ | ||
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