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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 30 2012 00:59 GMT
#221
I agree with my fellow co-worker. It is a pity that plants need our help or otherwise they would die.
Since there is a lot of us working together here, we must absolutely refrain from saying too much.
I shall observe you carefully.
Have a nice day.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
June 30 2012 01:03 GMT
#222
I want to start out discussing newbies. How are we as a town going to deal with players that are not as strong (as we do have a couple in the game)? Personally I think that these players need to be examined for the intent of their posts more than the evidence that they provide. Newbies still need to figure out what types of evidence are valid for examining a person, and we need to look at whether they are trying to draw out info from nothing or if there was actually a scummy read behind it. In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town. I want everyone to take this in mind as we deal with newbies.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 30 2012 01:05 GMT
#223
I am pleased to know that my labourer friends are sensitive to problems of the flora. I find myself constantly gardening everywhere and that makes people happy.
It is important to note we're searching for suspicious people with funny looks. It is not the usual job.
Good luck!
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
June 30 2012 01:06 GMT
#224
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
June 30 2012 01:07 GMT
#225
On June 30 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't worry everybody I'm tooooooooooooooooooown!!!!!!!

And I'm also horribly unafraid, and incredibly willing to post, share reads and FIND EFFING SCUM!

Just so we're on the same D1 page, I'm in favor of lurker lynches if we lack a scummy candidate, but my preference is to lynch scum every time. So let's just focus on finding scum, and hopefully we won't HAVE any lurkers to even worry about! Yeah? YEAH!!!

WOOOOOOOO FOR TOWN!!!


Lynching a lurker should be a D1 only policy. Otherwise we're playing too much into the hands of mafia in terms of odds.


Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 30 2012 01:07 GMT
#226
BKE, that sounded like a radio-show call-in.

"Yeah, I've got this FRIEND, okay? NOT ME, IT'S A FRIEND! Anyway..."

lol

For my part, I'm going to be treating new players the same way I'd be treating anyone else - I'm going to examine their posts, address any concerns I have with their reasoning/logic, and draw a conclusion about their intentions based on how/if they answer. Obviously it's going to be harder than discerning the intentions of people who "should know better" or whatever, but that's all we can really do.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 30 2012 01:09 GMT
#227
On June 30 2012 10:03 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I want to start out discussing newbies. How are we as a town going to deal with players that are not as strong (as we do have a couple in the game)? Personally I think that these players need to be examined for the intent of their posts more than the evidence that they provide. Newbies still need to figure out what types of evidence are valid for examining a person, and we need to look at whether they are trying to draw out info from nothing or if there was actually a scummy read behind it. In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town. I want everyone to take this in mind as we deal with newbies.

So you suggest that we identify a group of players and then hold them to a lower standard than we would for a typical player?

Are you aware of how low those standards are already?

In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town

Can you give specific examples?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 30 2012 01:09 GMT
#228
Fixed that one for ya

On June 30 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
BKE, that sounded like a radio-show call-in.

"Yeah, I've got this FRIEND, okay? NOT ME, IT'S A FRIEND! Anyway..."

lol

For my part, I'm going to be treating new players the same way I'd be treating anyone else - I'm going to tunnel them hard until they shoot me in the face. Obviously it's going to be harder than discerning the intentions of people who "should know better" or whatever, but that's all we can really do.

Fe fi fo fum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 30 2012 01:10 GMT
#229
MARV ISN'T A NEWB YOU TAKE THAT SHIT BACK!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
mKmKmK
Profile Joined June 2012
9 Posts
June 30 2012 01:11 GMT
#230
On June 30 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't worry everybody I'm tooooooooooooooooooown!!!!!!!

And I'm also horribly unafraid, and incredibly willing to post, share reads and FIND EFFING SCUM!

Just so we're on the same D1 page, I'm in favor of lurker lynches if we lack a scummy candidate, but my preference is to lynch scum every time. So let's just focus on finding scum, and hopefully we won't HAVE any lurkers to even worry about! Yeah? YEAH!!!

WOOOOOOOO FOR TOWN!!!

Your enthusiasm is inspiring.
This is actually my first game of TL Mafia, so im pretty psyched, and will most likely make really make arguments, so please bear with me!
As a fellow townie I hope that we can all work as a team to find the scum, and lynch them!
Until they all die!

YEAH!
mKmKmK
Profile Joined June 2012
9 Posts
June 30 2012 01:12 GMT
#231
On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.

vague post is vague...
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
June 30 2012 01:13 GMT
#232
On June 30 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
BKE, that sounded like a radio-show call-in.

"Yeah, I've got this FRIEND, okay? NOT ME, IT'S A FRIEND! Anyway..."

lol

For my part, I'm going to be treating new players the same way I'd be treating anyone else - I'm going to examine their posts, address any concerns I have with their reasoning/logic, and draw a conclusion about their intentions based on how/if they answer. Obviously it's going to be harder than discerning the intentions of people who "should know better" or whatever, but that's all we can really do.


You still think I'm a newbie

@Kurumi I know spam is bad, but we should put as many posts as we need to prove our point. You dont need to go shooting down conversation, by suggesting a minimal post policy. Just bringing up the idea starts off on a "maybe I should post until I have more stuff" attitude.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 30 2012 01:16 GMT
#233
On June 30 2012 10:13 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
BKE, that sounded like a radio-show call-in.

"Yeah, I've got this FRIEND, okay? NOT ME, IT'S A FRIEND! Anyway..."

lol

For my part, I'm going to be treating new players the same way I'd be treating anyone else - I'm going to examine their posts, address any concerns I have with their reasoning/logic, and draw a conclusion about their intentions based on how/if they answer. Obviously it's going to be harder than discerning the intentions of people who "should know better" or whatever, but that's all we can really do.


You still think I'm a newbie

@Kurumi I know spam is bad, but we should put as many posts as we need to prove our point. You dont need to go shooting down conversation, by suggesting a minimal post policy. Just bringing up the idea starts off on a "maybe I should post until I have more stuff" attitude.


No way dude, I was saying your post made it sound like you do.

Anyway, Kurumi is right. This thread is going to get out of hand fast. In fact, Wiggles has a house rule regarding spam and specifically requested that we try and consolidate our thoughts as much as possible.

That being said, I have like 50% of the posts now, so don't take your example from me...but he's right, we need to try and consolidate our posts whenever necessary.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 30 2012 01:18 GMT
#234
On June 30 2012 10:13 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
BKE, that sounded like a radio-show call-in.

"Yeah, I've got this FRIEND, okay? NOT ME, IT'S A FRIEND! Anyway..."

lol

For my part, I'm going to be treating new players the same way I'd be treating anyone else - I'm going to examine their posts, address any concerns I have with their reasoning/logic, and draw a conclusion about their intentions based on how/if they answer. Obviously it's going to be harder than discerning the intentions of people who "should know better" or whatever, but that's all we can really do.


You still think I'm a newbie

@Kurumi I know spam is bad, but we should put as many posts as we need to prove our point. You dont need to go shooting down conversation, by suggesting a minimal post policy. Just bringing up the idea starts off on a "maybe I should post until I have more stuff" attitude.

@Mr "i am not a newbie because i have played like a dick by ninja voting with scum as town"
i asked you questions
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 30 2012 01:21 GMT
#235
Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned.
ATOBTTR
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
June 30 2012 01:27 GMT
#236
On June 30 2012 10:09 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 10:03 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I want to start out discussing newbies. How are we as a town going to deal with players that are not as strong (as we do have a couple in the game)? Personally I think that these players need to be examined for the intent of their posts more than the evidence that they provide. Newbies still need to figure out what types of evidence are valid for examining a person, and we need to look at whether they are trying to draw out info from nothing or if there was actually a scummy read behind it. In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town. I want everyone to take this in mind as we deal with newbies.

So you suggest that we identify a group of players and then hold them to a lower standard than we would for a typical player?

Are you aware of how low those standards are already?

Show nested quote +
In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town

Can you give specific examples?


Ottox in 53# Mafia. He was overwhelmed as a newbie and we tunneled on him too hard. Im suggesting more that the intent of the posts of these players is a more accurate representation of their alignment. Different standard.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
June 30 2012 01:30 GMT
#237
On June 30 2012 10:21 s0Lstice wrote:
Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned.


Saying that this is your 5th time in a row being town-aligned has the undercurrent of convincing us you are town in this game, and you dodge posting responsibility by it being a Friday. This is a scummy post to start out with.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 30 2012 01:39 GMT
#238
Waitwaitwait.

LMAO

Okay, hold up. First of all, My very first post opened with "Hi I'm town". Not to mention the fact that I just explained why loads of posting is going to be detrimental for town (which could be construed as 'dodging posting responsibility').

Now, s0Lstice is relatively new, and you're the one who posted

On June 30 2012 10:03 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I want to start out discussing newbies. How are we as a town going to deal with players that are not as strong (as we do have a couple in the game)? Personally I think that these players need to be examined for the intent of their posts more than the evidence that they provide. Newbies still need to figure out what types of evidence are valid for examining a person, and we need to look at whether they are trying to draw out info from nothing or if there was actually a scummy read behind it. In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town. I want everyone to take this in mind as we deal with newbies.


.......I'm kinda having a hard time accepting that you don't have an agenda considering all these factors.

FoS: BKE

You better watch your P's and Q's buster. You're now on my radar and trust me...no one likes being there.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 30 2012 01:50 GMT
#239
People I don't want in LYLO with me:

  • Mattchew
  • Bill Murray
  • VE


I vote we start this game off by lynching one of them, because getting a solid read on any one of them is rather difficult.

This list has been generated based on my experience with them in previous games, which means at worst, we've got a 22% chance of hitting scum. And if not, I don't want them in my town at lylo anyways.

Who's with me?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 30 2012 01:53 GMT
#240
No one ghost.

And I'm going to be obvTown before the day is through, so you're going to be eating those words...if you're not too busy CHOKING ON A NOOSE!!!!

....
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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